English cricket thread

[Samid]

Green

 

[Cloud7]

Wow who saw this coming

 

[DOTA]

Green doesn't seem very bright.

 

[Alex99]

Green doesn't seem very bright.

Thinking about rabbits again, no doubt

 

[Dan_F]

Not gonna lie, there seems to be a decent amount of spin on this pitch.

 

[DOTA]

Thinking about rabbits again, no doubt

Precisely.

I'm glad someone appreciated that one.

 

[Samid]

Lyon must be rubbing his hands.

 

[whitbyviking]

Everyone is ready to slate England for x, y or z but I've seen no one say you know what fairplay we are playing the best side in the world and not The Dog and Duck XI, it's OK for the other team to just be better than you which they are.

We need to play better for sure but even then the likely outcome is still an Aussie win.

How is being honest about the play “slating” them? The Aussies are the best team in the world and that is largely irrelevant.

England are performing nowhere near where they would expect to be with the ball and in the field. It’s an honest and accurate assessment. The opposition is irrelevant.

 

[whitbyviking]

Well well that's changed it a bit 5 down

First wicket ball was a decent one too.

 

[charlton66]

Not gonna lie, there seems to be a decent amount of spin on this pitch.

....and of course we didn't include a front line spinner.

 

[Alex99]

Precisely.

I'm glad someone appreciated that one.

He does have the look of someone who'd cry after they let go of their balloon because they thought they saw a penny on the ground

 

[Utd heap]

....and of course we didn't include a front line spinner.

We don't have one

 

[Annihilate Now!]

We don't have one

We could have given Rehan a crack.

 

[Utd heap]

We could have given Rehan a crack.

Even by Bazball standards that would have been mental IMO

 

[Utd heap]

The Test against New Zealand at Trent Bridge last year, England opted to bowl and New Zealand scored 553, England replied with 539. New Zealand scored 284 in the second innings before England chased it with a run-a-ball 299.

Who'd have thought Test matches have twists and turns.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Even by Bazball standards that would have been mental IMO

I'll take anything over watching Robinson trudge in and bowl the same 80mph delivery ad nauseam.

 

[Balljy]

Even by Bazball standards that would have been mental IMO

I've only just realised that they've brought him into the squad for this test so they were obviously thinking about it.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

We could have given Rehan a crack.

Should have done in my view. You always need a spinner unless it’s seamers paradise.
Sticking with both Anderson and Broad was a mistake and I think it’s one England are going to have to pay.

 

[whitbyviking]

Pitch looks to be the opposite of what England would want too, Edgbaston was similar to this.

Does the home team no longer prepare the pitch to suit them?

 

[zing]

Pitch looks to be the opposite of what England would want too, Edgbaston was similar to this.

Does the home team no longer prepare the pitch to suit them?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...ches-for-ashes-and-knows-englands-starting-xi

It's a bit early to call this pitch, though.

 

[Utd heap]

No wicket for Broad and Anderson all day. We need some seamers fit, and fast.

 

[charlton66]

We could have given Rehan a crack.

I agree. If he's not going to be considered they shouldn't have called him up. What's the old saying, "if you're good enough, you're old enough."

 

[Utd heap]

I agree. If he's not going to be considered they shouldn't have called him up. What's the old saying, "if you're good enough, you're old enough."

He's an 18 year old leggie who has barely taken a wicket this year.

Imagine throwing him into this!?

 

[DOTA]

I agree. If he's not going to be considered they shouldn't have called him up. What's the old saying, "if you're good enough, you're old enough."

The evidence outside of a single match doesn't suggest he is good enough though. You'd be picking him on potential, which is very different.

 

[The Corinthian]

He's an 18 year old leggie who has barely taken a wicket this year.

Imagine throwing him into this!?

He took a 5-for in Pakistan earlier this year.

 

[Utd heap]

He took a 5-for in Pakistan earlier this year.

Yes. In Pakistan.

This is in England, in drizzling rain, in the Ashes, with everyone watching.

 

[DOTA]

He took a 5-for in Pakistan earlier this year.

One of three times in senior cricket that he's taken more than three wickets in an innings. That match constitutes 7 of his 22 first class wickets.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

The evidence outside of a single match doesn't suggest he is good enough though. You'd be picking him on potential, which is very different.

And for Vibes as well. Going with 4 seamers was not vibes and really the conservative option.

 

[charlton66]

He's an 18 year old leggie who has barely taken a wicket this year.

Imagine throwing him into this!?

Once again, if he's not really going to be considered, don't call him up.

 

[Ayush_reddevil]

Still in this game. All out 450 tomorrow and then get 600 with the bat

 

[Utd heap]

Once again, if he's not really going to be considered, don't call him up.

Being around the team and dressing room will be good experience.

 

[DOTA]

And for Vibes as well. Going with 4 seamers was not vibes and really the conservative option.

I'd be in favour if it was possible to wipe his memory after the match if it went horribly wrong but it's risking someone's career.

 

[charlton66]

The evidence outside of a single match doesn't suggest he is good enough though. You'd be picking him on potential, which is very different.

I'm not entirely disagreeing with you. Like I said, if he's not worthy of a call up, don't call him up.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

I'd be in favour if it was possible to wipe his memory after the match if it went horribly wrong but it's risking someone's career.

Yeah that’s fair. I still would have picked a spinner though. Even Dawson would have been better than nothing. Think we’ll destroy Root’s back if we overbowl him as well.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

Still in this game. All out 450 tomorrow and then get 600 with the bat

Stokes would declare long long before then anyway.

 

[charlton66]

Being around the team and dressing room will be good experience.

It's the Ashes. We needed a spinner. Please don't tell me there is not a single spinner in the whole of England who wouldn't have been better than the dross we put out today as far as our seamers were concerned.

 

[RoadTrip]

Just seen Tongue’s ball to Warner. Now that was mad.

 

[DOTA]

Yeah that’s fair. I still would have picked a spinner though. Even Dawson would have been better than nothing. Think we’ll destroy Root’s back if we overbowl him as well.

I'm always nervous about this. It's held up far better over the years than I ever expected but we certainly push our luck with it.

 

[The Corinthian]

Yes. In Pakistan.

This is in England, in drizzling rain, in the Ashes, with everyone watching.

So? Your point is only play him when no one is watching or in a low stakes game? That's nonsense. If he's good enough, he's good enough (and I think he is tbh).

One of three times in senior cricket that he's taken more than three wickets in an innings. That match constitutes 7 of his 22 first class wickets.

That match is 7 wickets, not including his 22 first class wickets, and that's his one and only test. He's obviously thought of highly in the camp considering he's been on the fringes of the first team for the year.

 

[DOTA]

That match is 7 wickets, not including his 22 first class wickets, and that's his one and only test. He's obviously thought of highly in the camp considering he's been on the fringes of the first team for the year.

Are you saying his 22 first class wickets does not include those 7? Test wickets have always been included first class stats, as far as I am aware.