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Still makes zero sense, they played France then but not nowIt originated from the 2022 World Cup, sang by Argentinian fans
Still makes zero sense, they played France then but not nowIt originated from the 2022 World Cup, sang by Argentinian fans
Still makes zero sense, they played France then but not now
its common in people who come from a culture/nation of racism to look down on races not the same as yours to the point they become obsessed with it and it’s all they can talk about and it’s just constantly on their mind.Also, why the feck they are talking about France and Mbappe? What are they actually trying to do here after winning Copa America? Is this what they do after winning a match or a tournament? To sing about other nationalities and players of colour which has no relation to the competition they participated in? What’s going on?
Found it hard to make out who’s who when watching it. Hopefully it doesn’t circle back to us as we could do without some drama at the club for a while.From the video you can't actually make out them singing it. Garnacho is a bit of a loner on that team and looked like he was sitting at the back by himself. Not sure about Martinez. Unless other videos come out I don't think it will be a big problem for us.
Basically the last 10 seconds of the vid that's out is the racist chant and you really can't make out any of the voices other than Enzo, who's Insta live it's on. The first 30 or so seconds is a chant about the Argentina national team (the part where you can see Martinez singing).
It seems like racism is deeply ingrained in South American culture unfortunately. For some reason the players have thought this song is a) funny and b) acceptable which is why the continue to sing it, and it’s neither.
Still makes zero sense, they played France then but not now
Great point.Yes, but, it's particularly prevalent in nations that are vast majority white. Like Argentina and Uruguay.
They're also dumb as feck. They're making jokes about descendants of Cameroonians and Nigerians having French passports. As if their nation isn't full of descendants of Spanish and Italians colonisers.
They're proud of the fact that they're descendants of Europeans. I had the unfortunate experience of travelling on an overnight train full of Argentinians at the 2018 World Cup and every footie conversation I had with the randoms on the train ended up with them bragging about being superior because they are more European than the English. I think a lot of them just really don't like black people, frankly.Yes, but, it's particularly prevalent in nations that are vast majority white. Like Argentina and Uruguay.
They're also dumb as feck. They're making jokes about descendants of Cameroonians and Nigerians having French passports. As if their nation isn't full of descendants of Spanish and Italians colonisers.
I think that says a lot: he starts trying to cut out the recording as they’re singing the song. So he clearly knows it was wrong. Still stupid enough to not clip it well enough to remove it from Instagram though.From the video you can't actually make out them singing it. Garnacho is a bit of a loner on that team and looked like he was sitting at the back by himself. Not sure about Martinez. Unless other videos come out I don't think it will be a big problem for us.
Basically the last 10 seconds of the vid that's out is the racist chant and you really can't make out any of the voices other than Enzo, who's Insta live it's on. The first 30 or so seconds is a chant about the Argentina national team (the part where you can see Martinez singing).
Footballers are really thick. Hopefully Martinez and Garnacho didn’t participate in that.
I think that says a lot: he starts trying to cut out the recording as they’re singing the song. So he clearly knows it was wrong. Still stupid enough to not clip it well enough to remove it from Instagram though.
Surprisingly he didn't. According to reports he was trying to light an effigy of Mbappe at the front of the bus at the time.I'd be very surprised if Emi Martinez did not participate given his past lack of class.
Surprisingly he didn't. According to reports he was trying to light an effigy of Mbappe at the front of the bus at the time.
Yeah, but those were white.Yes, but, it's particularly prevalent in nations that are vast majority white. Like Argentina and Uruguay.
They're also dumb as feck. They're making jokes about descendants of Cameroonians and Nigerians having French passports. As if their nation isn't full of descendants of Spanish and Italians colonisers.
"Their dad is GermanCopying comment from soccer:
For reference, these are the full lyrics:
“Listen, spread the word;
They play in France, but they are all from Angola;
How nice it is! They are going to run;
They are ‘cometravas’* like fecking Mbappé;
Their mom is Nigerian;
Their dad, Cameroonian.
But in the document ...Nationality: French”.
*cometravas is a slang term that loosely translates to someone who likes fecking transgender people. Come means to eat which is used to talk about fecking someone and travas is short for transgender
^ from reddit, just adding a bit more explanation.
We (Germans) don’t claim him."Their dad is German
Their mother, Portuguese
But in the document ...Nationality: French”
Funny how it would never occur to any slow witted racist to sing this about Antoine Griezmann. Which shows you what It's really all about.
Not really, most of the descendant from europeans intermingled with the natives, and as a result the majority of the population is some shade of brown. People here call themselves white despite clearly having aboriginal/african blood mixed in.Isn't about 95% of Argentina from European descent? Racist people are silly.
Chelsea won't have the backbone to bin a 100m pound player, remember they stood by John Terry back in the day. They will condemn, fine him and move on from this.And in all honesty, probably another problem for Ten Hag/INEOS to deal with before the start of the season (and a handful of other clubs).
It’s a pretty serious issue and whatever Chelsea decide to do with Enzo will put pressure on other clubs to act in a similar way.
Not really talking about skin color, but about the fact that 97% of Argentina have European ancestors.Not really, most of the descendant from europeans intermingled with the natives, and as a result the majority of the population is some shade of brown. People here call themselves white despite clearly having aboriginal/african blood mixed in.
Which thinking about it makes the chant even worse.
Chelsea won't have the backbone to bin a 100m pound player, remember they stood by John Terry back in the day. They will condemn, fine him and move on from this.
I’m sure there are morality clauses in players contracts and it’s a new ownership group, but yeah I find it difficult to envision a scenario where Chelsea terminate the contract of a £100m signing.
Worse case scenario for Enzo, he’s slapped with a hefty fine and banned for x amount of games and then asked to publicly apologise and privately make nice with his black teammates.
Very interested to see the club's stance on this. Will they back him like Liverpool? Or will they hang him out to dry like you said, which could open the door to push for a move away to a CL club?I’m sure there are morality clauses in players contracts and it’s a new ownership group, but yeah I find it difficult to envision a scenario where Chelsea terminate the contract of a £100m signing. Sad as it is, I could definitely envision a scenario where Chelsea just bin the player if it was someone less valuable to the club like Petrovic or Casadei.
Worse case scenario for Enzo, he’s slapped with a hefty fine and banned for x amount of games and then asked to publicly apologise and privately make nice with his black teammates.
This seems impossible. You can’t sing things like this and then have the respect and friendship of those same people.
Chelsea would send out a message cutting ties and it would probably make the group stronger in doing so. Retaining the security and comfort of their black players is more important.
Could you explain in detail what you mean by that?These are the alleged lyrics:
“They play for France but they are from Angola
His mother is Nigerian,
His father Cameroonian,
But on the passport: French.”
If these are INDEED the actual lyrics. The world has gone made deeming it racist.
Very interested to see the club's stance on this. Will they back him like Liverpool? Or will they hang him out to dry like you said, which could open the door to push for a move away to a CL club?
These are the alleged lyrics:
“They play for France but they are from Angola
His mother is Nigerian,
His father Cameroonian,
But on the passport: French.”
If these are INDEED the actual lyrics. The world has gone made deeming it racist.
These are the alleged lyrics:
“They play for France but they are from Angola
His mother is Nigerian,
His father Cameroonian,
But on the passport: French.”
If these are INDEED the actual lyrics. The world has gone made deeming it racist.
Could you explain in detail what you mean
I truly don't believe such a chant rises to the level of racism. It's no different from say a bunch of international football fans from like Germany making fun of a Jack Grealish for playing for England yet his really Irish. If THAT wouldn't instantly be counted as racism. I fail to see how this one does rise to the bar.by that?