Well it's an upside, something I don't see any of in Matic. I would rather we avoided both but at the very least we could shift Dier on without getting drained as usual.
Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."
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Well it's an upside, something I don't see any of in Matic. I would rather we avoided both but at the very least we could shift Dier on without getting drained as usual.
Dier has question marks against him at the highest level.
He had poor Euros for England last summer and looked unable to get a grip on the games against mediocre opponents. Watching him against Scotland recently, he again looked clueless just as he was also underwhelming in Spurs' embarrassing Champions League and subsequent Europa League campaigns. In fact despite his reputation and the amount of journalistic ink spilled on him and the rest of Spurs, he has yet collected any medals to prove himself a winner.
I'd therefore be very surprised if Dier was Mourinho's top midfield target, and I'm hopeful that we are looking elsewhere.
He had poor Euros for England last summer and looked unable to get a grip on the games against mediocre opponents. Watching him against Scotland recently, he again looked clueless just as he was also underwhelming in Spurs' embarrassing Champions League and subsequent Europa League campaigns. In fact despite his reputation and the amount of journalistic ink spilled on him and the rest of Spurs, he has yet collected any medals to prove himself a winner.
I'd therefore be very surprised if Dier was Mourinho's top midfield target, and I'm hopeful that we are looking elsewhere.
I'm yet to read or see anything that would change my view. I still think he'd be a very shrewd signing and would be a very good player for us.
At this point I'm just going to trust Mourinho to build a competitive team. If Dier fits the bill then so be it.
Very very underwhelming signing. So far, all of Mourinho's signing have been great, this one would be the first where I think he got it right. Midfield is such a crucial position and I would have hoped we would have gone for someone much better
He's not really a defensive midfielder though is he? But he's young enough that he can develop further I suppose.
Given the general dislike for Matic as well I feel many aren't going to be happy with any DM unless he's Brazilian, plays for Monaco and is named Fabinho
I can understand that though, because Fabinho just makes so much sense.
I'd take Dier every day over Matic though, seeing as they seemingly might cost around the same amount. He's younger, English and has a lot of potential.
I'd take Dier every day over Matic though, seeing as they seemingly might cost around the same amount. He's younger, English and has a lot of potential.
I may be wrong but wouldn't Fabinho be more of a Herrera type rather than a DM?
I'm happy to go along with what Jose wants - he knows what he's doing.
I'm happy to go along with what Jose wants - he knows what he's doing.
Pretty much. Odd that aside form PSG most big clubs seem lukewarm on Fabinho yet fans think he is a mix of Keane, Viera and Pele
I petitioned for Fabinho months ago but you've got to wonder just why he's not being heavily linked with anyone, a lot of sides could do with his kind of player but apart from loose links with us, City, Juve and PSG there's been nothing you would class as concrete. Certainly appears he's most likely to still be at Monaco next season.
I still think he's a cracking player and my first choice but I think it's time to almost admit defeat with that one and concede we're not interested in him (seemingly)
I still think he's a cracking player and my first choice but I think it's time to almost admit defeat with that one and concede we're not interested in him (seemingly)
Said nobody never.
It's just that Dier is plain average and I hope it's all media bullshit and we're doing some undercover action with Fabinho. I'd be okay with Matić too.
Wouldn't put it past the fanclub. "Viera on steroids" has definitely been used tho
In resemblance to the playstyle (overly exaggerated as it is), not skill iirc.
Just give Blind a run there.
I really hope this doesn't happen, don't rate him at all. Think he is painfully average at everything.
Can we open talks for Kovacic instead.
Translation: Mo money, bitch!
Spurs know they can afford to lose him with the excellent players they already have in that position. For a big fee, they'd accept.
Exactly my thinking too
We dogded one bullet in Matic. Hopefully we can dogde another one in Dier.
Of course they'll consider a £50m bid for him. He's not even worth £20m IMV, max £30m if you're being kind. It'll be mad to give Spurs so much money to replace an average player with someone who is actually good.
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He's a very good player but not a DM from what I've seen of him. And as others have pointed out elsewhere Madrid are not reasonable with the valuations of their players.
Lol ... Dier, mainly in the back 3, was part of the best defence in the Prem last season - and mainly as DM part of the joint best defence the season before that.
Moreover he's young, an England regular now and sitting on a long contract. Pochettino values him highly and Levy would laugh in your face at your valuation.
So go ahead and bid mega-bucks for whatever 'inho' player from abroad takes your fancy. Meanwhile Spurs will sit content with perhaps the league's most versatile player (yes, he's also done well at RB when called upon to play there).
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The reason for the talk of transfer is that he doesn't wanna be a centre back. The reason I don't think he will move is because nobody will gauratee him a strictly midfield role. He's a top player in the role her has with us he's not in a dedicated role.
Please no
We're not dodging anything. We are creating smokescreens. Dier is merely another one. We are fecking with the minds of Perez and Levy this window. It's hilarious.
Still he isn't seen as good enough to be the main #6 for Spurs, the position where we most likely would deploy him.
I reckon this is a bullshit rumour.
Lol all you want but he's not worth the money for a midfield signing. I don't care if he's a half decent CB for Spurs standards, we already got one Phil Jones who can play midfield and as a CB.
How anyone can imagine this guy anchoring us against the likes of RM or Bayern is beyond me.
I detest Dier as a footballer and even I accept he's worth 20m. I mean who isn't these days?
That's not correct - and can only be seen to be correct IF Spurs ever revert to playing with a back 4 and IF (given a back 4 formation) Wanyama was to be picked ahead of him. The season before last Dier excelled in the DM role.
The fact is that we now play with a back 3 and Dier is seen as better than Wanyama as part of a back 3 .... so you might just as well say that Wanyama is not seen as good enough for that role.
I find this comforting, considering then you'll likely not sell him.
I doubt we will ... unless Dier strongly wants to leave and a huge bid is made for him.
I'd accept anything under £40 million for Dier.
I hate to back you up, but there is some severe underrating of Dier on the caf. Many on here was okay with us paying £30m for Keane (who had 1 year left on his contract), but simply don't want Dier here. Imo he's a step above Keane, due to his versatility and given his considerably longer contract, £45-50m for a young English lad is probably about right for him.
Would prefer him over Matic at least, if Fabinho isn't happening. £50m is clearly too much though. £35-40m would be about right.
I remember watching him in the recent friendly against france and I was not impressed I have to say, although it could have been just a bad game. Fabinho would be the better fit but I don't think it will happen sadly.
Totally agree mate. I don't think he has the necessary composure that someone like Carrick has and we'd run into a lot of trouble with the ball at this guy's feet. He just isn't good enough to play for United in my opinion.
Not man utd standard at all. Why buy him when we have Blind that can play the roles and probably better than Dier. We should aim higher than that.