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Fallen Muppet. Lest we never forget
Whilst I do agree with that, I think he's a pretty good source still.Na. Ducker has had it in for him this season.
Don’t believe it.
Whilst I do agree with that, I think he's a pretty good source still.Na. Ducker has had it in for him this season.
Don’t believe it.
Is Casemiro a starter?You named 3 starters. If you want to pretend I'm talking about first team squad go ahead.
He's gone.
First choice under a new manager next season? Highly doubtful.Is Casemiro a starter?
Correct but it says "Jim Ratcliffe's camp" meaning it's not necessarily him. Could be Brailsford, Blanc etc.This is up there with the bullshit about Ratcliffe liking players - it won’t be his decision and if it is then we’re fecked. Barrada and Ashworth will be deciding signings and who the manager is.
No. Those are the words of Berrada.I’m not misinterpreting anything. To be a success the suggestion is to give players 2 seasons then move on.
No.You don’t think any of the team is currently good enough so is your current view is pretty much all of them need to be cleared out for that success?
Because you specifically said who is good enough to challenge for titles.If so how are we expecting with injuries to significantly higher than 6th?
All from a Scout too.Which players have been here 2 years min and are good enough for us to challenge for titles?
At the moment he would be. That's 4.First choice under a new manager next season? Highly doubtful.
. . .Then what exactly is your point? You’re mentioning player fees in the Ten Hag thread?
Totally missed the point but no surprise from you in this thread.
It would be nice to debate what is said rather than ‘Ten Hag doesn’t set the price’ which hasn’t been.
Been down this road with you in here before Starr. Move on.
Yeah, it's Ducker who's the problem here...Na. Ducker has had it in for him this season.
Don’t believe it.
It won't be his decision solely but at the end of the day, if you're paying the bills and you don't like the guy running things, you're going to insist he goes. Unless the guys Ratcliffe has put in place at the club fight for Ten Hag and put themselves on the chopping block Ten Hag will be gone if Ratcliffe wants him gone.This is up there with the bullshit about Ratcliffe liking players - it won’t be his decision and if it is then we’re fecked. Barrada and Ashworth will be deciding signings and who the manager is.
The guy left it ages ago.That is a such a hugely disingenuous comment that I wonder whether you are aware you have left the ground of arguing in good faith.
Moyes was in the position of a big "M" manager, as we still had the notion of a SAF-style figure at the helm of the club who has authority over everything. He was doing/overseeing the transfers himself, we had no DoF, and he was famous for being painfully meticulous, read "slow", when deciding on transfers.
He came from Everton so he was the one who knew best when Fellaini's clause would be active and when it would be expired, to put the blame of that baffling story on the club in order to absolve the manager is just ridiculous.
Similarly, Moyes would have been involved in the Fabregas pursuit and he would/should have known just as well as anyone else at the club about the plausibility, or lack thereof, of a Fabregas transfer.
The story with Kroos is that Moyes had actually put the transfer in place when he was sacked, and with LvG the next MANAGER, not the club!, threw a spanner in the works.
To use these example in a narrative how our club is hindering the work of managers is about as wrong as you can be.
The post you replied to clearly wasn't referring to at the moment. So you agreed.At the moment he would be. That's 4.
Hypothetically if he's still here next season he starts...The post you replied to clearly wasn't referring to at the moment. So you agreed.
Glad to see this BS being called out.The post you replied to clearly wasn't referring to at the moment. So you agreed.
So glad.Glad to see this BS being called out.
So why even bring Berrada up if nothing he says is relevant to our current predicament? You’re just plucking out his quotes for nobody to then comment or discuss them in relation to our squad? So why mention it at all?No. Those are the words of Berrada.
See misinterpretation. No.1.
No.
You asked who is good enough to challenge for titles.
I replied I can’t definitively say any are. [good enough to challenge for a title]
See misinterpretation. No.2.
Because you specifically said who is good enough to challenge for titles.
Now had you asked me is this squad good enough to finish 4th, I’d say yes.
I’m not even getting into an injuries back & forth. We don’t play Citeh every week & if you go through lineups for both teams in some of our worst losses this season the opposition have their own absences.
See misinterpretation. No.3.
The Caf can be a disingenuous place at times but feck me.
All from a Scout too.
So you’re going to randomly drop a comment from Berrada, then refuse to explain why and moan that someone isn’t quite sure of the point your making despite them asking for your clarity.. . .
Yes.How long is Ten Hag's contract? Has he another season to run? Might make sense to see how he performs under a better infrastructure before hitting the panic button?
How long is Ten Hag's contract? Has he another season to run? Might make sense to see how he performs under a better infrastructure before hitting the panic button?
Why not get a better manager under a better infrastructure?How long is Ten Hag's contract? Has he another season to run? Might make sense to see how he performs under a better infrastructure before hitting the panic button?
Like?Why not get a better manager under a better infrastructure?
I’m not reading that.So why even bring Berrada up if nothing he says is relevant to our current predicament? You’re just plucking out his quotes for nobody to then comment or discuss them in relation to our squad? So why mention it at all?
What you probably don’t like here is that our squad has not experienced that level of clinical building and turnover of players. I hope we do get that soon.
Without that level it means that while our best XI or so players should be capable of top 4 the injuries we’ve suffered has meant we’re playing the kind of player who are mid-Europa league level and in some cases worse on a regular basis.
We don’t need to get into a back and forth on injuries you just need to accept the fact they’ve had a significant impact on our season and that to deny or downplay that is remarkably disingenuous.
If they aren’t good enough to challenge for a title then at some point all of them need to go? Or at least the majority correct?
Debate the post not the poster, what does me being a scout have to do with anything?
So you’re going to randomly drop a comment from Berrada, then refuse to explain why and moan that someone isn’t quite sure of the point your making despite them asking for your clarity.
Been down this road with you in here before Starr. Move on.
He has another year. We have to be realistic that this great new structure, which may well turn out to be shite, won't be much use for next season anyway as Berrada won't be in place until June and Ashworth probably won't be until after the summer while more appointments are still to be made, the best run clubs will already have a lot of their plans in place for the summer so we're going to be behind the curve.How long is Ten Hag's contract? Has he another season to run? Might make sense to see how he performs under a better infrastructure before hitting the panic button?
The argument equivalent of the fingers in ears.I’m not reading that.
What would that 'better infrastructure' mean for the day to day business of the manager at the start of next season? What effect would it have on Ten Hag's team selections, tactical approach, substitutions, man management?How long is Ten Hag's contract? Has he another season to run? Might make sense to see how he performs under a better infrastructure before hitting the panic button?
Glad to see this BS being called out.The argument equivalent of the fingers in ears.
You’re not arguing in good faith here.
He seems to like De Zerbi.Like?
Aye, the poster has form for that.The argument equivalent of the fingers in ears.
You’re not arguing in good faith here.
AnyoneLike?
Well done on totally dodging the questionAnyone
There is a school of thought that it wouldn't.If Ten Hag stays, things on the pitch will be exactly like they are now. If people are content with how things are on the pitch, it makes sense to keep Ten Hag.
Care to adress the previous part of my post you quote?There is a school of thought that it wouldn't.
What would that 'better infrastructure' mean for the day to day business of the manager at the start of next season? What effect would it have on Ten Hag's team selections, tactical approach, substitutions, man management?
Would one summer window under a new board transform the squad so much that we should expect to see something substantially different in next season's actual football games under the guidance of the same manager who is in charge right now?
If Ten Hag stays, things on the pitch will be exactly like they are now. If people are content with how things are on the pitch, it makes sense to keep Ten Hag.
Already been through it yesterday that the average PL manager would find it hard to have us playing worse football this season.Well done on totally dodging the question
Presumably that also extends to more accountability for underperforming managers and coaches?Well one thing I think can immediately be improved under a better infrastructure is more accountability for under performing players.
You'd be happy with Southgate then I presume?Already been through it yesterday that it would be hard to have us playing worse football this season.
Ten Hag's done nothing to show he deserves a go under a better structure that our previous sacked managers wouldn't deserve before him.