Our worst permanent manager post Fergie.
Ole, Carrick and McKenna were leagues above him.
Ole, Carrick and McKenna were leagues above him.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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EtH has no plan of attack. It's been obvious for some time now. Trying to score goals by having Bruno pull something out of thin air isn't sustainable. I don't think we created one good chance in the second half. Why he continues playing McT as far forward against a packed defense is beyond me.
But his biggest mistake has to be recruitment. Liverpool bought Mac Allister, Endo and Szoboslai after their midfield troubles last season. We bought Mount(perennially injured) and Amrabat(subpar) on loan. It's a combination of people above EtH being inept and him being unable to spot talent.
I honestly don't know if EtH with a better structure would solve our problems or if EtH is that inept. But they both need to change.
But his biggest mistake has to be recruitment. Liverpool bought Mac Allister, Endo and Szoboslai after their midfield troubles last season. We bought Mount(perennially injured) and Amrabat(subpar) on loan. It's a combination of people above EtH being inept and him being unable to spot talent.
I honestly don't know if EtH with a better structure would solve our problems or if EtH is that inept. But they both need to change.
As I understand it, Zidane wants the France NT job but that’s not happening any time soon. Any chance we can talk him into this job on an interim basis? Probably not, it might be worth asking anyway. If he can sort this shit out, he would add a new notch to his illustrious belt.
And they'd have been correct. Which is exactly why you'd hire Sean Dyche.
Have to wait and see. They made all these appointments in the past 24 months and they were pointless. Whats going to differ?
Normally you would say no United manager could survive that, but the club is adrift, rudderless and dysfunctional. It isn’t all the manager’s fault, as the entire hierarchy is failing, but of course we have to acknowledge that things are getting worse on the pitch. I thought ETH did an outstanding job last season and overachieved. This season he is grossly underachieving; it’s all fallen apart, sadly. I really wanted us to kick on this season, but this can’t continue much longer. The sad thing is I think any successor, no matter who it is, will be doomed to the same fate, such is the state of the club.
This…it is as frustrating as feck that his first opportunity after a solid midfield performance is to revert back to Bruno and McT for zero control.
Also, I’m not particularly in the ETH out camp but for so many of our players to be out of form/not be able to hit a barn door is suspicious at best…at what point do we look at the manager and say he’s got to do better so that they can do better. I appreciate he’s not the one missing good chances but I don’t recall a United team in recent times being so toothless…
Possibly but I seem to recall him being a pretty popular appointment on here
Can we sack him now ? @VP89
Nothing apart from him being clearly unable to read the game naturally and react to other manager's tactical changes.
He's robotic. If it ain't in the script, he hasn't got a clue.
Missing out on the new champions league format is fecking annoying. Maybe if we sack him now we might make 5th with an interim?
Zidane is frankly the only option. Players will show for him. Nobody of note will sign for Potter...
Mate what?
we didn’t create a single chance in the 2nd half. We can’t create a decent attack if our lives depended on it. Please tell me who from the forward line he is missing with these injuries that will all of a sudden transform our attacking play?
lose is one thing, lose with 0 hope of even getting a draw is a whole other. Look at Newcastle for how an injury ravaged squad can still put up a hell of a fight in most games.
The same McKenna who has Ipswich sitting comfortably at 2nd place in Championship the next year after getting them promoted from League one.
Whats the matter with you, what a shit reply...
What has happened to one touch football, full backs overlapping wingers to create space for crosses and to progressive foot all where passing needs to be focused forward not aide ways? We have become so slow over the years, so boring, so predictable and easy to play against.
Zidane is not coming to work for the Glazers 
Hand up, he was the first appointment post Fergie I was genuinely thrilled about, and all evidence pointed to it being the right decision. And then… he was given full control over recruitment and allowed to “play a different way to how he played at Ajax” which is the most absurd shit I’ve ever seen from a manager.
My biggest tactical gripe
Im in the same camp. Nobody else is an option to me.
Maybe that EtH is not a bad manager per se, but the combination of our squad and him, that’s the problem. He may eventually be a success somewhere else. But at this moment in time something has to give.
We have tried to do this a few times especially when Martinez was fit earlier in the season
Nobody will work for the GlazersZidane is not coming to work for the Glazers
yes, to prove that the players woudn't look as useless under competent manager.
None of his previous teams player how Ajax played. We also dont have the players to play how Ajax played. He also was NOT given full control over recruitment
I don’t get why he reverts when you consider the profile of our midfield
Yeah but that's fine. I was pleased we appointed him but it hasn't worked out...so what?
We're not going to get everything right as a club, our problem has been a) we get plenty wrong b) we compound those bad decisions by clinging on to them.
Failing is fine, but you have to fail fast
Out of CL and Europe
Out of League Cup
8th in PL with -5 goal difference
We've had many injuries this season and that has troubled ten Hag no doubt but continue like this and it could actually be worse than 21/22 and 13/14 seasons.
Out of League Cup
8th in PL with -5 goal difference
We've had many injuries this season and that has troubled ten Hag no doubt but continue like this and it could actually be worse than 21/22 and 13/14 seasons.
He played Mainoo so surely not
I said a month ago at what point do you get rid of this fraud?
10 defeats, 11, 12 or 13 because now this complete fraud has lost 13 and he’s won 11 drawing 1 for me has to go tonight.
The team is bereft of ideas has no elite penetration, players like Garnaucho, Pellistri and Mainoo all show promise but they should be out on loan or at best eased in gently to the first team.
Here we sit 8th, out of the carabo cup, out of Europe and negative 5 goal difference, why is this even a debate. I’m sure ETH will turn up at Dortmund but he won’t win the Bunderliga year in year out, I doubt he’ll ever win it, he found is level in Dutch Football and needs to be dismissed before Xmas.
We don’t score goals we don’t win games convincingly, but what we do with this Fraud is never play attractive football and lose 50% of our games, give him the full season and 38 games in the PL equals 11 more defeats and 19 defeats overall that’s what will happen if we keep Eric the Fraud !
10 defeats, 11, 12 or 13 because now this complete fraud has lost 13 and he’s won 11 drawing 1 for me has to go tonight.
The team is bereft of ideas has no elite penetration, players like Garnaucho, Pellistri and Mainoo all show promise but they should be out on loan or at best eased in gently to the first team.
Here we sit 8th, out of the carabo cup, out of Europe and negative 5 goal difference, why is this even a debate. I’m sure ETH will turn up at Dortmund but he won’t win the Bunderliga year in year out, I doubt he’ll ever win it, he found is level in Dutch Football and needs to be dismissed before Xmas.
We don’t score goals we don’t win games convincingly, but what we do with this Fraud is never play attractive football and lose 50% of our games, give him the full season and 38 games in the PL equals 11 more defeats and 19 defeats overall that’s what will happen if we keep Eric the Fraud !
Those mentioning Zidane, why would he even consider this shit show?
Let’s count. That starting 11 out there had Bruno, AWB, Shaw, McT from the prev managers. Just 4 out of 11 players, yet it is not his team yet? Do we need him to have a brand new squad of 30 players before he can implement a style of attacking play?
He is not the only problem, but he is one of the biggest problem out there for us. Anyone denying that or pointing out excuses for him just refuses to see the obvious.
He was popular but that was because of his work at Ajax.
He decided to throw all of that into the gutter and play the "Utd way".
Every manager spends a fortune and the team gets progressively worse, it’s bizarre. Other teams would love to have our spending power, we’ve just wasted a decade overpaying going nowhere. Ten Haag has a lot to answer for, spent 85m and 72m on Antony and Hjolund and they can’t even muster a shot on target between them.
Yes, sacking him will make all our stupid players smart, Scott McTominay able to trap a ball, and all our injured players fit again.
We field a mid-table eleven, we get a mid-table performance. It's that simple.
This
I can understand people who want him out but I'd love to see how we'd fare with an attack that can score/create from nothing.
Some would argue that they are not doing it because of a lack of tactics, but we got into so many good positions today and did pretty much feck all with it.
Some would argue that they are not doing it because of a lack of tactics, but we got into so many good positions today and did pretty much feck all with it.
We're further away from being a regular top 4 side than when Ole was sacked. The squad has been ruined and the money has dried up.
He wouldn't. It's been said constantly from his camp that he wouldn't. It's annoying that it keeps getting brought up
Yeah it's a bit annoying how we had many moments of bodies in the box and a cut back or some quality required and the players just fecked it.
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