TheMagicFoolBus
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Imagine if he was paired with another 120m midfielder yet our best midfielder would still be Mctominay.
That’s essentially Chelsea with Gallagher
Gallagher is by some distance our worst midfielder
Imagine if he was paired with another 120m midfielder yet our best midfielder would still be Mctominay.
That’s essentially Chelsea with Gallagher
He already wrote history. That was his Douglas luiz moment. Mount will score the winning goal in the FA Cup final.Crap player talking crap at Mount over a fluke win. Would be nowhere without the world cup he got carried in.
Hopefully does just enough to stay there, being a fan favourite. I would be genuinely worried if you went and signed someone like Neves.Gallagher is by some distance our worst midfielder
Hopefully does just enough to stay there, being a fan favourite. I would be genuinely worried if you went and signed someone like Neves.
You're missing a few things.
One plays at the most dysfunctional, chaotic club in the world.
One plays under a manager who has total trust, control and love of all the other players, fans and staff members.
The most relevant thing you are missing about their price difference is that one had a buyout clause.
When they are both in the same team, Mac Allister doesn't outshine Enzo by any significant degree does he?
Mac Allister is a really good player in a really good team. Enzo is a really good player in a complete clusterfeck.
I'm not sure about this to be honest. Now Mac Allister has a lot more games and experience, so it's a harsh starting point to be comparing him and Enzo to begin with. The price drives a lot of these discussions and comparisons, and it's a bit of a nonsense stick to be beaten with as a young player because most of that fee is buying what you will be in 3/4 seasons (generally speaking).With Enzo he’s honestly had an up and down season. One of our better players in most games but as others have said it’s a dysfunctional club and dysfunctional team. Think of it this way, remember when Tuchel over from Lampard and all of a sudden over the next 18 month players like Rudiger, Christensen, Chilwell, Mount, Kovacic and Jorginho became some of the best players in the league in their positions. We’ve been stuck in the Lampard before Tuchel phase for 2 years now.
Someone was gloating about Mac Allister. If roles were reversed and Enzo was signed by Liverpool for £100+ million and we signed Mac Allister that same Liverpool fan would be in here talking about ‘that’s why you spend the big bucks’.
The price is the price. There’s nothing Enzo can do about that.
I'm not sure about this to be honest. Now Mac Allister has a lot more games and experience, so it's a harsh starting point to be comparing him and Enzo to begin with. The price drives a lot of these discussions and comparisons, and it's a bit of a nonsense stick to be beaten with as a young player because most of that fee is buying what you will be in 3/4 seasons (generally speaking).
However, purely at this point in time I think Mac Allister is superior to Enzo. I appreciate that MacAllister plays in a functioning team, but he has that extra coolness and composure to his game. He has the ability to dictate, slow things down, open defences and find the final pass more often than not. He's also a gritty little fecker. Enzo could be all of those things, but he's only showing flashes here and there.. like most young players.
I don't think any Liverpool fan would swap for Enzo for Mac Allister, not even close. I definitely wouldn't, but I really rate him as a player so maybe that's just me.
Yeah look it all comes down to difference of opinion, and I don't watch Enzo week in week out like you do so have to respect your view on it too. However, I will argue that top quality does tend to stand out regardless, or else we wouldn't be seeing Palmer have the season he is having? But he plays in more of a free role so the non structure of some games probably suit him.All that may be true but there’s very little chance Mac Allister would look this good at Chelsea and there’s every chance Enzo would look like a world beater in Klopp’s midfield.
The attributes you listed for Mac Allister are almost exactly the things Enzo is good at. I guarantee you if roles were reversed people would be saying there’s no chance I’d swap Enzo for Mac Allister.
Do you think Real Madrid would have bothered chasing Rudiger has Tuchel had not revitalised his career? The player he looked like under Lampard was a player headed towards a move to West Ham or back to Roma. Coaching and team structure is hugely important in how we should judge players is all I’m saying and a lot of these Chelsea players are at a huge disadvantage when they’re being compared to Arsenal and Liverpool players.
Yeah look it all comes down to difference of opinion, and I don't watch Enzo week in week out like you do so have to respect your view on it too. However, I will argue that top quality does tend to stand out regardless, or else we wouldn't be seeing Palmer have the season he is having? But he plays in more of a free role so the non structure of some games probably suit him.
I thought on Thursday night Enzo was poor considering United tend to play with no midfield structure, and I guess I would have expected a player of his quality to get on the ball a bit more and try and dictate things.
Granted, it was like watching a basketball match in the end so the midfields of each team looked like they were trying to complete the bleep test instead of playing football.
Whatever about Enzo, because I do think he's a quality player, it is surprising to see Caicedo look a shadow of the player he was at Brighton, because Brighton do also play a risky game where there was a lot of demands on Caicedo and Mac Allister to cover a lot of ground out of posession, so he should look better than what he is showing currently.Palmer is to an extent allowed to roam the pitch as he pleases. The lack of structure almost suits him. I’ve seen City fans say he never get away with playing the way he does at Chelsea under Pep.
That United was a prime example of Poch is setting both Enzo and Caicedo up to fail. No structure. No protection. They’re asked to cover oceans of space with little protection in front of them or behind them. It’s one of the reasons I’m desperate for Poch to go. He’s completely wasting what he could be one of the best midfields in the league.
All that may be true but there’s very little chance Mac Allister would look this good at Chelsea and there’s every chance Enzo would look like a world beater in Klopp’s midfield.
The attributes you listed for Mac Allister are almost exactly the things Enzo is good at. I guarantee you if roles were reversed people would be saying there’s no chance I’d swap Enzo for Mac Allister.
Do you think Real Madrid would have bothered chasing Rudiger has Tuchel had not revitalised his career? The player he looked like under Lampard was a player headed towards a move to West Ham or back to Roma. Coaching and team structure is hugely important in how we should judge players is all I’m saying and a lot of these Chelsea players are at a huge disadvantage when they’re being compared to Arsenal and Liverpool players.
Jesus what a load of drivel. Are there year end Caf awards for silliest post? And if so, can anyone point me towards the nomination form?
All that may be true but there’s very little chance Mac Allister would look this good at Chelsea and there’s every chance Enzo would look like a world beater in Klopp’s midfield.
The attributes you listed for Mac Allister are almost exactly the things Enzo is good at. I guarantee you if roles were reversed people would be saying there’s no chance I’d swap Enzo for Mac Allister.
Do you think Real Madrid would have bothered chasing Rudiger has Tuchel had not revitalised his career? The player he looked like under Lampard was a player headed towards a move to West Ham or back to Roma. Coaching and team structure is hugely important in how we should judge players is all I’m saying and a lot of these Chelsea players are at a huge disadvantage when they’re being compared to Arsenal and Liverpool players.
You should check this out, he is getting absolutely roasted.How is this guy going so under the radar for being so crap at a 120m price tag?! He should be getting absolutely roasted.
You cannot be serious.
Does he still start for Argentina?
Apparently him and his Argie mates singing a racist song following the copa win.
Upsetting to hear that our Licha was singing it.Indeed they did. It's pretty much half the squad (including some very big names) singing it.
I bet it'll get brushed under the carpet otherwise they'd have to ban about 15 players.
Upsetting to hear that our Licha was singing it.
From what I've been reading anti black sentiment is pretty normal in that country, but you would think a lot of these players coming out of that bubble and playing in Europe in multi ethnic teams views would change.Upsetting to hear that our Licha was singing it.
Yeah. Very weird how they were all singing a bigoted song.It was pretty much all of them.
Weirdos just won the Copa America and they are singing about black French players?
Very unlike the Argentines that.Yeah. Very weird how they were all singing a bigoted song.
With a sprinkle of transphobia too.It was pretty much all of them.
Weirdos just won the Copa America and they are singing about black French players?
And Ugochukwu, and Fofana, and Sarr, and....It was pretty much all of them.
Weirdos just won the Copa America and they are singing about black French players?
It's only racist and anti trans depending on the angle you view it from. To them it isn't, to us it is. Each to their own, you can't police the world, otherwise that makes you a dictator.Apparently him and his Argie mates singing a racist and anti trans song following the copa win.
It's only racist and anti trans depending on the angle you view it from. To them it isn't, to us it is. Each to their own, you can't police the world, otherwise that makes you a dictator.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. It’s purely a matter of perspective, nothing more.
It's only racist and anti trans depending on the angle you view it from. To them it isn't, to us it is. Each to their own, you can't police the world, otherwise that makes you a dictator.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Its purely a matter of perspective, nothing more.
It's only racist and anti trans depending on the angle you view it from. To them it isn't, to us it is. Each to their own, you can't police the world, otherwise that makes you a dictator.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Its purely a matter of perspective, nothing more.
The song also calls Mbappe a f*ggot.With a sprinkle of transphobia too.
It's only racist and anti trans depending on the angle you view it from. To them it isn't, to us it is. Each to their own, you can't police the world, otherwise that makes you a dictator.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Its purely a matter of perspective, nothing more.