English & Irish Cricket Summer 2018

I feel like defensive test batting is dead, I honestly don’t see how test cricket is going to compete with limited overs in the modern world

Different teams. We have Vijay, Pujara and Rahane who arent LO players and they're really good in the longer forms.

I have to admit, these are really good bowling conditions. A lot of movement in the air with a little help from the pitch.
 
Different teams. We have Vijay, Pujara and Rahane who arent LO players and they're really good in the longer forms.

I have to admit, these are really good bowling conditions. A lot of movement in the air with a little help from the pitch.

The Dukes ball has been good all series in the first 30 overs, the Indian bowlers have been good and the England batsmen have been pants.
 
What fecks me off is we've seen this every single summer since Bayliss has been in charge. We've seen shit batting lose us Test Matches against some rank average sides (with no offence to those sides) and what has the response been? Bayliss being allowed to decide when to step down and the batting coach that's been in charge since 2014 promoted to being in charge of the Lions (although Middlesex may do the whole country a favour and take him off us).
 
Swing is a fascinating thing. Blue skies, no humidity of note and it's still talking out of the hand. Very high skilled bowling and great ball for bowling.
 
Swing is a fascinating thing. Blue skies, no humidity of note and it's still talking out of the hand. Very high skilled bowling and great ball for bowling.

There's a fairly large body of scientific study suggesting that the idea the ball swings when it's overcast is absolute nonsense, and it's simply a case of confirmation bias and bowlers just bowling better when they think they should be able to swing the ball.

I'd love to see Sky's hawkeye data on that.
 
There's a fairly large body of scientific study suggesting that the idea the ball swings when it's overcast is absolute nonsense, and it's simply a case of confirmation bias and bowlers just bowling better when they think they should be able to swing the ball.

I'd love to see Sky's hawkeye data on that.

Yeah, it's interesting how much better England's bowlers bowl when it's overcast and the floodlights are on, almost like a switch has been flicked. A lot of credit should go to Dukes for manufacturing such a good ball that swings in all conditions and stays in shape for 30-40 overs. It will reverse here as well I reckon.
 
Wow, unless he gets a huge score in the next innings that we've got to say goodbye to Jennings.
 
24 overs in a session is not good, really need to start clamping down on over rates more vigorously. I'm all for run penalties if teams aren't at least getting in 14 overs an hour. I'm sure if you offered India another 6 overs in that session they'd have taken them, so why can't they bowl them in the time they have?
 
24 overs in a session is not good, really need to start clamping down on over rates more vigorously. I'm all for run penalties if teams aren't at least getting in 14 overs an hour. I'm sure if you offered India another 6 overs in that session they'd have taken them, so why can't they bowl them in the time they have?

Yeah that was terrible. 12 overs in a session is a farce.
 
Rubbish, can't they just shelve their shots until over 40 and start bringing them in once the ball softens?
 
Stokes doing an excellent job then.

Yeah but he's doing the job the top 3 should be doing, if Stokes is playing 100 balls great but his role in the team is to get 70 off those 100 balls not to see off the new ball and get a diligent 30.
 
Stokes and Ali showing proper test batting here.
 
And that's why Stokes grinding it out isn't worth much, he bats 79 balls he needs to be getting 50s in an ideal world.
 
India winning the series from 2-0 down would be a heck of an achievement, how many times has that happened in test cricket?
 
The force is with India, however, and while only one team has ever come from 2-0 down to win a Test series - Australia at home to England in 1936-7 - the opportunity to do so has been very scarce in recent decades

:nervous:
 
Just seen the score. Tough pitch to bat on or have England capitulated in good batting conditions?
 
Just seen the score. Tough pitch to bat on or have England capitulated in good batting conditions?

Both and neither really.

Pitch looks good, but India have bowled well and got movement through the air and England have oscillated between trying to dig in and playing daft shots.
 
Just seen the score. Tough pitch to bat on or have England capitulated in good batting conditions?

All the movement is in the air and it's not seaming massively off the pitch, Buttler and Cook got out playing rubbish shots, India will score 350+ on this pitch I reckon.
 
Both and neither really.

Pitch looks good, but India have bowled well and got movement through the air and England have oscillated between trying to dig in and playing daft shots.

All the movement is in the air and it's not seaming massively off the pitch, Buttler and Cook got out playing rubbish shots, India will score 350+ on this pitch I reckon.

Thanks.
 
People still entertaining bringing back Ian Bell, might as well recall Trescothick and Collingwood whilst we're at it.
 
As I predicted, Moeen and Curran doing the rebuilding job for England.
To be fair, conditions for batting are at their best between overs 30 and 70. Ball gets softer, doesn't do much, and pitch gets a little better as the day progresses. Somehow in this series the sun has almost always been out in those overs. I'm happy to see them reducing the run rate and bringing down Curran's strike rate. The wicket will come if they keep things tight.