Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24

[The Mitcher]

Such a player considered good enough wasn't available so we got the next best thing

How do we know he is the next best thing?

 

[JuriM]

What happened to that young, black kid that played against arsenal?

Play him instead of mount and get a Bruno replacement that can actually keep the ball under pressure.

provided the kid is available of course

How to be Racist on Redcafe 123.

 

[Jev]

Such a player considered good enough wasn't available so we got the next best thing

Let's hope so. Think this may be a step too big for him, and the expectations aren't helping. He's almost supposed to be ETH's saviour at this point, he can scarcely survive another dud signing.

 

[The Mitcher]

How to be Racist on Redcafe 123.

How is it racist?

 

[My only Eric]

I know that this may be nitpicking but I will advise you to be weary with describing people like this on a forum.

I know it might be okay to describe people like this if you are among your mates but not on a global forum. This is not me saying you are being a racist at all, just advising you.

To your question, the kid is injured and his name is Mainoo. Anyways, we should not be relying on the kid if ETH has not been stubborn and gone to Mount who in most people's opinion, he was not the right profile of player we needed in that midfield.

thanks mate.

 

[m1tch]

I get that deja vu feeling again that the players haven't got their hearts in it again. Whether that's cause they don't like ETH's methods or decisions, or because of something controversial that the club is currently planning to do, either way you know there's massive character problems at United. It's not got better despite all the signings, it's probably a case of our most talented are our least dedicated to the team. They do enough to not get dropped, sold, get their contract renewals, but they have no intention of being at it consistently.

 

[Red in STL]

Let's hope so. Think this may be a step too big for him, and the expectations aren't helping. He's almost supposed to be ETH's saviour at this point, he can scarcely survive another dud signing.

TBH I'm not expecting him to bang in goals immediately, but being an actual striker should help the team tremendously

 

[Anustart89]

How to be Racist on Redcafe 123.

Hardly racist, is it?

 

[The Mitcher]

I get that deja vu feeling again that the players haven't got their hearts in it again. Whether that's cause they don't like ETH's methods or decisions, or because of something controversial that the club is currently planning to do, either way you know there's massive character problems at United. It's not got better despite all the signings, it's probably a case of our most talented are our least dedicated to the team. They do enough to not get dropped, sold, get their contract renewals, but they have no intention of being at it consistently.

I mean, they responded well to him after that 30km run, so ETH must have REALLY fecked up if he's lost the players already.

 

[Jericholyte2]

Sneak a 1-0? Fair enough, you could just say you only became a fan last season instead of talking rubbish.

Fair few signings made under Ole are more than worth what we paid. So far Erik has missed on Antony and Malacia and the jury is out on whether Mount is worth the money so he has hardly done any better. He has managed to spend almost 400M and failed to address some glaring needs. Like I said, I am not giving up on him yet but he needs to improve soon.

I’m a 30yr fan you condescending prick!

‘A fair few signings under Ole are more than worth what we paid’ - feckING NAME THEM (I’ll give you Bruno & Cavani)!

Here’s the list:
Maguire - £80m - now desperately trying to sell
AWB - £45m - was happy to sell this time last year
Dan James - moved on
Ighalo
VDB
Diallo
Pellestri
Telles
Cavani
Sancho
Varane
Ronaldo

 

[The Mitcher]

thanks mate.

The caf is an overly sensitive place.

 

[The Mitcher]

I’m a 30yr fan you condescending prick!

‘A fair few signings under Ole are more than worth what we paid’ - feckING NAME THEM (I’ll give you Bruno & Cavani)!

Here’s the list:
Maguire - £80m - now desperately trying to sell
AWB - £45m - was happy to sell this time last year
Dan James - moved on
Ighalo
VDB
Diallo
Pellestri
Telles
Cavani
Sancho
Varane
Ronaldo

Don't insult users or you'll get reported.

 

[DJ Jeff]

I know that this may be nitpicking but I will advise you to be weary with describing people like this on a forum.

I know it might be okay to describe people like this if you are among your mates but not on a global forum. This is not me saying you are being a racist at all, just advising you.

To your question, the kid is injured and his name is Mainoo. Anyways, we should not be relying on the kid if ETH has not been stubborn and gone to Mount who in most people's opinion, he was not the right profile of player we needed in that midfield.

Wtf are you talking about. He didn't know Mainoo's name, get over it. Nothing wrong with that description.

 

[hobbers]

It's pretty clear the club just can't find a manager who has decent decision making. Every single one has been an idiot.

nailed it

the only aspect of this that’s systemic is that the rubbish managerial appointments have been given bucket loads of money with no overarching strategy

that and the rewarding of rank mediocrity with big new contracts every 2 seasons

 

[kaku06]

What happened to that young, black kid that played against arsenal?

Play him instead of mount and get a Bruno replacement that can actually keep the ball under pressure.

provided the kid is available of course

Are you that lazy to look for his name? It only takes seconds to search google. Have some bloody manners. That’s how you describe someone especially a young player from the academy? It might not be racist but it’s a bit disrespectful and borderline insulting.

 

[The Mitcher]

Wtf are you talking about. He didn't know Mainoo's name, get over it. Nothing wrong with that description.

He's not offended, it's the majority of the overly sensitive users on here who will.

 

[Rightnr]

I know that this may be nitpicking but I will advise you to be weary with describing people like this on a forum.

I know it might be okay to describe people like this if you are among your mates but not on a global forum. This is not me saying you are being a racist at all, just advising you.

To your question, the kid is injured and his name is Mainoo. Anyways, we should not be relying on the kid if ETH has not been stubborn and gone to Mount who in most people's opinion, he was not the right profile of player we needed in that midfield.

What was he supposed to use? Please, tell us the criteria.

 

[The Mitcher]

Are you that lazy to look for his name? It only takes seconds to search google. Have some bloody manners. That’s how you describe someone especially a young player from the academy? It might not be racist but it’s incredibly disrespectful and borderline insulting.

It's not insulting to accuraty describe somebody.

 

[The Mitcher]

nailed it

the only aspect of this that’s systemic is that the rubbish managerial appointments have been given bucket loads of money with no overarching strategy

that and the rewarding of rank mediocrity with big new contracts every 2 seasons

The board and managers are to blame, but the herd like users on here who blindly support ten hag and individual players won't accept that.

 

[Cassidy]

Such a player considered good enough wasn't available so we got the next best thing

Ive said it plenty of times. If you include the Mount fee and wages. We could have probably signed Osimhen

 

[The Mitcher]

Ive said it plenty of times. If you include the Mount fee and wages. We could have probably signed Osimhen

Napoli were asking for 130 mil which was most, if not all, of our budget.

 

[LARulz]

The thing that worries me is that we have no style of play after 2 summers. He has had more than enough time to implement his philosophy and buy players to fit it

Managers at other clubs come in and hit the ground running

 

[The Mitcher]

Is black an insult now?

To some people yes. But person of colour is ok apparenty.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Are you that lazy to look for his name? It only takes seconds to search google. Have some bloody manners. That’s how you describe someone especially a young player from the academy? It might not be racist but it’s a bit disrespectful and borderline insulting.

100% agree, and it begs to question as to whether he/she would do it to other players.

 

[Cassidy]

Napoli were asking for 130 mil which was most, if not all, of our budget.

Like I just said and I’ll repeat it. If you add the Mount fee to the Hojlund fee, we could have signed Osimhen. We did not need Mount, we needed a world class level striker

 

[The Mitcher]

100% agree, and it begs to question as to whether he/she would do it to other players.

He would yes.

 

[The Hilton]

Everyone jumping on the Mount signing being the sign of an idiot manager I assume feel the same way about Klopp and Arteta, who both also wanted him, right?

As for EtH, he's got a way he wants us playing, we're just not very good at it yet - last season he basically gave up after our poor start, realising we simply didn't have the personnel, this time around hopefully it clicks sooner rather than later.

 

[Red in STL]

Ive said it plenty of times. If you include the Mount fee and wages. We could have probably signed Osimhen

Dream on, this is the real world not FM

 

[The Mitcher]

Like I just said and I’ll repeat it. If you add the Mount fee to the Hojlund fee, we could have signed Osimhen. We did not need Mount, we needed a world class level striker

And that would mean little to no funds for everything else considering the struggles we've had selling players. Budgeting is a thing.

 

[city-puma]

The thing that worries me is that we have no style of play after 2 summers. He has had more than enough time to implement his philosophy and buy players to fit it

Managers at other clubs come in and hit the ground running

Well, we have clear style but it can only last 30 mins or so. Then, the team is out of steam. It has been a pattern now.

 

[Cassidy]

Dream on, this is the real world not FM

Its the truth. The asking price could have been met if you combine the Hojlund and Mount fees. Also wages wise, well Mounts wages would have covered that

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

To some people yes. But person of colour is ok apparenty.

It's not about that!

If you're a fan, 1) you should know what his name is 2) if you don't know, fecking research it. It's not hard!

 

[Cassidy]

And that would mean little to no funds for everything else considering the struggles we've had selling players. Budgeting is a thing.

Completely missing the point. How did we manage to sign Hojlund, Mount (for the asking price of Osimhen) and still manage to sign Onana?

 

[The Mitcher]

Everyone jumping on the Mount signing being the sign of an idiot manager I assume feel the same way about Klopp and Arteta, who both also wanted him, right?

As for EtH, he's got a way he wants us playing, we're just not very good at it yet - last season he basically gave up after our poor start, realising we simply didn't have the personnel, this time around hopefully it clicks sooner rather than later.

We don't have a manager or players who can accommodate him properly. Also, what is ETH's style? Whatever this is and last year's couldn't be any different.

 

[Red in STL]

What was he supposed to use? Please, tell us the criteria.

Do some research, a simple Google search finds the answer pretty easily

 

[The Mitcher]

It's not about that!

If you're a fan, 1) you should know what his name is 2) if you don't know, fecking research it. It's not hard!

I get he should know these things and should use google, but no point jumping on him for it.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

He would yes.

I said it begs the question. Neither you or I know that, so don't say yes as if its a fact!

 

[kaku06]

It's not about that!

If you're a fan, 1) you should know what his name is 2) if you don't know, fecking research it. It's not hard!

Exactly.

 

[bosnian_red]

I trust that he knows how to adapt and make it work, but he does need to adapt things. Rashford top almost never works, the midfield has issues in transition defensively and you just can't have a midfielder doing nothing on the ball in our setup.

 

[The Mitcher]

Completely missing the point. How did we manage to sign Hojlund, Mount (for the asking price of Osimhen) and still manage to sign Onana?

Probably because we spent the whole budget on those three alone. You're not getting that we have to spend WISELY. That means not wasting money on one player where two could be cheaper and imptove us as a team for less money.