English cricket thread

As a neutral it’s been fantastic entertainment. For which both teams deserve credit. Although the Aussies are clearly the better team. Cracking series anyway.
Are you really a neutral neutral? Not enjoying England losing just a little ;)

(you’ll be the first and only neutral here if so)
 
He literally marched out of his crease the second the ball flew past him. Whether Carey was up at the stumps or further away, the dismissal was valid. Lose with grace, Jesus Christ. Absolutely embarrassing posts in here.
Incorrect, it was more than a second. But I appreciate the intensity of your post. Take care.
 
My first reaction watching it live was: Bairstow, where the feck are you strolling?! He can feel a bit hard done by, but his carelessness played a role as well. Carey (no pun intended) used the ball as soon as he received it, to dislodge the stumps. Isn't that the description of a regular stumping?

The fact that a batsman can consider a ball to be dead when the wicketkeeper has almost instantly thrown the ball, is careless. Again, maybe feel a bit hard done by, but he's not faultless and cannot blame the opposition for exploiting it. The fact that they've seen it before, puts it even more on him.
You are talking bollocks.
The etiquette is, if the batsman at the bowlers end is walking out of his crease repeatedly is that the bowler holds the ball over the stumps to warn him if he does it again you’ll knock the bails off. You don’t just go ahead and do it first time. Unsportsmanlike if you do.
This ball was dead, over was aledgedly called. Nobody was trying to to do anything, not stealing a few yards to get a run, literally nothing.
No “hard done by” here just shitty unsportsmanship.
Football is a cesspool of feckery and deceitfulness and I expect it there at every turn but cricket has always (up until the last 20 years) been better than that.
Aussies being Aussies will drag it in to the gutter with the rest of it. Sad day.
 
But if he hadn't stuck men on the fence, Stokes would have continued hitting boundaries and twos and three where he wanted, and England would have got closer and closer. They were not bizarre tactics at all. They were excellent tactics.

He eventually bored Stokes into submission and it worked.

There were two posters on here who were talking about Cummins being sacked as captain and Smith being reinstated, but Cummins ultimately did what Australia failed to do the last time Stokes made them look silly.
It was odd tactics -

- field setting for Broad wasn’t aggressive enough
- bowling on middle/leg for Stokes when he was smacking it for 6 on the onside
- bowling that length towards the short boundary for Stokes
- only bowling short and not mixing it up
- giving Broad easy singles to rotate the strike if needed

Aussies came up trumps in the end but Cummins should have been smarter in that middle period.
 
I was really impressed with Tongue (this will be quoted in the sexual posts thread).

Shows the importance of a bowler that can consist hit post 85mph speeds. I think it’s time for England to move on from Anderson. If the conditions aren’t right he’s a hindrance, and his catching was shambolic.
 
Are you really a neutral neutral? Not enjoying England losing just a little ;)

(you’ll be the first and only neutral here if so)

If anything I’m more of an England fan than Australia. Lived in Aus for two years and the Aussie sports fans gave me a massive pain in the hole. Watched most of the 1999 Ashes (saw the Darren Gough hat-trick in the flesh) in Australia, 100% rooting for England.
 
Regardless of where you stand on this issue, it’ll be great to have an edgy few tests for the rest of the series. Feels like that’s the way the Ashes should be.
 
What I will say is it would be so horrible for England to keeping winding up Steve Smith. Please don’t trigger the best test batsman that’s walked the planet his Bradman. Oh please don’t call him a cheat etc.
He's never struck me as someone who needs to be wound up to perform?
 
This theory that batters need warnings is one of the absolute ridiculous things ever. Probably made up by MCC thugs breaking away from their own rules.

Why do batters need warnings? Do they not know the rules? Are they playing a different game? Cricket is already giving a lot of advantages to batters.
 
I’d be very embarrassed to not withdraw the appeal and win in that way.

But there are so many instances of bending the spirit of the rules in all sports to win these days, like diving, surrounding/ berating referees and feigning injury, that you can see why they do it.

Classless and not the way things should be, but it works.
 
Has anybody noted how fecking stupid Stokes batting became when it was down to 70 runs?

The only reason he seemingly tee’d off is because after that run out, it was no lose situation. He could get out 5 balls later and England could point to the run out to deflect from the result. But he genuinely got them into a fighting opportunity and blew it.
 
Has anybody noted how fecking stupid Stokes batting became when it was down to 70 runs?

The only reason he seemingly tee’d off is because after that run out, it was no lose situation. He could get out 5 balls later and England could point to the run out to deflect from the result. But he genuinely got them into a fighting opportunity and blew it.

Oh come on I am just not having that,have you forgotten that our clowns put us 45-4 piling too much pressure on to Duckett & Stokes.

This scoreline massively flatters Australia but England have played the moments poorly and its ultimately cost them. Strauss nailed it when he said England just haven't kept Australia down when they had chances in both tests.

Regarding Bairstow he was dozy and within the laws he's out,however personally don't think it's within the spirit of the game.
 
Honestly that was one of the greatest ashes innings I've ever watched.

It would have gone down in history as one of greatest ever innings had the poms pulled it off, even if he was out and they still won.

It seems like he took exception to the Bairstow wicket and knew he had nothing to lose. Some of those shots were prime Hayden and KP combined. Just dispatching balls with contempt.
 
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Honestly that was one of the greatest ashes innings I've ever watched.

It would have gone down in history has the poms pulled it off, even if he was out and they still won.

It seems like he took exception to the Bairstow wicket and knew he had nothing to lose. Some of those shots were prime Hayden and KP combined. Just dispatching balls with contempt.

The crazy thing about this & Headingley is how the odds of a normal dismissal become almost next to zero. Apart from mis hitting a big shot you couldn’t think that there was one ball that beat him
 
The crazy thing about this & Headingley is how the odds of a normal dismissal become almost next to zero. Apart from mis hitting a big shot you couldn’t think that there was one ball that beat him
Often happens when teams send every fielder to the boundary. Takes all the pressure off and the batsmen middle everything.
 
That Bairstow wicket didn't sit well with me.

I mean I laughed at the time, it was a wicket and Bairstow was stupid. But I don't really like it.
 
Honestly that was one of the greatest ashes innings I've ever watched.

It would have gone down in history as one of greatest ever innings had the poms pulled it off, even if he was out and they still won.

It seems like he took exception to the Bairstow wicket and knew he had nothing to lose. Some of those shots were prime Hayden and KP combined. Just dispatching balls with contempt.

Im not saying it wasn’t great, but he could have made it better by finishing it off with some level headed batting. It wouldn’t have been just the ashes, it would be all time innings. Up there with the likes of Gilchrist against South Africa 2002 or Punter 2005.
 
The crazy thing about this & Headingley is how the odds of a normal dismissal become almost next to zero. Apart from mis hitting a big shot you couldn’t think that there was one ball that beat him

Yeah Stokes was seeing beach balls out there.

Not having Lyon to throw at him didn't help us of course. We just couldn't break his rhythm and I think Lyon would likely have helped there (or he could have just launched him into the stratosphere). Stokes was in such form that it just didn't matter how fast you bowl at him.

On a side note, I loved hearing Punter heaping praise on Stokes post match.
 
Im not saying it wasn’t great, but he could have made it better by finishing it off with some level headed batting. It wouldn’t have been just the ashes, it would be all time innings. Up there with the likes of Gilchrist against South Africa 2002 or Punter 2005.

I reckon if you've got that far by playing that way, and you're in a rhythm - then you just keep going, at least until you're much closer to the target.

They still had 70 odd runs to chase when he was dismissed, and there was absolutely no guarantee the rest if the tail were going to dig in.
 
Urgh why couldn't we have those bowlers fit who have the pace to blow away tail. We win that game at Edgbaston with a fit Wood or better managed Archer earlier in career
 
Not by members of the MCC who want the world to act like gentlemen when they visit England but will act like sore losers. There was a lot of criticism for Ganguly about his celebration in 2002, when Flintoff did the same in Mumbai.

Glad England lost. Them losing like this makes it even more sweeter.

Hopefully @SmallCaine and @Witchking get hammered for basically laughing in England's face,typical Aussies I spose
 
Jonny Bairstow must have forgotten that he tried to do exactly the same to Labuschagne earlier in the test but missed the wickets.
 
Jonny Bairstow must have forgotten that he tried to do exactly the same to Labuschagne earlier in the test but missed the wickets.
Was that mid-over, with the batsmen batting out of his crease? As opposed to the batsmen leaving their ground because they think the ball is dead at the end of the over.
 
Was that mid-over, with the batsmen batting out of his crease? As opposed to the batsmen leaving their ground because they think the ball is dead at the end of the over.
It's amazing how many delusional excuses english fans will come up with.



Remind me how high Was that moral horse?
 
I reckon the only fair way to settle this beef it to have a Caf meet up and box on.
 
It's amazing how many delusional excuses english fans will come up with.



Remind me how high Was that moral horse?


Haha, loved the comment - "it's almost the exact same thing but Bairstow was garbage in both."