Strong, quick, athletic, not bad on the ball. Last year statistically one of the hardest (I think THE hardest) player to beat in 1v1s. Promising yet still a bit rash, loves a slide tackle. Not sure about his heading ability, and needs to improve on passing from the back. Also seems to have some concentration lapses in him. But he is only 22, and incredibly promising according to some.
Eric Bailly | BBC say signing is imminent
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Not bad on the ball is pushing it, good at carrying it out from the back but a poor distributor by all accounts.
Our Sakho?
Wasn't Sanches' price almost double of what we are going to pay Bailly?
I might be way off here but after watching that highlights video I think he reminds me a bit of a young Ramos.
If he can "mature" like the current Ramos then we're in for a treat.
If he can "mature" like the current Ramos then we're in for a treat.
Sanches €35m and Bertie Bailly €39m apparently. Although if Sanches wins the ballon d'Or I'm sure he'd end up more expensive.
The "outrage" the Sanches transfer caused was over the reported 60/80 million fees.
What a meteoric rise!
He's 22, but had only 1 full season in La Liga, yet joined Espanyol aged 17.
Makes you wonder why no one felt him good enough 3 years ago aged 19.
He's 22, but had only 1 full season in La Liga, yet joined Espanyol aged 17.
Makes you wonder why no one felt him good enough 3 years ago aged 19.
Sanches eventually went for 35M because it was Bayern. If we had gone for him, we would have been ripped proper as almost all deals happen when it comes to Utd.
Just looked him up on transfermarket------value 6m!
It will be interesting playing will two really quick centre backs. Will possibly give everyone a lot more licence to bomb forward knowing we have the pace of Smalling, Bailly and Shaw to recover.
I did that too, just being in the Utd squad now will add another 10m.
I did think Jose would try and bring stones into Utd but that seems dead know with bailly being brought in
I actually think the opposite, good defenders are rare these days and you need to dig into your pocket to get one when he becomes available. Bailly looks like a great prospect, he's been linked with several big clubs, paying anything around £25m for him is basically going rate.
Total fee for Sanchez is almost 80 min euros including all the clauses in it.
The 40 mil euros for Bailley includes all the clauses too.
As I understand it, it's not that no-one felt him good enough at 19 (indeed, the man who signed him said in an interview that he arrived at Espanyol ready to play in regards to his talent), but that once signed, he lost 10 months of his competitive career waiting for his paperwork to go through, and then worked his way up through the youth and B teams. He's been part of a first team squad in La Liga since he was 20 years old, which given his relatively late start in elite football coaching and his 10 month delay, is pretty impressive.
And of course all this is setting aside the fact that 22 isn't old, and the expectation that all top players should be setting the world alight at 18 and 19 is unrealistic.
I'm still a bit wary. People claimed Managala was the next best thing, and after finally watching him, he really doesn't look any good. Remember reports saying Moyes didn't consider him good enough, comparing him to a cross between Boumsong and Yobo which was laughed at.
Otamendi was the last big thing too..
Otamendi was the last big thing too..
This might be the plan, Manolas from Roma, the player we were linked before signing this guy, is also lightning-quick.
22 year old?
But, but Mourinho hates young players and will never give them a chance.
But, but Mourinho hates young players and will never give them a chance.
He wasn't able to play for 2 years because of paperwork issues.
Everyone should be wary. Being a talent and being successful in PL are 2 different things.
And just like any big name we have bought, we wait and watch.
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This is largely going unnoticed....
Don't know enough of him. Seems like a pacy chap. Ivorian - not too exited about that. Then we'll be without him 1 month every 2nd year, during the African cup of nations of whatever they call it. We've never been bothered by that Chelsea, City and Arsenal-cup before.
Some people here are never happy. If one thing Mourinho knows it's defenders, just trust him. Did you know who Vidic was before those famous world cup?
Car crash of a player in the PL.
I am very excited by this signing. He is extremely quick, strong and good in the air. Exactly what we need at the back.
RB --- Smalling --- Bailly --- Shaw
Looks good on paper. Jose has obviously been watching the lad for a while and I always trust him when it comes to defenders. Seems like we're not messing around and looking to get deals done quickly. It's not even mid-June yet!
RB --- Smalling --- Bailly --- Shaw
Looks good on paper. Jose has obviously been watching the lad for a while and I always trust him when it comes to defenders. Seems like we're not messing around and looking to get deals done quickly. It's not even mid-June yet!
why? I haven't seen much of him outside of youtube so I'm curious
I don't understand judging if we've overpaid or gotten a bargain before seeing him play at least one full season for us, especially since part of the fee is based on his potential. Martial is the best example of that.
With the money coming into the Premier League this season we'll be seeing a lot of overinflated transfer fees, it won't just be United.
First day here on the mains so, Hi everyone and all that
.Now, I am really surprised by the number of people willing to say no to this player because he is from Africa. Maybe because I am from there and it feels personal.
My question is to anyone using the 'he is from Africa' line, does this apply to all African players? You wouldn't want Auba, Mahrez, Mane, Peak Etoo, Peak Drogba, Peak Toure on the team because they might go away for at most three weeks every two years? Or is it only particular players.
From the little I have seen of him, he wil be a beast if the rough edges are coached out of him. And if there is one coach I would trust to take a young defender and turn him into a hardworking reliable beast, its Mourinho.
Ps. Even if the AFCON was held every four months, he would still clock more minutes than jones.
.Now, I am really surprised by the number of people willing to say no to this player because he is from Africa. Maybe because I am from there and it feels personal.My question is to anyone using the 'he is from Africa' line, does this apply to all African players? You wouldn't want Auba, Mahrez, Mane, Peak Etoo, Peak Drogba, Peak Toure on the team because they might go away for at most three weeks every two years? Or is it only particular players.
From the little I have seen of him, he wil be a beast if the rough edges are coached out of him. And if there is one coach I would trust to take a young defender and turn him into a hardworking reliable beast, its Mourinho.
Ps. Even if the AFCON was held every four months, he would still clock more minutes than jones.
He has said they don't want him because he "is from Africa"?
If someone has, I think it's more to do with being absent for a month every two years to play in the ACN.
Not a problem for me.
If someone has, I think it's more to do with being absent for a month every two years to play in the ACN.
Not a problem for me.
Doesn't this go back to saf era where he refuses To buy African players because of the afcon?
Doesn't bother me at all, other than the normal epl schedule there's rarely any meaningful games between Jan-feb.
Has anyone said that? Personally it doesn't worry me. We're likely to have our other defenders out of action for even longer, I'm sure we can afford him a month every 2 years.
This is an excellent point I think. It does seem that the ACON gets mentioned in regards to some players but not others. Over the last 18 months or so there have been lots of posts on this forum saying what good signings Aubameyang, Mahrez & Mane would be - no consideration given to the ACON but because we are signing a lesser-known player it appears to be a concern to some.
I mean, yes, it is not ideal. I'm no fan of international breaks during the season at all, let alone an entire tournament but obviously it cannot be played during the summer so has to be when it is. But it's workable and if the player is good enough then it's a no brainer signing them.
I didn't agree with it when SAF avoided African players due to the ACON and still don't. Give me 8 months of the season with a Drogba/Toure/Auba etc in the team for example and 1 without rather than no Drogba/Toure/Auba at all.
One or two AFCON-players is OK. More than that, we'll be playing 3-4 games every other year without several members of our squad. The most important thing however is how well they perform for us. Blind did OK this season, but I'm more than satisfied if we replace him with a strong, pacy CB.
I suppose it goes back to, if we've got a player excelling in his position week in week out, and then we have to lose him for potentially 5-6 matches, it's a negative; especially in defence where communication and understanding in defensive partnerships are huge parts of that position. I've always been of a mind that you should try and play the same back line in every game if possible.
That being said, Phil Jones has had a lifetime's worth of AFCONs.
From the limited amount I've seen him, he looks extremely raw, but with a lot of potential. Hopefully he can fulfill his potential and become a Vidic-esque player for us.
Slightly underwhelmed but will keep faith in Jose knowing his shit. I'm personally more excited about the attacking talent we bring in because Rooney is just so overrated in midfield, Mata and Lingard are certainly not our answer for the right side of attack and we still have the slowest midfield this side of a legends charity game.
it's true tbh. i run pl season simulations in my head that take in all kind of permutations and scenarios to see who would be suited to playing in the pl, even for which teams, it's that in depth.
after 3,563 real life sims, the only time he was in the top 5 defenders over the course of 38 games, by any measurable criterion (interceptions, tackles etc) was if all our home games were played with moon gravity instead of earth gravity. we only conceded 1 freak own goal that year as all opposition players floated off into space as they weren't wearing special moon boots. memphis also flew away as alex ferguson (who was managing us again in this sim) nobbled his boots to get rid of him.
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