Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."

Do you want United to sign Eric Dier?

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AkaAkuma said:
I don't think we need to replace Carrick's passing range, we did that with Pogba.
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Long range maybe but not short, Pogbas biggest weakness is inconsistency, you'd rarely see Carrick misplace a simple ten yard pass which Pogba will do at least once in a game at the moment.
 
Devil may care said:
Exactly, that argument is so silly, the reason most don't want him is the same reason they didn't want the likes of Henderson and Milner, technically and athletically average players.
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Dier had his technique cultivated in Portugal, and that's why he's on another level to the two you mention in that regard. Actually watch him rather than throwing lazy cliches around.
 
At 30-40m, I think he'll be a good signing and good addition to the squad.

After Carrick possible departure this summer we only have Herrera, Pogba and Fellaini so We need one or 2 players in the midfield if you asked me.
 
el3mel said:
At 30-40m, I think he'll be a good signing and good addition to the squad.

After Carrick possible departure this summer we only have Herrera, Pogba and Fellaini so We need one or 2 players in the midfield if you asked me.
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Give Carrick one year extension, bring back Pereira, buy Fabinho, buy Milinkovic-Savic, sell Fellaini.
 
izec said:
Give Carrick one year extension, bring back Pereira, buy Fabinho, buy Milinkovic-Savic, sell Fellaini.
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Better to move from Carrick to a younger midfielder rather than sticking with a 36 years old midfielder imo. Carrick is great but it's time we move and find a replacement for him. This step has been delayed for too long.
 
Fabinho would better to go for simply for the fact we don't know if Dier wants to play midfield enough to force a move and even if he did, he'd cost an arm and a leg, potential fee vs quality would be much lower than someone like Fabinho.
The only thing I don't get is why posters say they don't want him... at all, like he'd not be an asset for us, taking the money out of the equation. He's exactly the type Mourinho will be looking for to anchor midfield for next season.
It's just obviously Fabinho would be the more astute target/purchase.
 
el3mel said:
Better to move from Carrick to a younger midfielder rather than sticking with a 36 years old midfielder imo. Carrick is great but it's time we move and find a replacement for him. This step has been delayed for too long.
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We dont need an exact copy of Carrick, Fabinho can take his position as a DM long term. There is no harm in keeping him in the squad for another year, he is still good enough against the lower and midtable teams. Milinkovic-Savic would replace Fellaini's aerial threat and his robustness in midfield, while being offensively a much better player, if Jose is after such a type of player.
 
AP88 said:
Dier had his technique cultivated in Portugal, and that's why he's on another level to the two you mention in that regard. Actually watch him rather than throwing lazy cliches around.
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They aren't lazy cliches, the cliche is assuming he has good technique because he was a junior in Portugal.
 
AP88 said:
He's more Gareth Barry than Carrick, the player who kept Carrick out of the team under England's most accomplished manager, Capello and was a key element in City's transition into a team that could compete at the top of the Premier League.

He's strong, tactically aware in occupying the space in front of the defence, with a an underrated, metronomic passing game and ability to commit clever fouls when necessary.

Barry neutralised Toure's many defensive flaws, that only became glaringly apparently once he left; Dier could be that player for Pogba.
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Agree with the above, although hes also capabale of not so clever fouls as well.

I think he would fit in well and is what our midfield needs, but whether its worth dealing with Levy with I am not so sure.
 
izec said:
We dont need an exact copy of Carrick, Fabinho can take his position as a DM long term. There is no harm in keeping him in the squad for another year, he is still good enough against the lower and midtable teams. Milinkovic-Savic would replace Fellaini's aerial threat and his robustness in midfield, while being offensively a much better player, if Jose is after such a type of player.
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I agree with that Fabinho part, actually I think it's very hard to find a one exactly as Carrick his experience and age plays a long part in him trading physicality and pressing to intelligence and controlling the tempo, same as Pirlo.

However, I feel it'll be better if we moved from him now to some other younger midfielders to help our future. We don't need to repeat the same mistake we did when we waited too long to replace Scholes.

I have no problems in him remaining sure as a squad player who doesn't play a lot but I think it's the right time for us to renew our midfield and start building for the future.
 
Dier wouldnt be a bad buy, but giving Levy another 40m to invest in his squad is something i dont like. For half the price, yes, which would also be a fair price, but not such a ridiculously huge fee. He would make us better, but other players will make us better too for that money and we dont have to deal with the cnut.
 
Devil may care said:
They aren't lazy cliches, the cliche is assuming he has good technique because he was a junior in Portugal.
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It's not an assumption though, because his three years in the Premier League have shown him to have very good technique and an ability to keep the ball moving on the turf, something Henderson and Milner lack.
 
izec said:
Dier wouldnt be a bad buy, but giving Levy another 40m to invest in his squad is something i dont like. For half the price, yes, which would also be a fair price, but not such a ridiculously huge fee. He would make us better, but other players will make us better too for that money and we dont have to deal with the cnut.
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Your club will shell out up to £58m for Martial - and has paid £89m for Pogba - yet £20m for Dier is a "fair price"?

You also paid £30m for Schneiderlin - and that was 2 years ago.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Your club will shell out up to £58m for Martial - and has paid £89m for Pogba - yet £20m for Dier is a "fair price"?

You also paid £30m for Schneiderlin - and that was 2 years ago.
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We didnt pay 30m, get your facts right. Your post is ridiculous and full of alternative facts.
 
I wonder if we are unsettling all these guys as a bit of payback for Zeki Fryers.

I don't care if we don't get any spurs players this summer, but fecking over Levy and forcing him to shell out more wages would be a victory in itself.

And if we do get Dier, or Walker, or anyone else, they'd walk into our team anyway.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Fabinho would better to go for simply for the fact we don't know if Dier wants to play midfield enough to force a move and even if he did, he'd cost an arm and a leg, potential fee vs quality would be much lower than someone like Fabinho.
The only thing I don't get is why posters say they don't want him... at all, like he'd not be an asset for us, taking the money out of the equation. He's exactly the type Mourinho will be looking for to anchor midfield for next season.
It's just obviously Fabinho would be the more astute target/purchase.
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Not that I disagree with you but the same could probably be said for Fabinho. We can't know if he wants to play MF that much considering he's been a RB throughout his career.
 
GazTheLegend said:
I wonder if we are unsettling all these guys as a bit of payback for Zeki Fryers.

I don't care if we don't get any spurs players this summer, but fecking over Levy and forcing him to shell out more wages would be a victory in itself.

And if we do get Dier, or Walker, or anyone else, they'd walk into our team anyway.
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Oh yes because Fryers has been an incredible signing for Spurs, dislodging Rose from that left back spot...
 
AP88 said:
It's not an assumption though, because his three years in the Premier League have shown him to have very good technique and an ability to keep the ball moving on the turf, something Henderson and Milner lack.
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If you think he has very good technique then I'll just say ok, everyone has a right to an opinion, I just disagree completely, in my view his technique is average.
 
Acole9 said:
Oh yes because Fryers has been an incredible signing for Spurs, dislodging Rose from that left back spot...
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I'm not implying that Zeki has been a great signing you utter spoon, more that the way in which Spurs took him from us was distasteful and I doubt Sir Alex has forgotten about it.
 
GlastonSpur said:
According to Transfermkt you did: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/morgan-schneiderlin/profil/spieler/56818

So what are the other supposed "alternative facts" in what I posted.
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The only site stating 30m and you pick them out, well done Glaston. I bet you searched for two hours

According to the BBC and every other proper news site, in the region of 25m. If you cant discuss it seriously, then dont reply.

20m is a fair price for Dier, but i hope he stays at your club. You deserve him.
 
Dier would be a great CDM for us. He could sit back and anchor the midfield allowing Pogba and Herrera to go forwards. He's not Carrick, but we don't need a carbon copy of Carrick, we need someone to protect our back 4 and start play from the back.
 
izec said:
The only site stating 30m and you pick them out, well done Glaston. I bet you searched for two hours

According to the BBC and every other proper news site, in the region of 25m. If you cant discuss it seriously, then dont reply.

20m is a fair price for Dier, but i hope he stays at your club. You deserve him.
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Actually, it was the first and only site I looked at. And by the way, I'm still waiting for an answer to my question: what were the other supposed "alternative facts" concerning Pogba and Martial in my earlier post?
 
GlastonSpur said:
Actually, it was the first and only site I looked at. And by the way, I'm still waiting for an answer to my question: what were the other supposed "alternative facts" concerning Pogba and Martial in my earlier post?
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The Martial fee is obviously fishing for arguments. You obviously stated with add ons. I would have no issues paying 10m for Dier + 30m add ons, part of it performance related and part of it winning the league, getting nominated for ballon d'or etc..
For you the glass is always half empty.
 
Watch us spend £40m on Dier and Barca spend £60m on Verratti.
 
Raees said:
Rakitic. He can't do the Busquets/Iniesta role.
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He can play the busquets role, as Barcelona depend more on holding possession and dont really use a true DM. It all depends on who the new coach is and who the other two players are.

Whichever way, all 3 of them need to be replaced.
 
Raees said:
Watch us spend £40m on Dier and Barca spend £60m on Verratti.
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Can't see PSG letting Veratti leave for such a low price, especially after seeing us getting Pogba for 89m. They'll ask for a similar price. They have no reason to sell him so they'll never sell him that cheap.
 
el3mel said:
Can't see PSG letting Veratti leave for such a low price, especially after seeing us getting Pogba for 89m. They'll ask for a similar price. They have no reason to sell him so they'll never sell him that cheap.
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I don't think he'd go that low, it was more a tongue in cheek comment about how we buy dross for big money and our european rivals seem to get genuine world class talent for relatively low prices.
 
Don't want.

Spurs will fleece us for a player who can't really get into their team. He's not bad, but certainly over-rated for the obvious reason of being an Englishman who isn't bang average.

Finally, I saw a funny comment in the Press Gossip thread, apparently we've 'turned his head'.

You'd need an 'ucking allan key to do that.
 
izec said:
The Martial fee is obviously fishing for arguments. You obviously stated with add ons. I would have no issues paying 10m for Dier + 30m add ons, part of it performance related and part of it winning the league, getting nominated for ballon d'or etc..
For you the glass is always half empty.
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Even if Spurs were minded to sell, which I don't think we are, you're not living in real world if you think £30m would any near enough to persuade Levy to let go a player who shows great promise and signed a new 5 year contract in September.
 
Has something happened for this thread to have hundreds of comments over the last couple of days (cant be arsed to trawl all through it!).

Eric Dier would be an incredibly underwhelming signing. If we need a player of Diers ilk then promote one from the academy. Give TFM the minutes.
 
Devil may care said:
If you think he has very good technique then I'll just say ok, everyone has a right to an opinion, I just disagree completely, in my view his technique is average.
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And I'll agree that your opinion is just as valid as mine.

What I will say is though, Dier can 'look' clumsy because of his size; he's about 6'4 and runs awkwardly, but his actual kicking technique is very clean.

Hopefully you'll get to see it in close proximity next season.
 
Camilo said:
I dunno, he's a young guy, and he looks like a winner. Playing for a club that's not won anything doesn't really mean anything.
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How does he look like a winner? Is it aesthetics? His jaw?
For someone who people talk about as decent, but not with great ability, saying he looks like a winner just comes across as weird.
 
Ødegaard said:
How does he look like a winner? Is it aesthetics? His jaw?
For someone who people talk about as decent, but not with great ability, saying he looks like a winner just comes across as weird.
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Well that is now the type of talk that now dominates the main forum.
 
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