The same happened to me.
That particular subreddit is a shithole country for top reds.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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The same happened to me.
That particular subreddit is a shithole country for top reds.
"Without it theyd not laid a proper glove on us" was your response to Pocco.
It's 2.72, but it all depends on which model you use.
Because it wouldn't have suited your ten Hag agenda to point it out then, but you take issue with Burnley's xG being inflated now. That's called hypocrisy.
I doubt anyone disputes that. It's 19th place Burnley at home. The fact is that ten Hag has consistently failed to get the attack to play well/convert chances consistently. He's been heavily relying on Bruno to score this month. But at least Antony repaid him with a goal after snubbing Amad again. A small win for ten Hag.
It wasn't a good performance though. Just not terrible. We had less of the ball at home and Burnley regularly had shots inside our box. 10 overall.
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Also add in that Coventry got their penalty against us for AWB handball in exact same circumstances that we did not get a penalty for the Antony cross.
Who are those great coaches?
Can't get mmuch worse so no I don't think it's naive at all. It's naive hanging on to a manager that has proven to not being good enough. At all.
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Yeah a proper glove. We were being lightly jabbed by a poor opponent.
I have no Ten Hag agenda im pointing out how Manchester United are playing irrespective of the manager. I was the same under Ole, Jose, LVG and Moyes. You don’t have to be a fan of a manger (which would be a weird thing to be) to acknowledge what is or isn’t true.
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66% of people in the poll above would sack ETH before the cup final?! That's crazy.
Irrelevent of whether you think he should go or not in the summer, he's gotten us to that final (the third in 2 years) and put everything he's got into trying to turn things around under awful circumstances.
I genuinly would rather go into this final and give him a shot at it rather than sacking him now, looking like the club have zero class......and still losing anwyay.
Irrelevent of whether you think he should go or not in the summer, he's gotten us to that final (the third in 2 years) and put everything he's got into trying to turn things around under awful circumstances.
I genuinly would rather go into this final and give him a shot at it rather than sacking him now, looking like the club have zero class......and still losing anwyay.
Not really, you might get it now and again elsewhere but rightly or wrongly you ain't getting a penalty for that, if you give that then you have to give one when Maguire tussles with the Burnley player for the one-on-one that Onana saved
He’s become a pr puppet saying we’re playing well when we’re not, he’s going to sack himself at this rate. I don’t know what he thinks he’s doing but I’ll stand by a manager with a plan to get better and tactical knowledge, but I cannot accept that he says we’re playing good football, nope I’m out. Delusion is something I can’t endure sorry out
This is such a weird stance.
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So you a United fan, don’t think there is a foul on Garnacho? Ok.
Maguire doesn’t kick through a players leg in the box.
@Godfather why exactly is it weird to not care about Ten Hag’s future and trust INEOS to make a good decision one way or another?
I'm pretty sure he's hardly watched any PL football before he came here based on his signings and how naively he sets us up, let alone our 04/05 team. Ridiculous comments.
It's weird saying you'll back every decision INEOS will make to 100%. If they do some dumb shit then it should be pointed out. If they keep this idiot even after the summer for example. They are hanging on to him for too long already...
If Eric was dealt the cards that Sean Dyche has been this season, Netflix or Amazon would have made a documentary series inspired by the number of his excuses.
I don't have on rose tinted glasses, I'd be pretty pissed if that had been given the other end, and if I was a Burnley fan I'd be pissed if that was given and the Maguire one wasn't
Or the other way to look at it is that the decision to sack him shouldn’t be dependent on what happens in the final. It is obvious to anyone who has seen us this year that he has no future at United. If we are going to sack him anyways then why not give ourselves the best chance to win the final now. There is zero chance we win the final under him. I am sick of the class argument, this is top level sport & he gets paid millions to do a job. I can promise you that I can name at least 10 big clubs in Europe where he would have been sacked long back
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Agree to disagree then. If a defender kicks a player in the box and misses the ball it should be a penalty.
That was the fear immediately last season when he bought a tiny centre half, a winger who doesn't really beat players and the whole Wieghorst scenario.
Martinez initially allayed those fears, albeit even the most "football isn't about height and strength" deniers would admit you have to then have powerful players around him for every single set piece.
Mount was utterly baffling as a transfer. It was like he thought we needed a more mobile Eriksen, but it was clear in a tiny handful of games we were super open and it didn't work
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Why? Am I more qualified than the people they are appointing into sporting positions to make a better judgement with less information?
Im flattered you think so highly of me.
Van Gaal, Jose, Ten Hag. Moyes is a decent coach, but the players just weren’t having him. Ole, who knows? We only have his United stint to go by.
Yep and went completely against his earlier comments about Pep underestimating the physicality of the PL.
Im not sold on Martinez like others. I don't think he'll be first choice at CB under a new manager.
You hopefully are more than a sheep never questioning anything mate. It's OK to have opinions.
None of these were/are great coaches when we got them or after they left. To me it's important to make that point because there is a real gap between good/decent coaches and great ones.
So you only form an opinion on things you're qualified to talk about? Pretty strange but at least it affords you the safety of sitting on the fence. Bit of a cop out however as it doesn't take a genius to see we're badly coached and the tactics are a chaotic mess
It's as clear as day that ETH's problem is trying to high press without high press players in midfield and defense. Hence the huge spaces opening up. He's working towards the time when we do have those players by seeing who can adapt, since he can't just sack them all and he can't go back to counter attacking football. Of course it looks like shit half the time.
But any other manager who comes in will be in exactly the same situation because there is zero chance that the club will ditch the high press aspiration going forward. It's all about the transfers and the youth promotion now.
I still think there is a strong argument for seeing this phase through with him in charge. If he is to be sacked (which seems inevitable), the new coach needs to come in at a time when he has players who can fix the obvious problems. So summer at the earliest.
But any other manager who comes in will be in exactly the same situation because there is zero chance that the club will ditch the high press aspiration going forward. It's all about the transfers and the youth promotion now.
I still think there is a strong argument for seeing this phase through with him in charge. If he is to be sacked (which seems inevitable), the new coach needs to come in at a time when he has players who can fix the obvious problems. So summer at the earliest.
No thank you.
Waste another season / money with this guy.
Should got sacked long time ago.
When you look at Arsenal's centre back combo that's more what we need.
Two guys strong in the air in both boxes and a great mixture of pace and strength.
Our lot obviously have some attributes, but not enough individually or as a pair.
So he has finally gone full speed in the self preservation mode.
Talking down past teams which were by far superior to any team he is capable to build and labelling our attacking play as entertaining
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I would have no sympathy for him if he lost his job before the cup final. My respect and perception of him has gone down so much in the last 6 months. All he has come out with is excuses and false statements like this one. He is lucky that Ineos could only come on board late into the season, else he would have not survived this season.
Talking down past teams which were by far superior to any team he is capable to build and labelling our attacking play as entertaining
.I would have no sympathy for him if he lost his job before the cup final. My respect and perception of him has gone down so much in the last 6 months. All he has come out with is excuses and false statements like this one. He is lucky that Ineos could only come on board late into the season, else he would have not survived this season.
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But 'someone' tickled me. Just a random kablam dissuading someone else.
If I didn't make that change, people who didn't see the match might have thought Onana was swinging for Ten Hag
Agree. It would make a big difference having such a pair to build around. Set piece can goals make a big difference too. The only threat we have is Maguire.
Alright, they’re good coaches. They all underperformed at United though.
We don't succeed because we are a fecking charity club. And people who think like you do don't really help
Most scary thing is that we are right on course to end up in the Conference League next season. I would expect us to finish 7th. Horrible.
Less possession and less passes at home to Burnley.
The sooner this absolute incompetent clown leaves the better.
The sooner this absolute incompetent clown leaves the better.
With Villa’s likely win it will be mathematically impossible for us to finish in the top 4. Is that the trigger? Personally not holding my breath.
Less possession is less passes.
The high press is just a small part of it. When we have the ball the next coach has to coach us to keep it better. The way we set up in possession isn't good either and lends itself entirely to transition football. If you press high well, and keep possession well, then you can get away without pace in midfield and defence. Look at City, they have CBs and midfielders that aren't blessed with pace but it barely gets mentioned because they don't make it a problem.
More evidence to my theory that a substantial number of United fans just want to hold on to a childish notion that we’re not like other clubs. Alongside the "back your manager" speech, these things are at the root of why so many fans have this over-zealous commitment to under-performing managers. Well, we're like other clubs, we're just really bad at it.
"he's put everything he's going into trying to turn things around".
fecking hell, what the feck happened to us
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