English cricket thread

I can’t listen or watch at the moment but interesting that on the live text they say a lot of the Australian commentators in the media box were shaking their heads when they didn’t withdraw the appeal. Would love to know what they really think of it.
 
Such hostile atmosphere from the crowd isn't worthy of the home of cricket. A sad day for the sport.
 
The commentators are absolute weasels. They are basically absolving the Aussies of any blame. Bairstow didn’t look at Carey and clearly took his cue from the umpire, who was walking off not looking at the ball. There is more than enough grey area there to give the batsman the benefit of the doubt.

When you couple it with the dodgy catches it just shows the Aussies are never far away from cheating, such a shame as they clearly don’t need to, they are the best in the world. Man City of cricket.
 
Nothing wrong with what Carey did. The ball wasn't settled in his gloves, he got rid of the ball immediately




Law 23: Dead Ball
1. The Ball Becomes Dead, when:-
(a) It is finally settled in the hands of the Wicket Keeper or the Bowler.
(b) It reaches or pitches over the boundary.
(c) A Batsman is out.
(d) Whether played or not, it lodges in the clothing or equipment of a Batsman or the clothing of an Umpire.
(e) A ball lodges in a protective helmet worn by a member of the fielding side.
(f) A penalty is awarded under Law 20. (Lost Ball) or Law 41.1. (Fielding the Ball).
(g) The Umpire calls "over" or "time".
 
pouring all my barossa valley wines down the sink as we speak.
 
Such hostile atmosphere from the crowd isn't worthy of the home of cricket. A sad day for the sport.

The fact there is such a hostile attitude at Lords, who almost seem impartial at times, tells you everything you need to know. Even the pensioners in the long room were unhappy.
 
The fact there is such a hostile attitude at Lords, who almost seem impartial at times, tells you everything you need to know. Even the pensioners in the long room were unhappy.

yep. it‘s going to be spiteful at headingly.
 
Nothing wrong with what Carey did. The ball wasn't settled in his gloves, he got rid of the ball immediately




Law 23: Dead Ball
1. The Ball Becomes Dead, when:-
(a) It is finally settled in the hands of the Wicket Keeper or the Bowler.
(b) It reaches or pitches over the boundary.
(c) A Batsman is out.
(d) Whether played or not, it lodges in the clothing or equipment of a Batsman or the clothing of an Umpire.
(e) A ball lodges in a protective helmet worn by a member of the fielding side.
(f) A penalty is awarded under Law 20. (Lost Ball) or Law 41.1. (Fielding the Ball).
(g) The Umpire calls "over" or "time".

I don’t think anyone is arguing it wasn’t out in the letter of the law. It’s the spirit of it that is being questioned given Bairstow clearly wasn’t trying to gain any advantage.

I love that Lords is riled up. So it should be, and England need them to be.
 
Nothing wrong with what Carey did. The ball wasn't settled in his gloves, he got rid of the ball immediately




Law 23: Dead Ball
1. The Ball Becomes Dead, when:-
(a) It is finally settled in the hands of the Wicket Keeper or the Bowler.
(b) It reaches or pitches over the boundary.
(c) A Batsman is out.
(d) Whether played or not, it lodges in the clothing or equipment of a Batsman or the clothing of an Umpire.
(e) A ball lodges in a protective helmet worn by a member of the fielding side.
(f) A penalty is awarded under Law 20. (Lost Ball) or Law 41.1. (Fielding the Ball).
(g) The Umpire calls "over" or "time".

Of course its legal, that's why it was given out. No one is arguing that.

What most are saying is that it was very unsportsmanlike. The umpire wasn't even watching the play. Everyone was acting as if the ball was dead.
 
Nothing wrong with what Carey did. The ball wasn't settled in his gloves, he got rid of the ball immediately




Law 23: Dead Ball
1. The Ball Becomes Dead, when:-
(a) It is finally settled in the hands of the Wicket Keeper or the Bowler.
(b) It reaches or pitches over the boundary.
(c) A Batsman is out.
(d) Whether played or not, it lodges in the clothing or equipment of a Batsman or the clothing of an Umpire.
(e) A ball lodges in a protective helmet worn by a member of the fielding side.
(f) A penalty is awarded under Law 20. (Lost Ball) or Law 41.1. (Fielding the Ball).
(g) The Umpire calls "over" or "time".

Yeah... this is where it's pure sportsmanship cheating. Bairstow best had relentlessly return the favour in the next test. To the point of willingly taking a joke warning as I have said. Bit of common sense should have prevailed.
 
I've got to say, Stuart Broad getting mad about spirit of cricket being broken is very funny.
 
I don't think so. Just seem like it was reflex from Carey and once it had happened they did not want to turn the clock back.

I'm not convinced, I think it was planned. They showed replays of Bairstow doing the same thing constantly and it's a very unusual for a wicket keeper thing to do from so far back.
Nothing wrong with what Carey did. The ball wasn't settled in his gloves, he got rid of the ball immediately




Law 23: Dead Ball
1. The Ball Becomes Dead, when:-
(a) It is finally settled in the hands of the Wicket Keeper or the Bowler.
(b) It reaches or pitches over the boundary.
(c) A Batsman is out.
(d) Whether played or not, it lodges in the clothing or equipment of a Batsman or the clothing of an Umpire.
(e) A ball lodges in a protective helmet worn by a member of the fielding side.
(f) A penalty is awarded under Law 20. (Lost Ball) or Law 41.1. (Fielding the Ball).
(g) The Umpire calls "over" or "time".

No-ones saying it wasn't valid, but it definitely isn't in the spirit of the game if it was planned. I have some grudging respect for spotting that Bairstow was doing it constantly, but traditionally in cricket they should have warned him that they had seen what he was doing.
 
England have the slimmest of chances with Stokes still at the crease. If anyone can make it happen it’s him.
 
wonder why the only dark person in the game got singled out by some twat in the members pavilion
Of course its legal, that's why it was given out. No one is arguing that.

What most are saying is that it was very unsportsmanlike. The umpire wasn't even watching the play. Everyone was acting as if the ball was dead.

That’s the biggest grey area for me, the umpire walked off not looking and Bairstow was taking his cue from him.
 
A Lords crowd would accept a side trying their hand at skirting a law of the game.

But DON'T YOU DARE do anything against the spirit of cricket. Love it.
 
The only negative for me of the Stokes onslaught is that I wanted to have a nap, being Sunday afternoon and all, but now with him on the charge I don't want to miss any of the next session
 
Of course its legal, that's why it was given out. No one is arguing that.

What most are saying is that it was very unsportsmanlike. The umpire wasn't even watching the play. Everyone was acting as if the ball was dead.

Like when Broad clearly edged a ball didn't walk and said he'd do it again?
 
Atherton is not one to get wrapped up in hyperbole - "England have nothing to complain about, it was a dozy bit of cricket from Jonny Bairstow"

Largely, echo's my thoughts. Not really arsed about it. May the best team win.
 
Will need to listen to what The Grade Cricketer have to say about this before I make my judgement
 
Like when Broad clearly edged a ball didn't walk and said he' do it again?

Deflection? I’m going to go out on a limb and say the worst cheats are on the Australian side, based or current and recent events. Doesn’t change what happened being extremely dubious.
 
Aussies look all smiles. I guess they’re happy to be restored as the baddies of the game.
 
The worst thing for me is that Bairstow doesn’t just walk away but he turns around & marks his guard. I don’t see much wrong with what he did tbh
 
It’s a cheap way to get a wicket. And not “in the spirit”. But it was so premeditated that Bairstow must have been doing what he did for a while for them to do it. I’m not saying it is what I would like to see in cricket, but Bairstow needs to be more self aware.

But that’s worse. It’s not an accident. They’ve deliberately planned to get someone out who they know is considering the ball dead and not trying to gain any advantage.