Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."

Do you want United to sign Eric Dier?

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I like him, seems really disciplined wouldn't mind it one bit if we signed him and he'll only get better in my opinion.
 
I think he's a good purchase and what United needs. A disciplined holding midfielder to free Pogba and Herrera.
 
Feel almost exactly the same way about Dier as I did about Carrick. Neat, tidy, can pass and is disciplined.

Remains to be seen if he can take that extra step that Carrick did and control football matches at the highest level.
 
Vito Corleone said:
Think this signing would be pointless. I would understand if he was homegrown but he's not even that.
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Why pointless? hes big tall and strong, has enough mobility about him, would come in and immediately anchor our midfield really easily, hes good in the air and good passing range about him while very young.
i'd have him, the only issue and its a big one... is simply we shouldnt be paying the idiotic fee Levy would demand.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Why pointless? hes big tall and strong, has enough mobility about him, would come in and immediately anchor our midfield really easily, hes good in the air and good passing range about him while very young.
i'd have him, the only issue and its the main one is we shouldnt be paying the idiotic fee Levy would demand.
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So what? He doesn't have the necessary footballing IQ to be a top top player who can contribute to going deep in the CL and winning league titles.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Why pointless? hes big tall and strong, has enough mobility about him, would come in and immediately anchor our midfield really easily, hes good in the air and good passing range about him while very young.
i'd have him, the only issue and its a big one... is simply we shouldnt be paying the idiotic fee Levy would demand.
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Pointless was the wrong word. It would be a waste of money IMO. There are others already better than him for cheaper.
 
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VorZakone said:
So what? He doesn't have the necessary footballing IQ to be a top top player who can contribute to going deep in the CL and winning league titles.
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Because the bit you highlighted are exactly the qualities Mourinho looks for, big, tall strong and athletic as well as can play a bit, he'd suit a Mourinho team.


Vito Corleone said:
Pointless was the wrong word. It would be a waste of money IMO. There are others already better than him for cheaper..
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Fair enough.
 
I think he'd do well for us. It all depends on Spurs' asking price - if they play their usual tricks, then it's probably not worth the long drawn-out hassle over the summer.
 
Surely Spurs will just ask for stupid money? He's not exactly out of favour there.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
Not sure why relevant?

I think Dier's a good player but from the three of Dembele, Wanyama and him - he would be my last choice
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Because our coach is Portuguese? And he's better than Dembelé who has to be one of the most overrated players around at the moment.
 
TwoSheds said:
Because our coach is Portuguese? And he's better than Dembelé who has to be one of the most overrated players around at the moment.
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He's absolutely not better than Dembele. Nor Wanyama. He's easily the weakest of their three central midfielders.
 
He will be an upgrade from Fellaini plus he will can cover for Smalling and Jones when they both injure each other during the busy period!
 
Riz said:
Surely Spurs will just ask for stupid money? He's not exactly out of favour there.
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I don't think we'll ask for any money, because I doubt Poch will sanction the sale.
 
We cannot start negotiations with spurs. It would only end at us having to pay something close to a WR fee just for the sake of it.
 
He's looks like a winner to me. We've already got a team full of footballers and we're shite.
 
Nate Dogg said:
He will be an upgrade from Fellaini plus he will can cover for Smalling and Jones when they both injure each other during the busy period!
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One of them will be sold and we will bring in another CB. Issues solved with Tuanzebe possibly also there.
 
An Irish Red said:
We sold Schneiderlin because he wasn't good enough for us so why would we then buy an English version for a massively inflated price?

The 'people just don't want him because he's English' argument is nonsensical as well. I doubt anyone in this forum would be opposed to us signing his teammates Kane or Ali.
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Exactly, that argument is so silly, the reason most don't want him is the same reason they didn't want the likes of Henderson and Milner, technically and athletically average players.
 
TwoSheds said:
Because our coach is Portuguese? And he's better than Dembelé who has to be one of the most overrated players around at the moment.
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It's not like Mou struggles to communicate with English players though...was genuinely curious why it was listed as a positive attribute.

Dembele is underrated because it's a non sexy role - always the one who crops up in Spurs player interviews as best player in the squad. One of the few players I genuinely think would get into any PL team.
 
I don't really get why people are using Wanyama and Dembele as a comparison when they play different roles because different roles entail different responsibilities. Given the rarity of true holding DM's, his age, EPL experience, and his added experitise as a CB on the best defensive team in the league I wouldn't mind getting him. I still think we should pursue Fabinho first though.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
It's not like Mou struggles to communicate with English players though...was genuinely curious why it was listed as a positive attribute.

Dembele is underrated because it's a non sexy role - always the one who crops up in Spurs player interviews as best player in the squad. One of the few players I genuinely think would get into any PL team.
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He's better than Fellaini. Just.
 
AP88 said:
Spurs have embraced that pro-British philosophy, and it's taken them to the pinnacle of English football on a relative pauper's budget.

United ignored Dele Alli despite him destroying the midfield; SAF would have taken him home from
Milton Keynes that night.

Leicester won the league with 5 British starters last year; every team that succeeds accommodates a core of domestic players on the pitch.

Identity is the most important element of success.
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Ive said thia before United under Fergie would have known about Ali and they didnt act. That night MK Dons twatted us wasnt his first game ever. Uniteds scouts slipped up on that one.
 
Ramshock said:
Im not hearing any valid reason why Spurs would sell him. @GlastonSpur ?
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There is no valid reason why we would sell him, he is an extremely valuable player in our squad due to his ability to play several positions and also because it is Dier's ability to move effortlessly from central defense into midfield that means we can play 3 at the back. The only reason we would sell him imo would be if Dier has expressed frustration about not playing in midfield more and is looking a move - there have been no quotes from the player that have suggested this however I guess it is plausible. I think Walker could leave this summer as he is relatively replaceable in the squad, Dier would be much more difficult to replace.
 
balaks said:
There is no valid reason why we would sell him, he is an extremely valuable player in our squad due to his ability to play several positions and also because it is Dier's ability to move effortlessly from central defense into midfield that means we can play 3 at the back. The only reason we would sell him imo would be if Dier has expressed frustration about not playing in midfield more and is looking a move - there have been no quotes from the player that have suggested this however I guess it is plausible. I think Walker could leave this summer as he is relatively replaceable in the squad, Dier would be much more difficult to replace.
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That sums it up well kiddo
 
The thing is I get that people might prefer us to sign someone else, but what I don't get is why people open themselves up to make them look like absolute arses if in two months time we do and even bigger arses 12 months later if we do and he ends up a decent signing. It works with people, I guess, who declare a signing a nailed on success if he isn't.

I don't get why the rush to be seen to be the most absolute definitive about it. It's as if people see that others have been absolutely embarrassed by premature declarations of how awful (or indeed brilliant) a rumoured signing will be and think: "This guy thinks he looks a bit of a dick retorspectively? He's got nothing on me..."

Genuinely don't get it.
 
Oscie said:
The thing is I get that people might prefer us to sign someone else, but what I don't get is why people open them up to make themselves look like absolute arses if in two months time we do and even bigger arses 12 months later if we do and he ends up a decent signing. It works with people, I guess, who declare a signing a nailed on success if he isn't.

I don't get why the rush to be seen to be the most absolute definitive about it. It's as if people see that others have been absolutely embarrassed by premature declarations of how awful (or indeed brilliant) a rumoured signing will be and think: "This guy thinks he looks a bit of a dick retorspectively? He's got nothing on me..."

Genuinely don't get it.
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People are obsessed with 'big names' or players doing well in other leagues and tend to downplay the attributes of good players playing in the Premiership mainly because seeing more of them week in and week out takes the excitment and shine off them as prospective signings.
 
Or people just see that the player in question is not better than the players who start for us already, and if we want to improve, that's exactly what we need, for the upcoming players to be better than our current options. If not, we're leaving ourselves in place where we currently are, that is with a lot of players who are sub-quality to what we need and we have problems offloading them as we throw stupid money at average players.

Nevermind the repeated ad infinitum opinion of our fellow Spurs' fan that they've got no intention of selling him.
 
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Kostur said:
Or people just see that the player in question is not better than the players who start for us already, and if we want to improve, that's exactly what we need, for the upcoming players to be better than our current options. If not, we're leaving ourselves in place where we currently are, that is with a lot of players who are sub-quality to what we need and we have problems offloading them as we throw stupid money at average players.

Nevermind the repeated ad infinitum opinion of our fellow Spurs' fan that they've got no intention of selling him.
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He's clearly better than Fellaini or current Carrick. Not even a debate.
 
Ramshock said:
Im not hearing any valid reason why Spurs would sell him. @GlastonSpur ?
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Yeah, I tend to agree.

Originally, given Wanyama's arrival, I thought that maybe Spurs would sell Dier if a huge offer arrived. But he's proved himself so versatile and useful - first choice right-sided CB in a back 3 (which has become our favoured formation) + DM cover/competition for Wanyama + emergency RB if needed in a back 4 formation - that I now don't see Poch being willing to sanction a sale.

And we certainly have no need to sell him: he signed a new 5-year contract only 8 months ago
 
balaks said:
Not sure why the Carrick comparison is even valid, other than them both being English. They are totally different players.
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I agree with you 100%, some people insist on the complete opposite though, vide this thread or the transfer tweets one.
 
Can't say I've ever watched Dier and thought he was remotely similar to Carrick. What is it, other than the obvious English midfielder at Spurs, that causes the comparison?
 
I don't think we need to replace Carrick's passing range, we did that with Pogba.
 
Nick7 said:
Can't say I've ever watched Dier and thought he was remotely similar to Carrick. What is it, other than the obvious English midfielder at Spurs, that causes the comparison?
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No idea, it's an extremely lazy comparison to make and is completely misplaced.
 
He's more Gareth Barry than Carrick, the player who kept Carrick out of the team under England's most accomplished manager, Capello and was a key element in City's transition into a team that could compete at the top of the Premier League.

He's strong, tactically aware in occupying the space in front of the defence, with a an underrated, metronomic passing game and ability to commit clever fouls when necessary.

Barry neutralised Toure's many defensive flaws, that only became glaringly apparently once he left; Dier could be that player for Pogba.
 
balaks said:
No idea, it's an extremely lazy comparison to make and is completely misplaced.
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I remember some Pogba/Vieira comparisons that were made a few years back. It reminds me of them. Odd and lazy comparisons, both.
 
AP88 said:
He's more Gareth Barry than Carrick, the player who kept Carrick out of the team under England's most accomplished manager, Capello and was a key element in City's transition into a team that could compete at the top of the Premier League.

He's strong, tactically aware in occupying the space in front of the defence, with a an underrated, metronomic passing game and ability to commit clever fouls when necessary.

Barry neutralised Toure's many defensive flaws, that only became glaringly apparently once he left; Dier could be that player for Pogba.
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That sounds about as silly as suggesting that Poop/LVG should be thanked for Spanish/German WCs.
 
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