Enzo and Gakpo in Jan and we win the league. 
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Casemiro was in the works long before that
https://www.si.com/soccer/mancheste...eveals-knew-casemiro-manchester-united-months
That was the sporting side of Ajax being bellends. Antony told them when Overmars was still Director that he wanted to leave in the summer. But Overmars left almost immediately after because of scandal. Ajax's new co-directors Hamstra and Huntelaar cocked it up and the commercial side had to step in.
€120m is absolutely bananas even if the lad is great
Why didn't we just sign Enzo last summer? Could have got him for several times less what we will have to pay now. Same with Caicedo.
Yes it is
more money than sense or dick swinging it seems.Why didn't we just sign Enzo last summer? Could have got him for several times less what we will have to pay now. Same with Caicedo.
Would rather win a big transfer battle even if it bakrupts us than take a gamble on cheaper signings early and hope for the best
Enzo and Gakpo in Jan and we win the league.
Sounds like a clothing line
Benfic Is obviously playing hard ball , the lad is the biggest midfield talent out there and now you could consider him somewhat proven but I don't think any club is willing to cough up that much, madrid's midfielder is pretty much set and barca are broke, city is the same as Madrid.
I really think Benfica might overplaying their cards here.
I really think Benfica might overplaying their cards here.
That clause is madness but I do hope we manage to get him in somehow, preferably without the full clause.
Adding him to Casemiro and Bruno would give us arguably the most well balanced midfield in the land.
Shame we let him sign for cheap elsewhere just last winter when he was being looked at by European clubs out of River Plate. Either him or Alvarez from that side probably would've helped us finish that season a lot less terribly than we did.
Great player, not worth anywhere near that kind of money.
It might be my inner muppet kicking in but the lad is a monstrous talent, if Bellingham is worth much surely he no less either.
I'd take him over Bellingham tbh, has more to his game.
His performances in the World cup have been incredible as they were against PSG.
His performances in the World cup have been incredible as they were against PSG.
Why didn't we just sign Enzo last summer? Could have got him for several times less what we will have to pay now. Same with Caicedo.
But then we may not of signed Casemiro. Maybe this way we end up with him and Enzo and for that partnership, I’d happily pay 200mil. Not that it’ll happen like. It’s likely a pipe dream
Yeah Murtough apparently enquired earlier about his availability after Madrid signed Tchounameni, still the reality remains we were fleeced on the fee in a last minute-no-other-options-panic as we heard incessantly in briefings we were convinced De Jong would happen with Arnold and Murtough showing up in Barcelona and leaving empty handed.
Exactly Rola, I don't think I buy this link either smells like planted story from an agent to accelerate Liverpool into action.
How in the world can the club afford Enzo’s €120m lump sum release clause? It’s nice to dream, but I can’t see the board spending any material sums in this window
I would guess that it’s talks prior to the summer which have started already. These things take time. Often when a deal is done, talks started long before it. Not just with us involved.
The report doesn’t specifically mention January does it?
Yeah I was thinking where this money was coming from. Our finances weren't exactly looking rosy last I checked.
Do we already have wealthy owners lined up to take over?
Thank God we sacked that clown Rangnick. He only wanted us to sign Fernandez, Alvarez, Gvardiol and Laimer when they were priced at (relative) peanuts
Yeah who wanted Nkunku anyway....
and Luis Díaz too.
and for some reason our board placed trust on the whoever scout that told us that Amad is a wonderkid that worths buying at 30M
These Rangnick 'recommendations' are the new "Wenger was close to signing player X". Every month that passes we'll hear of another player he wanted us to sign.
Benfica rejected 100mil
Benfica have rejected a €100m bid for Enzo Fernandez, which they received yesterday. Benfica still holding out for €120m. The club that got rejected is still unknown, no one know who made the offer.
This shite cracks me up.
It won't stop too, amazing how much fanbase he has built in short stint. All it takes is "we want to sign this player" to win over so many fans, it is considered as "taking on owners".
I don’t believe this, besides no way we would spend this much, on top of the amount we spent just few months ago.. we also need a Ronaldo replacement ..
Bruno Andrade isn't the most reliable journo as far as non Brazilian players are concerned. And even then, he's got things wrong when he reported about United being on the brink of signing Fabinho in 2017.
And the 6 players listed below are the ones Rangnick wanted United to sign according to the interview he did with Christian Falk. And he doesn't mention any South American player with exception of Luis Diaz.
1.Luis Diaz made absolutely no sense due to him being a left sided player and us needing a right sided attacker.
2: Haaland wasn't going to join us from Dortmund.
3: Vlahovic according to Fabrizio Romano wanted to join Juventus and Juventus only.
4: Josko Gvardiol was never available for peanuts and was priced out of a move to Chelsea due to the transfer fee RB Leipzig were demanding, which was thought to be around €100m. We instead signed Lisandro Martinez for cheaper than what Gvardiol would've cost.
5: Nkunku as good as he's been for RB Leipzig in a fast transition play style wouldn't really be a ideal centre forward for ten Hag in a possession/positional play approach imo. And I think we as a club made the correct move in attempting to sign Benjamin Sesko who is a ideal fit as the central striker as far as attributes and potential growth is concerned.
6: Morata as a stop gap signing would've been fine on a short term loan but I very much doubt he would've made a difference.
The club might aswell come to me for advice on transfer targets rather than sign the players Rangnick was recommending us to sign.
And the 6 players listed below are the ones Rangnick wanted United to sign according to the interview he did with Christian Falk. And he doesn't mention any South American player with exception of Luis Diaz.
1.Luis Diaz made absolutely no sense due to him being a left sided player and us needing a right sided attacker.
2: Haaland wasn't going to join us from Dortmund.
3: Vlahovic according to Fabrizio Romano wanted to join Juventus and Juventus only.
4: Josko Gvardiol was never available for peanuts and was priced out of a move to Chelsea due to the transfer fee RB Leipzig were demanding, which was thought to be around €100m. We instead signed Lisandro Martinez for cheaper than what Gvardiol would've cost.
5: Nkunku as good as he's been for RB Leipzig in a fast transition play style wouldn't really be a ideal centre forward for ten Hag in a possession/positional play approach imo. And I think we as a club made the correct move in attempting to sign Benjamin Sesko who is a ideal fit as the central striker as far as attributes and potential growth is concerned.
6: Morata as a stop gap signing would've been fine on a short term loan but I very much doubt he would've made a difference.
The club might aswell come to me for advice on transfer targets rather than sign the players Rangnick was recommending us to sign.
I would wait on making signings that had good world cups because the hysteria will still be at an all time high for the next 6-9 months. I would not spend anywhere near €100m on this guy talk less of €120m. I would hold off on world cup signings till summer 2023 unless its someone who is clearly generational like Mbappe. If some other club swoops in for him at that price they can have him. Madness.
From what I've seen of Enzo which is mainly World cup games and YouTube videos. I know he can pass and I know he can win the ball, but how good is he under pressure. In the world cup, teams don't utilize the sort of tactics we see in the EPL, if he is good in that aspects I wouldn't mind the 120m fee, getting that caliber of midfielder in would take our game to another level.
He won the most balls and most passes of anyone on the field and was highly influential into around 5 chances in the WC final.
He also won young player of the tournament over Gvardiol.
I think he's pretty good under pressure.
If you mean under pressing too he showed against multiple opposition in the knockouts he's fine.
Amazing that people still use "Rangnick wanted us to sign player xyz" but never use the same defense for Ole. Ole wanted us to sign Haaland, Bellingham, Caicedo and few other young players. Doesn't mean he was right choice or should have been kept in some role at club.
People should let go of past, 100s of players will be linked every year and few of them will go on to become class players.
I'm talking Modric, Verratti type good, we need someone in the center you'll have to foul to get the ball off.
I'm only responding to this bit of your post as I agree with most of what you say.
Real Madrid didn't cast off or bin Casemiro, this is some bs narrative in the Caf, it's well known that Perez and Ancelotti wanted to keep Casemiro, but accepted his request to leave, Casemiro was a model pro and a great servant of the club, and he had great relationship with Perez, hence why Perez didn't stand in his way and let him go, and of course the fact that we offered 70m helped as well as the presence of young and talented CMs like Valverde and Tchouameni which softened the blow of an instrumental player like Casemiro leaving.
and yes, we are lucky he chose us.
Until we see a lot more sources, I'm not buying the links to us at all. and I am a total muppet.
The players Rangnick mentioned were mostly players that were identified by the RedBull scouting heads. And those players were signed to play in a way which was different to what ten Hag looks to implement. United were absolutely correct in not going with his suggestions, which were suggestions that could've been made by people on the Caf.
Isn't this the standard Benfica linking player to clubs to start bidding war going act..
The same shit happened with Nunez .. Liverpool fell for that one.
The same shit happened with Nunez .. Liverpool fell for that one.
No chance - this is just to drum up clicks and price. Liverpool will be the only club seriously in for him this window.
He didnt star in a world cup final at 21. If you dont think a bunch of top clubs are preparing a bunch of money for him, then which midfielders do you think they are doing that for?
Donny van de Beek?
Did you not see the Saudi Arabia vs Argentina game, or Japan etc?
There were some top pressing performances from teams in the world cup beyond anything in the premier league
Let's go for it!
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