I doubt anyone here gives a shit tbh.
Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
I am not one to usually complain about fees, but 60 million for Dier is a bit silly
We had these same arguments when Carrick was signed.
Carrick was a much more established and better player imo. The problem with him was only that he was not as aggressive as Keane and people wanted a player like Keane was
Yup.
Ah great ok, well in that case I bow to the might of Utd and I hope Dier does well for you. Also, thanks for the £60 million+ quid.
No, not impossible but would be incredibly foolish considering our history with players with injuries.
Yeah lets see how that one goes. With £60 million Spurs could probably buy 3 or 4 very good players considering how good they are in the transfer market in fairness.
City signed Gundogan last summer whilst recovering from a dislocated knee.
When did we pay £60m
There is no Dier bid, its a smokescreen and maybe a tactic to unsettle spurs a little.
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Why would Dier leave and why would Spurs sell if he is as good as told? Spurs have the potential to be champions in one-two seasons I think, and have an excellent team. While the Spurs value him very high and want to become an elite club? I myself think he's bang average, mind.
Why did David Villa, Juan Mata and David Silva leave Valencia. Bit of a silly question your asking if you use natural logic.
I'd rather we pay 60m for Dier than 40m for Matic. Neither are worth it, but that is the market climate. If we could get Dier for 50m+addons i'd consider it a much better deal than Matic for the prices quoted in the media.
He'd leave because he's got Wanyama ahead of him in midfield, he role he wants to play for club and internationally moving forward, so has to compromise and play defence. He could double his wages, and play for an elite club with a manager who knows how to win and values players of his ilk.
Spurs would sell because they have a solid midfield with Wanayama, Dembele, plus Winks and potentially Adrien Silva and/or Barkley as options in there too, plus Dier the defender could be upgraded for less than half the fee they'd receive. Alfie Mawson has been linked, and is a better natural defender.
It's a good deal for all parties involved.
Hardly a good deal for us if we're paying a fortune for a Spurs back up midfielder who's a pretty average defender.
I imagine Dier might be quite up for this move if it means that he doesn't have Pogba doing this to him two games a season:
United have just as much chance of winning the title in the next couple of years as Spurs, in fact next season is not beyond the realms of possibility when you consider the quality at the club. Only thing we're missing is a DM, and Dier can fill that void as well as anyone in my opnion.
Levy can play hard ball until he's blue in the face, but you cannot stop the inevitable. If Jose wants him strongly enough, he'll get him.
Money talks.
There must be better out there for that amount. and Levy won't sell. period.
I can't understand why we're in for him.
Maybe I've only watched him on bad days, but to me he's bang average.
I actually like the idea of Dier playing the midfield anchor role behind Herrera and Pogba. I think it has the potential to be as strong as any midfield in the prem.
He'd be a classic typical Utd signing, young with plenty of potential from a good English team. It's the sort of signing we used to make all the time under Fergie.
Who do you rate that's better and realistically attainable at present?
David Villa went to Barcelona? Best team in the world. Juan Mata and David Silva went to other, bigger leagues, might have loved to challenge themselves. Valencia wasnt a title or potential title winning side.
Dislike this argument. Dier is not the only decent CDM (I happen to not rate him or think he is a CDM) in the world. Just because we don't have our modest opinion on some player to hand, on something we're not particularly qualified to say anyway doesn't mean Dier is the answer. In most cases, Dier is not going to be the answer. Ever.
As the guy said, why would we sign him if he cant even get ahead of Wanyama? And dont Spurs play with 2 CDM's often?
Mwah, Spurs are far closer to winning it that we are to be fair. Their squad is much more complete, they only miss a class winger imo, hoping Son can do an excellent job out wide. We dont only need a DM, thats untrue. We need at least one winger who'll perform, or a 10 who can make the play and add in goals/assists (maybe Mkhi who'd step up), we need an LB too. And even then we still have really inconsistent players playing.
That is not an answer, lad.
I simply cannot think of a more suitable candidate to fill the anchor role than Dier, if you can think if a better, more realistic option then go ahead and enlighten me. I'm all ears
The bookies make us the joint second faves for the title with Chelsea at 10/3. City are the faves at 7/4. Spurs are 9/1.
Mourinho can deliver a second season special at United, and Dier will want to be part of that incredible story.
Purely your opinion, though, and one that I disagree with. We can challenge for the title next season without a doubt.
To be competitive next season we'd only really need a quality DM capable of performing well on a consistent basis - Dire for instance. Ideally we'd sign a winger too, but it wouldn't be an essential purchase. Miki, Martial, Lingard and Rashford can play the role well enough for the time being.
Luke Shaw has the potential to be world class, based on this factor alone he deserves another season to prove himself. Darmian and young can cover if need be.
Let's agree to disagree then. Think Shaw is massively overrated on here and those wing options are decent, but not enough to win the PL.
Think that's indeed mainly based on Mou's second season syndrome, depending also on the signings we might make. We still have quite some work to do.
I don't understand though, he doesn't even play there? he got shafted from that position when Wanyama came in. I can pick someone off the top of my head - Allan from Napoli, but that's not really my point. You're probably only saying Dier is the best option as you don't have any other examples of CDMs to mind, not to mention I think you still think he plays CDM.
So one of the most talented CM in the world dribbled past Dier a couple of times. Surely we shouldn't buy him up
I didnt watch the game but is this it, this is what people are raving about? Didnt actually go anywhere
Christian fuchs and Danny Simpson fullback pair won the PL ffs. If we don't win PL it's not because of players like Shaw.
What do people expect from a defensive central midfielder nowadays? Are we talking someone who can do the "Makelele role"? Or someone more like Carrick who plugs gaps and then uses the ball intelligently.
Or something else?
I can't see Dier doing either of those.
Or something else?
I can't see Dier doing either of those.
Decent player. Would be a solid signing.
60million is insane for what he would bring.
35 at a push, no higher.
60million is insane for what he would bring.
35 at a push, no higher.
Not sure.. that's why I was sort of asking. Delle Ali ha ha
People keep repeating this myth, but it's wide of the mark. Dier was excellent in the DM role the season before last, but we didn't play with a back 3 then. Now we do and Dier has been shifted there because he can contribute more to the team in that position compared to any of the other alternatives to Alderweireld and Vertonghen.
After United, there wasn't a team in the prem I watched more than Spurs. Quality young team with a solid English presence throughout and a manager who directs his players to play the game in a way I appreciate. Plus they all seem to share a hunger and desire I haven't seen since the emergence of the Co92. I've seen more than enough to place a concrete judgement on Dier, yes he can play at CB, he can play at RB too, but his ideal role is that of a CDM. His versatility is a just another plus point.
Wanyama does not play DM the way Dier does. Whether by design or by tendency, I don't think he's the best player for Spurs against strong defenses. They control possession better with that back three and advanced fullbacks. Spurs fans feel free to correct me if need be.
I'd tke Dier over Wanyama any day of the week.