Do the Spurs fans on here think there is any truth in Any of this?
Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."
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Similiar to so many posts in the lead up to the Fellaini signing. Obviously Fellaini and Dier are very different players but the obsession with "steel" to the point of ignoring quality remains the same. That and "PL proven", which worked out so well with Schneiderlin too.
I'd be pretty down with this, can play as a cb or cdm. We've given Jones and smalling years to come good but they're too injury prone to always count on.
The superior ability.
I personally don't.
It may for all I know be true that he prefers to play in CM rather than as a CB (and thus it may be true for all know that he's a bit unhappy about our switch to playing with a back 3), but I don't see Poch sanctioning a sale and I don't see Dier being so unhappy that he cuts up rough, even assuming that he is a bit unhappy in the first place.
I hope you're right.
I play football with a few Spurs season ticket holders. None of them think there's anything in it. They all seem to rate him pretty highly and wouldn't want to sell (unlike Walker, though think it's more of an acceptance and comfort that they have Trippier anyway)
If Mourinho goes for Dier, I would trust his judgement. It's not like he's limited on the ball. I expect us to play with two in the middle if Griezmann comes for most of the season. So Pogba+another(Herrera/Dier). Looks good to me.
He can play CB as well which is a plus considering our injury prone CBs can miss a few games now and then at the same time and because I don't see us getting another CB in, not with so many holes to fill in other areas. Baily, Rojo, Jones, Smalling, Blind and Tuanzebe..more than enough IMO and as already shown when fit they are good defenders.
Our attacks on the other hand need serious work.
He can play CB as well which is a plus considering our injury prone CBs can miss a few games now and then at the same time and because I don't see us getting another CB in, not with so many holes to fill in other areas. Baily, Rojo, Jones, Smalling, Blind and Tuanzebe..more than enough IMO and as already shown when fit they are good defenders.
Our attacks on the other hand need serious work.
I've nothing against signing a good young English player. We can't always go after foreigners with fancy names.
Guess that depends on how low your expectations are. He's certainly more limited on the ball than I want any midfielder we sign to be.
He's not as limited as Fellaini and a lot of people seem ok with having him in the squad.
They do?
Well I'm certainly not one of them.
Look in his thread after the Ajax match.
That is post EL final euphoria. For the majority of his time here most here wanted him gone.
There's a set of people on here that see him like the Elephant Man and that pity fuels them in defending a very mediocre player with massive limitations, especially if you want to play good football.
Jesus, don't put it in people's heads to start comparing him to Fellaini.
Can't see Levi selling him to us.
They would be serving very different roles. We've tried playing Fellaini in the role Dier would fill and it was neither pretty nor effective.
Totally different players
I can, if United overpay enough. That's the problem I have with a Dier signing...he's a fine player, but for the money that Levy would want, there are better players available. As an example, there are rumors of Liverpool being in for Naby Keita for 50mm. For what it would take to sign Dier, I'd want a more dynamic player like that.
I'm not a fan of Dier, but would happily replace him for Fellaini if that is the case because it sure sounds like it. Mourinho would be stupid to change Herrera and Pogba as the main two in CM, and Fellaini is the only other midfielder.
I do hope we get this type of player, so that they can sit just behind Herrera and Pogba giving them two more space to attack, without Fellaini stopping all opportunities. Would be brilliant.
I do hope we get this type of player, so that they can sit just behind Herrera and Pogba giving them two more space to attack, without Fellaini stopping all opportunities. Would be brilliant.
they are 7 or 7.5/10 midfielder players with Dembele the better rating. Wanyama is a bit of a donkey. I remember he was linked to United and his Celtic boss said opponents just let him keep the ball so I was truly against us signing him. I will admit that the 2 working together is effective as they can support each other but individually, I am not sure. United should not be signing midfielders that can't make the Spurs team and then putting said player into our starting line up. its small time. In other words....feck Dier.
I don't get it. Dier is supposedly average but Fabinho is somehow a great player. Not sure how people make out a huge gulf.
Can't make the spurs team but virtually plays every game. Makes sense.
Like him, but just doesn't seem worth the inevitable ball ache that dealing with Spurs will entail.
Everything I said above still remains.
Dier was awesome in the Euro's for England, if he can play to that level consistently this is a no brainer
If Jose thinks Dier is the perfect player to free up Pogba into the attacking monster everyone expects of him and want to see, i am all for it
Agreed. Jose has a good eye for defenders and DMs
Him and Herrera would be one cnutish midfield. I'm interested.
He does seem like a typical Mourinho player. He is definitely a midfielder only I think but Poch can't guarantee him a place there. It could make sense for all parties if the deal is right.
I have never seen dier play, How is he like? Attributes, On the ball, off the ball , Passing range, Vision, Proactive Threat Siffing qualities?
Fabinho was better than Dier in Euro 2016.
He's like a center back playing in midfield, just a few extra attributes that makes him a bit different like shooting and a bit calm with the ball under pressure.
It's true. He was rubbish. Might as well have not been there at all.
I don't see him being anything special. Does he even count as home grown?
He'd be a good signing. He's not rated on here because he's English and plays for Spurs. Which is why even Kane and Alli struggle to be rated on here at times. And he's not their level so he literally has no chance.