No they don't, Manchester is Manchester and London is London, that is a pretty massive box right there!
Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."
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No they don't, Manchester is Manchester and London is London, that is a pretty massive box right there!
Just an opinion but like Stones and Sterling, combined total of 100m are examples of the tax for English players...
Because they qualify as homegrown and fill a quota, Dier isn't homegrown, to all intents and purposes he's an overseas player.
Tell me about it.The reason is Cantona. If not for him I would've been a Spurs fan.
Is he even good enough to start for Spurs every game if all of their players are fit? I thought the only reason he's been playing so much lately is because of CB injuries? He's not better than Dembele or Wanyama in midfield and isn't as good as Vert or Alderweireld in defense.
He's a solid player but nothing more. And you guys have many of those already.
He's a solid player but nothing more. And you guys have many of those already.
There's cheaper ways of filling a quota than spending 100m but I agree so conversely just makes the price even more inflated if he's not homegrown....
Agree, we aren't looking to improve the squads quality, we need to improve the starting 11....he doesn't.
No ambition!
The reason is Cantona. If not for him I would've been a Spurs fan.
That must feel a bit weird, no, supporting a club that you have no real connection with through location or blood?
I can understand that you liked a player but it would feel very weird to me to support a club that wasn't local and wasn't in my family.
Not meant to be digging, it's a genuine question as I've never understood how people support clubs that they have no natural affinity with.
Care to elaborate, who has no ambition, Dier?
Lots of reasons why people support clubs. Being from Northern Ireland i obviously have no link to any English clubs but I'm just as much a spurs fan as anybody from North London.
I'm not saying that you're not, but you also haven't grown up right next door to another professional club as the guy who I was asking has.
It seems very strange to me to grow up in the proximity or community of one club and to support another.
If you are in a region where there are no clubs it makes much more sense.
Anyone who moves to a club based on the City alone.
A decision made as a 7 year old doesn't require much rationale to be fair.
I liked Cantona and had no family that supported Spurs.
Many people in Tottenham support United. When your as big and successful as United, you tend to get supporters from everywhere regardless if you live in a city/town that has its on football club.
As opposed to money?
Who said money?
Fair play, although I'm also from the area and I can't say I've ever known Utd fans, pretty much all Spurs, Arsenal and West Ham with Orient seemingly universal as everybody's second club. But then I've been gone a pretty long time.
It's each to their own.
He might think that. You'd have to ask him?
I think it's far fetched to believe that a player would pick Spurs over United though because they finished ahead of us for two seasons..
Maybe, but I don't think it's far fetched to think Utd aren't the draw that they once were. Other clubs have money as well now, geographically it's not London or the South East where most wealthy people would likely choose to live given the choice.
Utd aren't a dominant force anymore and there aren't too many reasons to believe that they will ever dominate again. It's more likely that 3 or 4 clubs will be as equally competitive over the longer course and no one club will enjoy sustained superiority.
Spurs are perhaps just behind those 3 or 4 clubs but it's no longer a gulf and we are likely to remain competitive and an attractive proposition for players.
The Mail in on this as well now, they are saying £40M.
A "squad player" who has played just about every single league game, European game, and cup game for Spurs.
Hopefully rehashing news from The Sun
Probably, I think the International break tends to breed more of these stories, between Dier and Bakayoko it's been a bleak week for our midfield links.
I don't see the Carrick comparison myself. Although I don't watch Spurs much, am I wrong here? Can he control a game with his passing?
Isn't a starter?
I may be wrong, and I can't be bothered to check, but I'm pretty sure Dier may have the most starts in all comps than any other Spurs player. If not the most he's likely top 3.
I only know this because I've worried at times that Poch never seems to give him a rest.
Also in terms of business Levy keeping this young English core is likely very good for business. A lot of our sponsorship deals are expiring soon and we also have a stadium naming rights deal coming up. Having talents like Kane, Alli, Dier etc. Is exactly what clients like their brands to be associated with and Levy is not foolish enough to oversee that.
Someone would have to pay so over the odds for our players to compensate for what would be a possible morale loss, a possible loss in future ticket sales for a 60,000+ seater stadium, advertising and sponsorship deals, a potential competitive loss of it were to a Prem rival (champs league money + TV money discrepancies in place finishes).
People can say that if no one else was interested and if the player aggitated for the move then they'd likely go. This is true and it requires conditions we have not seen for a long time.
Do you know what talking smack is? Because you just managed to throw up a whole lot. If United wanted to sign one of your players, they would be lining up to sign for United (if Levy let them leave) Apart from being a few points better off than us, there is nothing, I mean nothing better about Spurs than United.
The Sterling comparison is not a very good one for the point you are trying to make.
Sterling's contract was running down and Liverpool were being faced with the possibility of him leaving for free or leaving for a cut rate price. It's altogether possible Liverpool would have dug in their heels and parked Sterling down were it not for the contract.
We had a similar issue with Berbatov which everyone likely remembers. Ever since then Levy doesn't let Spurs player's contracts get anywhere close to running down.
So the Sterling situation is not a synonymous one to any Spurs player.
You might need new scouts then if United haven't been interested in one single Spurs player in the last near decade.
Such unwarranted arrogance! There are several things more attractive about Spurs than United, including:
* Team spirit and cohesion.
* Squad stability
* A more balanced team.
* Pochettino
* London location.
* Better training facilities
* A young average age that will likely mean further improvement even without additional signings.
* Several players who are better than their United counterparts.
Please!. Other than being a London club, there is nothing you hold over United. But if it makes you happy, you can continue dreaming.
With Manchester United there's a feeling of inevitability that we'll be at the top sooner rather than later, it's why the likes of Pogba and Ibra come here. Hell, we've won more than you guys have for God knows how long, but in the last 2 years, players like winning, spurs don't win, facts don't lie, the only appealing thing about Spurs is the fact you're in the South. I don't mean to sound like a homer or harsh but everything is set up for United to succeed, you had your chance last year and blew it to Leicester, it's as good as it gets for you lot.
It always amuses me when Spurs fans on here get accused of being arrogant and delusional when there are posts like yours floating around.
There is supposedly nothing better about Spurs than United but Ray Charles can see that we play better football and arguably have better players in every single position so I think you might want to re-think that statement.
United seem more interested in spunking millions on players that are over hyped and overpriced, un-proven (in England) or don't even fit into their system (or a combination of all 3) so I'm not worried in the slightest of losing any of my players to them.
We will continue to unearth gems and you can continue to buy players that only look the business in ads.
I think London can be a bigger draw than Manchester for some.
EDIT - Right. You said that. Well, Spurs have Glaston. Surely that counts for something?
London is infinitely more attractive to millionaire footballers than Manchester. And rightly so.
That said, it's a bit silly to talk about United and Spurs as though they are in the same stratosphere.
That said, it's a bit silly to talk about United and Spurs as though they are in the same stratosphere.
For all the bullet points on Spurs cohesion and team building etc.....We have still won actual trophies despite the turmoil we've been in since Fergie left and we are in the hunt for one more this season, meanwhile Spurs have shown no improvement over the last few seasons in terms of winning trophies depsite all these superior players and conditions.
Poch is wonderful yet he's delivered nothing, we won an FA Cup with a lunatic dinosaur in charge and 2 kids as our strike force, one of whom had only started playing senior football that year. We have our problems but this idea that we have all these supposed inferiorities to a club that never wins a trophy and clearly can't handle Europe, is silly.
Poch is wonderful yet he's delivered nothing, we won an FA Cup with a lunatic dinosaur in charge and 2 kids as our strike force, one of whom had only started playing senior football that year. We have our problems but this idea that we have all these supposed inferiorities to a club that never wins a trophy and clearly can't handle Europe, is silly.
Sadly United win, Spurs don't, keep unearthing your gems whilst we keep winning, how long has it been since 2 trophies for you guys? We've won one this season, one last, potentially 2 this season as well. Respect for Poch he's fantastic and Spurs really do have quality players, Eriksen, Kane, Lloris, players that can play for huge clubs, but if you're getting knocked out by Genk/Gent can't even remember and you don't win titles and lose the BPL to Leicester when you finally got a chance then sorry, but your club isn't even comparible to United, even in the current situation, be second all you like? We're winning things now and will continue to do so.
Some spurs fans on this forum think they have it all because they finish top 4 for a few season, Jesus, when Manchester teams hit it up a notch next season I dont think they'll be so lucky to finish top 4 anymore.
I'm not suggesting that I want Dier, but many on this forum criticized the Carrick signing at the time. He proved those people wrong. It's possible that Dier could do the same.
You're quite right, but Carrick's face never annoyed me.
I don't think we have it all, but I think we have a better team than United currently and we play better football (is that even debatable?) so the notion that any current first team Spurs player is lining up outside Old Trafford with beady eyes, pen in hand, desperate to sign a contract is laughable. Still waiting for the United world domination which has apparently been in the works for 4 or so years now that still hasn't materialised. How much longer does the football world have to wait?
Now lets get back to the topic at hand. Dier won't be sold to United.