Think Vince has a better technique than Ballance but as you say, he always finds a way to get out. He's a bit of a poor man's Ian Bell tbh.
Let's hope he turns it around.
English & Irish Cricket Summer 2018
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Let's hope he turns it around.
Yeah, Ballance was never a stylist, but idk, I always assumed he knew his game well enough and could make the adjustments he needed to to succeed (such as watching the ball rather than staring half way up the pitch). He then went and smashed county cricket for a season and got himself back in, and I thought he'd sorted it.
He's another player though that's a victim of England's bizarre selection over the years. Batted 5 for his country, so was then called up to bat 3 for England. Don't think it ultimately would have made a difference in this case, but we're not exactly giving players the chances to succeed we could.
Agree. Mad that they ask Pope to bat 4 when his only experience is half a dozen games batting 6.
Pope did open the batting in the North-South series, obviously white ball cricket is different but the general approach right now seems to be picking young players with a strong personalities and trying to develop them. Bess, Sam Curran and Pope have all that in common from what I have read about them. I get that long-term if Pope is any decent he probably will bat 4 but to bring him into the team in that position was a bit silly, Sehwag and Root are two examples of players that started at 6. I fancy part of the reason Pope was picked was because of ability to play spin, there's nothing to actually to back that up but with tours to Sri Lanka and West Indies coming up I definitely think it's playing on the selectors minds. Burns for instance averages 27 vs. spin this year which is probably why he hasn't been picked yet, then again he's only just got a look in for the Lions team.
Vince did score a double-hundred batting for over 8 hours earlier this year, I don't think he's going to play anyway but he probably deserves more patience than the likes of Malan and Jennings who may have test centuries but never ever felt like long-term test players.
Vince did score a double-hundred batting for over 8 hours earlier this year, I don't think he's going to play anyway but he probably deserves more patience than the likes of Malan and Jennings who may have test centuries but never ever felt like long-term test players.
Unfair. Rohit Sharma is excellent in LOI.
Against most other teams these guys speak Hindi to avoid the batsman understanding what they said.
Is this thread for the club cricket or just the national reams?
I watched my first live game of 20/20 the other day.
Was all right.
Hope it gets bigger. home teams needs to bat 2nd though
I watched my first live game of 20/20 the other day.
Was all right.
Hope it gets bigger. home teams needs to bat 2nd though
The quarterfinals have been horrible , all 3 have followed the same script and been completely one sided games . Haven't been to any of the games but the atmosphere at most of the stadium for this tournament looks pretty great tbh
Yeah Kent were second fiddle from the start. The batters just weren't batting week enough. Imran did well though considering he can't bat apparently. Then the bowlers did okay but needed to bowl a bit better. Would have been a different game if that fielder hadn't dropped the ball and hit himself in the face
Also a lancisher fielder got chased by a wasp
How much was the tickets btw ? I thought of going to the India England test but 65 pounds seemed like a really steep price for a day of test cricket
I got tickets for day 4 of the final test for £52. Seems fairly decent.
Ageas also has 50 pound tickets but I wanted a better stand , I just can't be arsed spending a whole day at the ground and if it was cheaper I would probably leave early
Guys please can we have the discussion about the English county somewhere else?
Before the Stokes trial changed it the title did include County Cricket.
I've started threads in here for County stuff before and they just die.
Yeah my vision was to roll up any county tidbits such T20 finals day and the like in here as it's a part of the English summer and is not singularly thread worthy as NinjaFletch says.
Also absolutely here for people posting their first experiences seeing county cricket live.
Also absolutely here for people posting their first experiences seeing county cricket live.
Confirmed England team for tomorrow:
Cook
Jennings
Root (c)
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler (wk)
Moeen
Curran
Rashid
Broad
Anderson
Nice balance, Stokes might not bowl too much.
Cook
Jennings
Root (c)
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler (wk)
Moeen
Curran
Rashid
Broad
Anderson
Nice balance, Stokes might not bowl too much.
New slip cordon as well: Cook Root Stokes.
This series has proved that the best bowling attack is the one favoured by weather. Hoping India get lucky with that, so their bowlers can take some wickets and I can have a good laugh. Good to see England add batting depth here, I think India will lose this match.
Only 3 specialised Batsman who are all out of nick, 6 bowlers and 2 Keeper batsmanMake that 2-2
Make that 2-2
Huh? Bairstow is a specialist batsman for the ODI team, Stokes and Moeen are better batsmen than bowlers. With the exception of Jennings these are pretty much the best batsmen England have available to them.
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What batting depth they've added here? Dropped Pope and Woakes and brought in Alli and Curran. Think it's pretty even.
They've strenghtened their bowling.
Ali > Woakes
Curran > Pope in test cricket so far, although over time I suspect this will be inverted.
Ali is better than Woakes? At what, exactly?
Batting. He's not been helped by being moved all around the order in tests but Ali averages 38 in first-class cricket vs. Woakes' 35 which is boosted by a significant number of not-out's (47 vs. Moeen's 27).
Agree.
There's no point picking specialist batsmen if none of them are going to produce. Moeen's record is as good as any specialist batsman we could have picked.
Feel for Pope but it's not like the old days where he'd be consigned to the wilderness. He's part of the group now and will probably go on tour.
Feel like Ali's been a little underwhelming in test cricket - I know he performed well against us at the Ageas (?) back in 2014, IIRC, and South Africa last year. Other than that, I can't really remember him doing a lot with the bat, though. Woakes, on the other hand, has been extremely impressive with the ball. And, done reasonably well with the bat.
He has 5 test 100s and there's quite a few innings where Moeen has bailed out the top order with runs with the tail. He's suffered from not really having a proper role in the team (is he a batsman that bowls a bit or a bowler that bats etc.) and a few poor tours. I think he will flourish by not having to be the main spinner. He's a very good player that's prone to a brain fade.
Ali's got six centuries if I'm not wrong. Woakes just scored his first.
India unchanged. 
England bat.
England bat.
Damn, England batting first. Looks a belter.
That's the fourth consecutive toss we have lost in this series. Ffs.
So looks like Ben Stokes might not bowl due to a knee niggle.
Root has to be one of the best tossers about .
.That's a fecking insane ball.
Jennings didn't even see the ball until it hit him.One of the best ball of the series that.
I'm not sure if it's an insane delivery or Jennings just left a plumb straight ball.