He is playing every week for Spurs.
Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."
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He is playing every week for Spurs.
I wouldn't mind him here, but it's not going to happen. Levy is a nightmare and I doubt United will want to re-vist that turf.
[QUOTE="SammyUnited_83, post: 20652301, member: 60665"]Would Spurs have kept Bale, if the only bid on the table that summer was £80mil from City / Utd and the player was desperate to leave? No. There is a huge difference by the way from a playing wanting to leave, and someone who is desperate to leave that they are happy to down tools / go on strike etc etc.
The only reason you haven't sold to a domestic rival is because you have had the choice, and the players you had were that good, that they attracted Madrid, a club that 99.99999% of players choose above anyone.
I'm sure at some point one of your star players will go to a domestic rival, and as a Utd fan I'm not foolishness enough to think we are immune from the same fate - all clubs are.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure we would have.
The only reason you haven't sold to a domestic rival is because you have had the choice, and the players you had were that good, that they attracted Madrid, a club that 99.99999% of players choose above anyone.
I'm sure at some point one of your star players will go to a domestic rival, and as a Utd fan I'm not foolishness enough to think we are immune from the same fate - all clubs are.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure we would have.
Yes he is, but he wouldn't be in our strongest 4231, he's currently benefitting from playing 3 at the back. That said he is one that allows us to play the 3. But he's also the only of the 3CB's that we could upgrade and have cash left over to use elsewhere.
This could be an interesting deal for us to consider.
One of the first sensible posts from a Spurs fan in this thread.
Fair play to you, mate.
I agree with most of this. I think Levy might sell to United if a big offer is made - this is because Dier is not in the category of 'star players' at Spurs and so Levy wouldn't be changing the policy that's stood since Berbatov.
The only part I don't think is yet sure is the bit about Dier as 2nd choice behind Wanyama in the DM position. Because we've gone for 3 at the back - and Dier fits this pretty well as the right-sided one of the 3 - we've not yet really seen whether Poch would otherwise choose to start him ahead of Wanyama. Although the latter has been mostly impressive, so was Dier last season in that position.
However, the emergence of Winks now changes things further, so Poch may well consider that - if for big money - Dier can go.
But if Poch now sees 3 at the back as his favoured system - and it seems that he does - then Dier's stock becomes more valued for Spurs.
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I just corrected your "1 season" post. If you now want to switch track onto trophies, that's another matter.
My point being if he was that desperate to play for us, he would have said to Tottenham I'm only signing for Utd. He wasn't so he went to Madrid.
RvP was desperate to play for us and turned down other moves abroad, which Arsenal would have much preferred.
All true, but I think Dier is a better DM than CB, especially when forced into playing as one of 2 CB's and not one of 3.
Totally agree how Winks changes Dier's position at the club, although a completely different type of midfield player he's the only one of his type that we have, whereas Dier see Wanyama.
If we get the right money we can find a pure CB upgrade and use the much needed cash in other areas. I'm not saying I would like to see Dier go, far from it, I like him a lot. However at the right money this could potentially be a deal that would suit all parties.
And I'm pretty sure you wouldn't.[/QUOTE]
Pure guess work on both sides, only evidence from the timeframe is Levy refusing point blank to sell Modric to Chelsea.
He could have said what he wanted, Modric said the same about Chelsea and went nowhere.
Head, against, wall.
Would he have gone to Chelsea? Yes. Was he desperate to force a move when you refused (like Berbatov was)? No. He didn't force the move as it wasn't his dream club, if it was, he would have got his way.
If there was only domestic interest you would have eventually sold, yeah you might have saved face for a year but ultimately he would have gone.
I am not being critical as all clubs (utd included) would eventually budge. It's happened on many, many occasions.
Look at Sterling, Liverpool were desperate to sell abroad, couldn't drum up interest, realised they could only sell domestically and pulled City's pants down.
Are you telling me Spurs would have kept Sterling in the same situation?
OK, you guy's finished above us twice, but your fans talking smack is laughable when you're won nothing of significance.
You can bash your head against the wall all you like because you don't know the case. Modric publicly pushed for a move to Chelsea, Levy said no, Modric kept pushing publically and Levy just ignored it.
Following year he went to Real, would he have gone to Chelsea, no, Levy was adamant it wasn't happening. He would have gone to an English club when he had 2 years or less left
Liverpool are owned by disconnected owners, Levy is fully invested, it's not the same.
There's literally no Spurs fan in here talking smack.
It appears that your feathers have been ruffled by the fact that it wouldn't be deemed a step up for any of our first team players to join Utd currently.
You can bring up trophies and you can try to diminish our league positions in the past few seasons all you like, it doesn't change anything.
Bang average and an icon for Englisj football, strong, physique but extremely limited. From Carrick to Dier would just highlight how far we have fallen.
He's hardly an icon for English football seeing as he come through the youth programme at Sporting Lisbon.
At least we can bring trophies up.
Oh please don't say we are linked to this tosser. Average as they come. Not much better than Henderson
Not good enough. Hopefully it's bullshit
Is there another fanbase that needs to lecture everybody about their future prospects and plans for world domination when their fecking DM is linked with a move away?
It's not about where he was in the academy, but the type of football and players English clubs like, albeit different players, English football need more of Winks' type players and less of Dier. 11 bricks who could switch to a match of rugby in half time doesnt help, not for the national team nor for the teams in Europe, not that Dier is a pure brick, he has decent passing but he's just very limited and pretty much only suited for English football. These are the players that are rated most sadky enough, add in the Hendersons, Barkley's, Shaws if you want to.
What does this even mean? Makes no sense!
No thanks
There are plenty of limited players at big clubs and in major international teams, why, because despite having some limitations they do jobs within a team structure that are vital for a team to function cohesively.
Finances, new ground and Spurs being a few fecking points ahead of us in the league are all brought up. Who fecking cares, you should bite our hands off if we're stupid enough to make an absurd bid for him.
There's no need to sell the forum on Spurs bright future every time one of your players are linked with a move away.
Who cares? Not me for sure and I don't think many if any if the rest of us are, we are where we are and that's it!
We're good to watch though!
That's true, however he is limited as in his reading of the game too which makes it very dangerous for a midfielder, English football undervalues the midfield enormously, when you put up players like Dier and Henderdon to try and win a cup, you are taking the piss. I dont think there are any world class DM at the moment as limited as he is; the likes of Kante/Matic/Nzonzi/Casemiro/Veratti/Fernandinho/Busquets are so much more skillful and better on the ball, If you want elite, you need better than Dier. We might as well play Fellaini there. He does have a nice free kick tho.
It's unbelievably tedious. There was even a mention of Levy's Economics degree
I really like Spurs as I grew up minutes away from the stadium but the arrogance and pettiness of the Spurs fans here almost makes me dislike them.
Is there no other Foreign alternative? Think we will be able to snag a bargain for half the price of a Eric Dier and same if not better technical ability!
Mr Average that we'll pay British tax to get. He's a 20m player at best....
This ignores the fact that it wasn't a Spurs fan who brought up the subject of our new stadium and suggested that the cost of this would mean we'd have to sell players.
Complaining about replies to such posts is like complaining that apples fall to the ground when you shake the apple tree.
Do you really think players sign for clubs based on league position alone?
Let's be honest bar that United tick every single box that Spurs don't.
United are a bigger club
More illustrious history
Bigger fan base
To play at Old Trafford
To win trophies
Jose Mourinho
Off the top of my head..
Apparently he supports United too. Plus the most important thing to most players - wages
I don't really want him here but it just makes me laugh that certain Spurs fans can't seem to fathom that United are a huge huge club worldwide. A few seasons without a title won't change that.
Why, when he's not a homegrown player?
It's unbelievably tedious. There was even a mention of Levy's Economics degree
I really like Spurs as I grew up minutes away from the stadium but the arrogance and pettiness of the Spurs fans here almost makes me dislike them.
Why don't you support Spurs then?
Don't worry, I think I know the answer, it's murder growing up with no bedroom windows!