Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24

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Hojlund isn’t exactly peak RvN so our 30 goal wide player probably feels he can make make a contribution to offset things.
Our 30 goals in 1 season out of 8 winger plays/played like this with Ronaldo, Cavani, etc. It's the same nonsense every time.
 
They have controlled much of that game, and there is a difference between the chances we had and the one they scored. Beautifully constructed from back to front, leaving the striker open in the centre of the goal.

We are just charging and roaring, Brighton make the ball do the running for them, our players seem to have to carry it or our passes are longer than theirs to make progress.

We run like chickens without the ball and our players are incapable of doing any kind of efficient press.
Other than counters(give the ball to Rashford I mean) what can we do with the ball?
 
We still resemble a poorly coached team. Playing against Brighton only emphasises that. They can sell whoever and replace players at will and they continue to play exactly the same.
 
Pep Guardiola is my idol.

Being taught a lesson by the other coach who has had the same (slightly less even) time as him but has managed to get his team playing good football regularly.

This is such a bad false equivalence, I can't help but think it's deliberate. You can't possible believe they started on even footing? Brighton were already doing well and playing good football under Potter, we were a shambles with several ticking timebombs in the squad.
 
Hojlund isn’t exactly peak RvN so our 30 goal wide player probably feels he can make make a contribution to offset things.
Just did it again. He's Rashford before team and it's hurting us.
 
He's not a good enough manager. We're going absolutely nowhere under him.
 
It’s only 5 matches. And he won us the mighty League Cup last season. Leave him alone.
 
Could replace Ten Hag with LVG, Mourinho, or Solskjaer and there'd be no difference. More money wasted. More rubbish football
 
The club is in trouble

The manager has been backed nearly every signing is a former ETH player
 
Maybe we shouldn't give managers hundreds of millions of pounds and expect them to be de facto DOF and Chief Scout, just on the off chance that maybe they aren't the promised messiah and we have to start all over again?
 
He's making mistakes but I want him to stay.

Needs to play other players though and restrict Rashford's ego
 
The amount of abuse I got for criticising his transfers. Even receiving a warning as a result. I wonder what everyone makes of them now?
 
Pointless playing Hojlund with someone as greedy and unable to pass to his teammates as Rashford.

We can have prime R9 upfront but no one will pass to him, especially Mr Superhero.
I dont understand the lineup; Mctominay should not be on that pitch. A midfield with casimero, eriksen and mctominay??? really? Put the youngsters on and just go for it; we look really bad anyway. Hojuland was a good buy. He's positioning and pressing is really good.
 
We look badly coached which is the thing he was brought in to remedy.

If he can't make tough decisions then he needs to go, if you are happy enough to have Garnacho, Gore, Mejbri et al on the bench then you should be happy enough for them to start, feck off with this placating of St Rashford, McTominay and Bruno.

Grow a set or feck off.
 
He didn’t solve our biggest problem in the summer (goals and a proper 9 to score them). That will plague us all year and will probably see us struggle for another top 4 finish.
Looking that way. Not enough goals in the team and now it looks like the defence is a lot less solid. I wonder if not buying KMJ will haunt us, especially at that asking price, though obviously doesn't solve the lack of goals.
 
Maybe we shouldn't give managers hundreds of millions of pounds and expect them to be de facto DOF and Chief Scout, just on the off chance that maybe they aren't the promised messiah and we have to start all over again?
Nah, that is not the United way.

Step 1: Hire random manager.
Step 2: The club and the fanbase convince themselves that the manager is a great manager and give him absolute power, including in the transfers, no questions asked.
Step 3: Manager turns to be shit.
Step 4: Manager continues to be shit.
Step 5: Manager continues to be even more shit.
Step 6: Fire the manager.
Step 7: Go to step 1.
 
I thought he was meant to be a good coach. What coaching has he performed? We get outplayed against 90% of the teams in the league.
 
The amount of abuse I got for criticising his transfers. Even receiving a warning as a result. I wonder what everyone makes of them now?
Majority of his signings will be considered deadwood by the end of the season. Rinse and repeat with the next manager
 
I am losing patience with ETH. His signing is always injure or bad, he insist on formation that set us up of failure. Is it so hard?
 
Strange thing is I think he shows some signs of being a good manager, in the sense of the way he runs the club, makes decisions, talks the talk etc. Sancho, Maguire, Ronaldo situations and the run after the Brentford game being examples. However as an actual coach and tactician he doesn't seem to be up to much. Regularly gets outmanouvered by his opponents in the dugout and tries things that are clearly never going to work. The opposite of what we were expecting I think.
 
It’s doesn’t matter what manager we get nothing really changes until the Glazers go

This is the absolute truth. The reality is it's probably another promising manager down the drain, and the next one inheriting a mess because of dreadful recruitment. ETH should never be running things from that side, it's a downright disgrace to not have a DOF in place.
 
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Maybe we shouldn't give managers hundreds of millions of pounds and expect them to be de facto DOF and Chief Scout, just on the off chance that maybe they aren't the promised messiah and we have to start all over again?

I agree with this. I’m not sure how to make it work, as a new manager would always want their players and I’m not even advocating for ETH to be sacked. However, it just feels like a treacherous cycle of one manager getting rid of the past manager’s signings etc.
 
I said it at the end of last season, he will be out until December and he deserves it.

I get the ruthlessness of him, I get his stubborness but I do not get why he persists with the same shit tactics and lineups week in, week out.

I mean, after one and a half years you'd think he must concede here and there and actually adapt to the players he has. Think this is also obvious seeing players just not giving a feck after losing the ball, they just do not buy into his football idea and he should start asking himself some questions or he needs another 450 million to change half the squad again.
 
We've never been so bad at defending in the final third as we are now.

Most open team in the league.

Current trajectory we'll be rinsing and repeating with a new manager and the same owners.
 
If we do end up replacing him, the next manager needs to be a coach. Nothing less, nothing more - a cog that can easily be replaced when things go south. He can give recommendations on squad building and transfers, but should have zero authority in that department.
 
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