Can’t deny he’s a big reason for the squad being shit, pretty much all of his signings apart from Martinez are currently looking like big wastes of money.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Can he be sacked?
Feels like he has insulated himself from the sack by signing so many of his own players.
Which manager is going to want to come and take a squad with more Eredivisie experience than title challenging experience?
Feels like he has insulated himself from the sack by signing so many of his own players.
Which manager is going to want to come and take a squad with more Eredivisie experience than title challenging experience?
Not his fault when Dalot goes to sleep. I mean wtf is that defending for the first goal. He literally has just one job and he looks at Almiron and decides nah feck it, I’ll just jog back.
I feel for Eth today.
I feel for Eth today.
Feels like the beginning of the end for him at the club now. The cycle continues.
Most of them got sacked after getting knocked out early in League Cup. Van Gaal in 2015/16, Mourinho in 2018/19 and Ole in 2021/22. All 3 at Old Trafford as well. Know it doesn't mean much but it's another pattern and cycle with United and managers.
And who also looked good and looked like they knew what they were doing from the offset when they joined City and Pool.
Arteta is neither of those things and has been at arsenal 4 years. Turned them around after being given time.
And Dutch league players.
He has lost the dressing room.
He is done here. Copenhagen next week will be his last game.
He is done here. Copenhagen next week will be his last game.
I know Liverpool fans who wanted Klopp sacked and couldnt see any sign of his supposed ‘heavy metal’ football after finishing 8th. Pep was nowhere near a title in his first year.
Whats the excuse for not being able to give Newcastle reserves a game at home?
There are still a good too many that have been allowed to gather new contract after new contract and are a common denominator in a few managers finding players giving up on them.
You can’t expect different results from the same guys over a long period of time. They’ve shown they’re not capable of it.
We’ve built a squad over a period of years that’s is comically bad. Just not good enough. That’s on the clubs hierarchy as it’s spanned several managers.
This football is shite though and I don’t see him lasting. And as much as I despair at another round of the the same shite cycle, I don’t think I can argue too much about it happening.
If he doesn't sling Dalot at HT after that shite, then he deserves to get sacked in the morning. I'm being deliberately OTT, but point stands.
Liverpool were playing brilliant football soon after Klopp took over, they just had a shite defense and leaked goals. They just kept getting better once he made some signings. City the same
There is literally no positives to Ten Hag. We don't resemble a team at all. Everything is broken, and his signings are shocking
New manager bounce
Our players are definitely better than what he has them playing. That is a simple fact.
Yes, we have been absolutely woeful in the last few matches and the season as a whole has been shocking. That being said, I don't think ETH can be deemed a charlatan or anything of the sort as it ignores context and his very recent managerial history. What I will say is that he absolutely lacks courage.
This didn’t start with ETH. We still have Mourinho signings. a Solskjær signing still starting games for us. What’s the point in trying to play a certain style when you have halve of the players that can execute it and the other halve that can’t.
He inherited a shit squad, has spent loads of money and it’s still shit.
Last 37 games including this one and our GD is 0
And people have the shame to say Pep/Klopp had periods like this too
This is horrific
And people have the shame to say Pep/Klopp had periods like this too
This is horrific
15th game of the season and this will be the 8th loss.
What factors ?
Glazers gave him ton of money. No one told him to splash 60m on Mount and 70m on Antony. They overpaid to please him.
Players ? These players were the ones who finished 3rd with him and won that glorious League Cup people keep praising him for last season. Now they're the problem ? So basically a win is thanks to the manager and the loss is thanks to players.
Injuries ? The nature of our injuries scream lack of fitness due to the awful preparation for the season which, guess what, is his job.
Bad luck ? Bad luck might make you lose one or two matches but not be utterly shit every single game against any opposition even relegation fodders.
He's absolutely one of the biggest reason for our awful season.
Yeah he is the main reason for it being shit. 400m pounds this man was allowed to waste.
This was proved last season. Signed a few more players and got worse
But his fault for selecting such a weak midfield.
feel badly for EtH b/c the players dont look like they give a flying feck
This is largely a Ten Hag squad now - and not the same collection of bums that got rid of 3 of 4 managers before, though some are still around. My point remains
I’m not the one saying he should be sacked. Who would we even replace him with?Zidanehe wouldn't touch the job
This, so tired of having to explain it over and over.
Can anyone who knows more about football than me, and that's a lot of you, tell me how Erik has gone from a season that was at the very least satisfactory (third and a cup, could we realistically have wished for better?) to this mess? We were by no means perfect but the basics were there more often than not last year and we hopeful of building this year, now we're all over the place from a tactical perspective and if anything worse than that from an attitude/application standpoint. How has it got so bad that he just looks to be waiting for the sack, as nothing he tries is making any positive difference whatsoever?
Don't think he's close to being fired even if we lose tonight. If in two months it's still this bad and Sir Jim has come in, then maybe.
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He’s had over a year to coach these players, they are professional international footballers. Even the players he’s brought in look shit. Blaming the odd player he’s left over with is no excuse.
It's got nothing to do with players 'not being arsed'. You are being conned by clueless pundits who revert to saying that because they're clueless and emotional.
Our problems here are tactical. We're a total, utter shambles - and that's down to one person, and clue, it isn't Joel Glazer!
He signed the wrong players and we haven't moved forward while the teams around us have. We used to have SAF who did both recruitment and coaching. Ten Hag is only a coach, not a DOF/Coach hybrid like SAF. If he was the dominant voice in identifying targets, that's the simplest explanation for why we got it wrong (and have been getting it wrong since SAF left).
I've backed him but this is beginning to feel terminal.
Players have downed tools, same as the last 3 managers. Matter of when not if he is gone.
Can't wait to see them play their socks off for the new boss for the rest of this year and then decide they hate him too at some point in 1-2 years.
Becoming more predictable than the old RAWK boom bust cycle.
Can't wait to see them play their socks off for the new boss for the rest of this year and then decide they hate him too at some point in 1-2 years.
Becoming more predictable than the old RAWK boom bust cycle.
Micky Grey on Talksport the other day said he is good friends with a United 1st team coach….
and after the city game he asked this coach what the dressing room was like after the city game. “ETH must have been going nuts, no?”
coach - “No. We aren’t allowed to shout at the players.”
no wonder we are so soft and passive.
and after the city game he asked this coach what the dressing room was like after the city game. “ETH must have been going nuts, no?”
coach - “No. We aren’t allowed to shout at the players.”
no wonder we are so soft and passive.
Dutch peo
Murtough must also leave of course, maybe our head scout also. We need people with experience from the big clubs in Europe.
Yup, groundhog day until we change our structures.
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