How many times has Blind played in midfield since he was signed? Seems there is this great myth that he's some midfield general... who multiple managers don't pick in midfield.
Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."
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How many times has Blind played in midfield since he was signed? Seems there is this great myth that he's some midfield general... who multiple managers don't pick in midfield.
He was at ajax.
I'm sorry but Dier is not on the level we should be looking for. We need someone who has composure like Carrick and is comfortable with the ball at his feet. Eric Dier from what I've seen looks like bambi on ice when trying to play out and it can be very dangerous when you have so many players down the other end. Just watch the recent friendly against France. I'm not saying he's a bad player but I feel like we should be looking for more in our midfielders.
Do you think that Dier will be picked as midfield general if he was man utd player? I only compare Blind to Dier as both of them can play CB and DM. And Blind is actually better on the ball and passing. Anyway as I said we should aim higher.
Dier is the new Matic smokescreen.
Dier would be a great signing. Think he was Man Utd mad as a kid and maybe time to put a few noises out there to try and unsettle him before putting in a bid.
I think the money being talked about is crazy. He's definitely a decent player in his role and I wouldn't be against us signing him because he would be a good option to rotate in our midfield. But hes not of a quality that Spurs couldnt improve on themselves, so it seems really strange to be hearing about him costing mega money. He's a 6.5 to 7 out of 10
As I just posted in the Dier/Matic thread,
I think Dier would do very well, particularly with Mourinho coaching him.
Young players who come up at a smaller club like Spurs more often than not kick on when they move to the top level.
Besides the club can't keep throwing money at the "finished article", some risk is usually taken. See e.g. Ince, Keane, Cantona, Cole, Yorke, Rio, Evra, Carrick, Vidic, de Gea etc.
He is not worth more than 25m or 30m. 50m or even more is insane, if Fabinho is begging for a 40m move. Hopefully Spurs tell us to feck off for our own good or ask 70m and we walk away.
Why would we want to shell out a big fee for a player Spurs can afford to lose?
I'd prefer Ndidi from Leicester even. Does a similar job but with higher workrate and hes only 20 years old. Wouldnt be surprised if he outshines him next season.
Then theres Gueye who has shown his quality
Then theres Gueye who has shown his quality
Because they are stacked in the position and we aren't?
Dier is slower than me. We can do better than him, surely
Eric Dier isn't slow, far from it.
I think he's a squad player. Would be very useful in certain games where he had a specific job to do and as cover for defence/midfield but doesn't have the passing qualities to start at the base of our midfield IMO.
Starter in different positions for a club that's accumulated the most Premier League points over the past 2 seasons isn't good enough for a United team that finished 6th last season and often utilised Fellaini as the midfield anchor.....ok chaps.
It's worrying how stupid the football public has become in the past decade; EA FIFA, YouTube and 3 kits a season have seen know-nothings belittle very talented, tactically astute footballers for not being sexy enough to comply with their warped idea of building a successful team.
Luckily for Dier, Pocchettino rates him highly, and clearly so does Mourinho; the opinion of some forum-dwelling fanboy of all things cosmopolitan is completely irrelevant to him, his life and his career.
Post-Ferguson, United have tried to go golactico to appease the goons, and it's resulted in a prolonged era of relative, expensive obscurity. Di Maria, Falcao and Pogba have all arrived and failed miserably (although there is hope for PP yet if he stops believing his own #hype) to return the club to the Fergie-era glory.
Dier isn't supposed to be the new Carrick; Pogba is being moulded into a deeper passing-machine, but he needs a tactically aware destroyer next to him to neutralise the flaws of utilising him there. Dier fits that role perfectly, as you will see next season.
It's worrying how stupid the football public has become in the past decade; EA FIFA, YouTube and 3 kits a season have seen know-nothings belittle very talented, tactically astute footballers for not being sexy enough to comply with their warped idea of building a successful team.
Luckily for Dier, Pocchettino rates him highly, and clearly so does Mourinho; the opinion of some forum-dwelling fanboy of all things cosmopolitan is completely irrelevant to him, his life and his career.
Post-Ferguson, United have tried to go golactico to appease the goons, and it's resulted in a prolonged era of relative, expensive obscurity. Di Maria, Falcao and Pogba have all arrived and failed miserably (although there is hope for PP yet if he stops believing his own #hype) to return the club to the Fergie-era glory.
Dier isn't supposed to be the new Carrick; Pogba is being moulded into a deeper passing-machine, but he needs a tactically aware destroyer next to him to neutralise the flaws of utilising him there. Dier fits that role perfectly, as you will see next season.
Well said, glad someone else can see the benefits to signing him.
Were Dier to join United, which looks unlikely at this point all things considered, he would be deployed simply as a holding mid and nothing more; used as a foil for Pogba, allowing our most creative player the freedom required to perform his duties. A role in which Dier is perfectly suited to play at a high standard.
I'm suprised by how little the United fans think of Dier, for me he is the perfect Carrick replacement. Not the most technically efficient player in the prem, certainly not on the level of his would be predecessor, but aside from the exceptional standouts such as Essien, Busquets, Cambiasso or Alonso - all of whom are well beyond our reach - very few DM's would claim tecnically proficiency as their underlining quality.
If he were named Dierinho and born of Spanish descent, the interest in him would be quadruple what it is now. Firmly believe that.
Dier is a 30 million pound player at best but the problem we have is spurs don't want/need to sell him, hence why we will have to pay the price quoted .
I'm sure there are better options out there but he's English , young and as room for improvement and can operate a number of positions .
I will trust Jose in this one
I'm sure there are better options out there but he's English , young and as room for improvement and can operate a number of positions .
I will trust Jose in this one
He doesn't qualify as homegrown so it's of no real benefit.
Better options out there for less money. Plus he probably isn't going to leave Spurs anyway.
Didn't know that mate .
I'm still of the old school fan that likes to have a good English core to the squad .
As soon as Rooney , carrick , maybe jones and smalling go we won't have many left
This.
Seems like we won't sign a LB. Which would be good for Shaw.
So, how would we line up with him? Would it be a 352?
I am sure once there are English players good enough we will grab some. The 2 best are at Tottenham and Dier is average.
Not sure who else in the England squad right now I would have TBH.
If we're looking for a 'passer' to play at the base of our midfield, that would also rule out Fabinho - he's no better than Dier in that regard.
Because , there are none good enough . Dier been one . There are no English players at the moment who are nearly as good as a core as Rooney , Carrick , and Rio at their prime .
He's flexible enough that he could play as a CB in 352, a DM in a 352, partner Pogba in a 4231, play DM in a 433 with Pogba and Herrera.
Pogba and Lukaku are basically half English
Danny rose maybe
Cheers, mate.
This would be lovely to see, of the formations you mentioned...
352 -
-------------------DDG----------------
----Bailly--------Lindelof------Rojo---
Val----------------------------------Blind
-----Herrera------Dier------Pogba------
--------Rashford-------Romelu---------
Oh feck. Come on United, move on from this guy. Every time I see him he's shit - do not want! I'm saying it again, does not have the right mentality for United.
Got to be someone else out there, and do not want to deal with Spurs.
Jose and his boring targets
Feck sakes!
Got to be someone else out there, and do not want to deal with Spurs.
Jose and his boring targets
Feck sakes!Blind has been bellow par when played in cm for us, but this myth won't go away.
The same for TFM.
The midfield equivalent of John Stones. Making some absolutely idiotic mistakes, doesnt seem like the Mourinho type of CDM at all.
This exactly. Completely uninspiring if we buy him
Hope we steer away from him. Average as it gets. Would prefer Matic to him.
Oh feck. Come on United, move on from this guy. Every time I see him he's shit - do not want! I'm saying it again, does not have the right mentality for United.
Got to be someone else out there, and do not want to deal with Spurs.
Jose and his boring targets
Don't worry mate, the amount of press this shit gets, mostly (and only) from English journos ensures me that we're absolutely not in for him and that we surely won't get him. Expect some unexpected target imo.
I hope you're right mate.
I know it's not popular but I'd love to bring him in. Won't be cut up if we don't but I'd like to see him in red
Would prefer him to Matic, but nah, don't see this happening and really hoping it doesn't.