Wood being in is a plus, as is having two seamers hitting that speed.
Like I said before, England need to take a chance here as the Ashes could be decided by this time next week.
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Like I said before, England need to take a chance here as the Ashes could be decided by this time next week.
It's known until the Eoin Morgan era England white ball teams that we didn't really care to much about white ball cricket so just it isn't in our consciousness because we didn't really care to much about it at the time
Wasn’t it just a random group game? I don’t think I even particularly cared at the time. These things happen. The Stokes-Braithwaite one definitely sticks more in the memory due to the context.
Glad we cleared that up then, cheers.
I think this is worse than Yuvraj actually. Getting tonked for a world record by a tailender who wasn't even off the mark at the time.
I also just have a huge bias in my mind that anything that happens in an Ashes game is infinitely more important than any other Cricket we play. And I'd imagine many feel similiar.
One was a freak accident, one was a deliberately sly and deceitful ploy. Sometimes strange things happen in cricket more often than not by accident. Sometimes you gain an advantage sometimes a disadvantage.
What Aus did yesterday was no accident it's was a deliberately sly and deciteful way to get a wicket that was not in keeping with the spirit of the game. I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand about the difference between taking advantage of a freak accident or a poor umpiring decision in your favour. To very deliberately going against the spirit of cricket.
Also do not remember this despite being at the next day of the test match. We get it, you don't like Broad - you can stop turbo posting youtube vids of England not doing that well now.
Yeah, that more or less sums it up. I see Broad took 5-5 including a hat-trick against India once. No recollection of that but I’d definitely recall it if it had been the Ashes! His 169 against Pakistan does stick in my mind though - that was sublime to watch.
Winning the Ashes is more important the any moral high ground you might have.
To an extent yeh. A part of me thinks it's great fun they've done it anyway - really spices up the series.
Yup Andrew that’s exactly the same as what happened
I’m slightly surprised the Aussies are doubling down on this. I expected Cummins to be at least a bit contrite about it having had time to think about it and the justification from McDonald is just drivel. It’s one of the clearest examples where the “spirit of cricket” should have applied and the Aussies are usually very keen to uphold that.
I think Australia would have won this series comfortably regardless, they didn’t really need to fall back on things like this. They’re an outstanding team ability wise.
I actually hope this gives England the fire and focus we’ve been missing, so that we can at least win one of the games hopefully.
There's a good reason for that. He still get's abuse every time he goes to Australia.
Are you ok? Broad is one of the all time greats in tests. I've barely posted about him and I can't remember the last youtube video I posted in this thread. Stop posting unimaginative nonsense.
You probably need to take a chill pill. You've been throwing insults left right and centre at other posters the past few days. All these are warnings if anyone had been arsed to report them:
Broad will finish his career as taking the second most test wickets for a fast bowler in history. Ahead of the closest active fast bowler by 250 wickets.
I don’t reckon his legacy is decided by one over in a T20 group game this thread has gone proper weird now.
I don’t reckon his legacy is decided by one over in a T20 group game
this thread has gone proper weird now.I will happily take my warning points for slagging off my nemesis in this thread. As if you've just quote tweeted all of that
Stuart Broad disagrees with you.Broad will finish his career as taking the second most test wickets for a fast bowler in history. Ahead of the closest active fast bowler by 250 wickets.
I don’t reckon his legacy is decided by one over in a T20 group game
Sigh. Go on…
Nothing else to say, I agree with you. Broad doesn't, just stating that.
I will happily take my warning points for slagging off my nemesis in this thread. As if you've just quote tweeted all of that
Almost a better love/hate story than Broad/Carey.
Broad thinks his legacy is defined by being hit for six sixes?
I can't disagree with you there. They're gigantic cheaters, themselves.
Nope, but by his own logic his non walking is what he should think he will be remembered by.
On a more serious note, I feel you can't really remember someone by one thing alone, broad will be remembered by different people in different ways, for Indians he will be a great bowler who also got tonked by yuvraj and bumrah. To the english he is one of their greatest bowlers, to the aussies he is a great opponent who also was a cnut who did not walk. It's not a 1 thing alone.
Ah okay. Well that’s a very different thing to what I was talking about with the sixes. I think part of Broad saying that was because it was Carey, who no offence, is a good keeper but won’t be remembered massively highly. He wouldn’t have said the same thing to someone like Smith or Starc, for example.
In Australia it is.
Yeah, and the fact that all-time greats like Broad and Smith are still also remembered for not walking and sandpaper respectively just emphasises the truth in what Broad said.
I disagree on that. He isn't Pant but I would rate Carey as one of the best keepers in the game right now and a decent batsman, was especially impressed by his keeping in India outkept bharat by a huge margin. If he continues this for a 2-3 years, he will be considered a really good keeper for this generation.
i’ll think of him whenever i’m picking up dog shit.
I mean are keepers be remembered that highly really outside of the mythical ones like Dhoni and Gilchrist for example
How many wicket keepers are remembered as greats of the game?
It's the full-back of cricket.
Ok, though I am not sure what I am supposed to do with this information, but since we are on the topic, do you go around picking up random dogshit? And if you do, may I be bold enough and ask why???
Can we relent with the “spirit of the game” shite
as has been demonstrated by all the historical footage, it happens quite a bit - funnily enough even by some of the individuals involved in this English squad.Never said he will be a great, just because you aren't a great doesn't mean you won't be remembered.
Broad will finish his career as taking the second most test wickets for a fast bowler in history. Ahead of the closest active fast bowler by 250 wickets.
I don’t reckon his legacy is decided by one over in a T20 group game
Damn, didn't realise how many wickets Broad had. Pretty good for a guy who got hit for 6 sixes in an over, once.
it’s just a hobby. some golf, some knit, some ruin the sport of cricket.
Gilchrist will definitely be remembered as one of the greats. He redefined the role. Boucher is up there too. Sangakarra.
You could make a case for Dhoni, AB, and Haddin too.
Rizwan in a T20 setting exclusively.
Gilchrist was immense. I also seem to remember him walking off in a WC final (wasn't it?) after he knicked the ball - even though it was one i wasn't sure the umpre would've given. Not sure if i am rewriting history or if i am, in fact, remembering well? Old age is a bugger.Going to the final day of the Old Trafford test. Can't wait, just hope England get a result in the next one!
Sangakarra didn't keep in tests tbf.