It will be interesting. I bet you’re looking forward to watching who goes where given Arsenal won’t be competing for the premium players?
Enzo Fernández | signs for Chelsea
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It will be interesting. I bet you’re looking forward to watching who goes where given Arsenal won’t be competing for the premium players?
Brilliant young player but there is no way anybody is paying £100m for him at the moment
Sigh. I knew we were not going to get him but still would hurt to see him go to Liverpool and revitalize them, hopefully not.
I am getting an Enzo 24 replica Argentina jersey, cuz can't see it in United colors.
I am getting an Enzo 24 replica Argentina jersey, cuz can't see it in United colors.
Some people actually think Liverpool are spending 200m on Bellingham and Fernandez, ffs. That wouldn't even happen with a takeover, which hasn't even happened yet.
Why do people constantly believe media bullshit?
Why do people constantly believe media bullshit?
I agree, would you want the club to pay in the excess of 100M for him to sign him this winter?
I have to say, was impressed by him in the final, can see why a lot of people are interested.
Feel like we missed our chance last summer
I doubt he'd cost that much. But it would he a big fee and we'd have to outbid Liverpool/PSG/whoever and convince the player.
He looks to have loads of potential
If we believe the rumors, he has a release clause of €120M, and many clubs will want him, so whoever is going to sign him now, will take on a huge risk.
But I think he has a lot of potential, as you rightly said.
Do you feel there could be a shift in south American players specific Argentinians and Brazilians preferring to one to pl instead of barca and Madrid?
Well the Barca ship sailed a long time ago, given the turmoil there.
Anyone and their dog in Brazil/Argentina will advise their kid not to go there. Madrid are quite stacked for the foreseeable future so other destinations are not that improbable these days.
Benfica will point to the fee Madrid paid for Tchouameni and demand about £80m. Shame because he looks absolutely perfect for us and the type of midfielder we've missed since Scholes was in his pomp
Yeah, for sure. PL is regarded as the best league nowadays. Besides, before there was this prejudgement about it being too physical and not suit to players with goot technique. Now that has changed.
Enzo himself said he wants to play in PL.
Yet another one to add to the list of players we could’ve had for relative peanuts only to let another club sign him, then show an interest when it will cost us around 10x as much.
We keep missing on these talents because we don't have any space for them. We keep hoarding average players like Fred, VDB, and McTominay. We needed known quality, so we went for Eriksen and Casemiro.
Move some of them on, then we will be able to take a chance on these less known talents.
Whatever the fee, I think he'd be a mainstay in our midfield for the next 10 years if he stayed and would be a key component sorted. If that takes close to 100m, so be it. Of course we have to manage the budget, but yeah. We've spent big on so many who weren't worth i to, i have no doubt that Enzo would be worth it.
That's great to hear, hope we utilize the shif in perception to maximum, our record with Argentinan and South Americans in general is a bit iffy but never too late to change.
True to that, we should see a rise in south Americans to pl.
it is completely false that there is an agreement with @LFC or any other club for Enzo Fernández. There are no negotiations with any club.
@SLBenfica will only sell Enzo in January due to the rescission clause - 120 million.
@realmadrid is also interested.
Fcuk paying €120m for him, that's a joke number. €80m max. And I doubt Real Madrid wants him, they have a better record with Brazilian players. Argentinian and Dutch don't seem to have had much success at Real for a while now. How do they accommodate Enzo with Camvinga and Tchoumeni?.
II'd like to find and develop an alternative to the choco and let them develop away from home for a few years whilst keeping in touch with us. I am sick of these fantasy figures being mooted, it's contributing to players transfer inflation. Players are going to become too expensive for anyone soon
II'd like to find and develop an alternative to the choco and let them develop away from home for a few years whilst keeping in touch with us. I am sick of these fantasy figures being mooted, it's contributing to players transfer inflation. Players are going to become too expensive for anyone soon
120 millions is way too much, it would also add a lot of pressure on him to deliver because of price tag.
Again, why did we not buy him for 20m last summer? Now he will move for 60-70m and we most likely don't have that money as we also need a striker
Why didn’t Liverpool, Madrid, AC Milan, Chelsea, Bayern etc buy him either?
Sometimes it’s good to let players go through the correct development stages.
Alternatively you watch them do it at your club at a very slower pace.
Thank you.
I keep reading this nonsense about.. we missed out on yet another player and have to pay 60+ to sing him.
I mean we are not going to sign every player for 20m with talent are we?
Just have a look at Diallo and Pellestri, they have not improved at all.
Our fans just love to cry and be negative, players need playing time to develop and that is what Enzo is doing right now, developing.
They’ll still bring it up again and again though. Even when the evidence is there like the names you’ve listed.
Most clubs you mention can afford him anyhow, but we cant. Looks like we are a bit broke so
So you are aware of the finances available at other clubs and United to say we are broke but others can afford him?
Evidence points to exact opposite.
Liverpool have been selling to spend during Klopps tenure, AC Milan have not spent those fees.
We spend over 200m in the summer but apparently we cant spend money.
Should have signed him when Rangnick pointed him out.
That’s not true though is it. I don’t think anyone has out financially muscled us for years in the transfer market.
Correct me if I am wrong, but don't Madrid have to have a certain % of their team be European players? And they already have a pretty significant SA contingent in and around their starting lineup with Vinicius, Valverde, Rodrygo, Eder Militao etc. so perhaps Madrid might not be the best move?
Barcelona certainly don't look like the best move for anyone these days, but that's based on logic. In terms of appeal nothing will diminish that but then how much would they weigh that versus money etc in the PL
Oh yes, one of 50 players Ragnick pointed out apparently.
Just another example of these clubs gambling a few bob on promising south american talents which we should of been doing.
Chelsea just signed that £8m ivorian Molde striker too, wish we were more nimble with our signings too.
He pointed out about 7 players and any one of those would have been a good signing.
Alvarez
Nkunku
Haaland
Gvardiol
Enzo
Laimer
Tchouameni
Benfica have rejected a €100m bid for Enzo Fernandez, which they received yesterday. Benfica still holding out for €120m. The club that got rejected is still unknown, no one know who made the offer.
How Lucas and Kennedy doing? Maybe if they left them to go Porto and Benfica the limitless Brazil wonder kids we use to have would still be continuing.
Just 7?
He pointed to about 20, 25 players, the board should have listened to him, he was brilliant, love the bit about the open surgery.
Everybody and their mom who had the smallest amount of professional involvement in scouting knew about those players, his "supposed" suggestions are getting ridiculously overblown.
Fair examples, there is no guarantee when buying these guys they turn into world beaters but for every Lucas Piazon and Kenedy bought for 5M straight from Brazil you have Casemiros', Martinelli(4th brazil division or something), Gab Jesus, Marquinhos, Paquetas of this world who were picked up for peanuts and produce at a high level. List goes on as well.
Once burned twice shy and all that but Moneyball theory has proven to work at many of these top clubs that have great relationships with these smaller clubs, therefore getting a sniff earlier at talents that might really have it.
I understand both sides and totally get why football clubs do it. It’s as easy as it looks. Why make them go to a c/b side for £5m. When you can get them for £20m removing the potential mark up on price if they do well at the b/c club.
I just personally think the player develops better when they don’t take the big club route. Obviously there are exceptions to the norm like Vini Jr etc. However he was really close to getting lost in the system too. Don Carlo saved him.
I don’t understand this attitude.
We’ve just had arguably our best window in years yet still ungrateful.
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