English cricket thread

I wish we could have those 2 wickets back that we gave up by declaring on day 1.

Oh well, let's hope for some Jimmy magic.
 
Anything below 280 would be suicidal. If the forecast stays the same for Tuesday, I can see a declaration just before tea tomorrow, but they’ll have to motor to risk that.

Well, 280 at tea and Australia about to bat. Didn’t quite want it bordering on suicidal though :lol:
 
Hey I’m not quite that old yet!

My knees might be though
My son recently got into basketball which I’ve never played. You want to feel like a knackered old bastard try learning that one at 40
 
280 is a lot of runs to get on a 5th day pitch in England with bad weather knocking about.

I am not sure how this is in 'Australia's hands'. I wouldn't want to be chasing that much and it's more a case of England having to bowl poorly and Australia bat well.

They're the better team in my opinion but this is still a trickier chase than is being made out here.
 
My son recently got into basketball which I’ve never played. You want to feel like a knackered old bastard try learning that one at 40

I played at 16 and I think it’s probably the most tiring sport I’ve played apart from squash, I’m 35 and I think I’d would end me these days
 
280 is a lot of runs to get on a 5th day pitch in England with bad weather knocking about.

I am not sure how this is in 'Australia's hands'. I wouldn't want to be chasing that much and it's more a case of England having to bowl poorly and Australia bat well.

They're the better team in my opinion but this is still a trickier chase than is being made out here.

I agree with this, I make Aussies favourites but it's far from a done deal
 
I played at 16 and I think it’s probably the most tiring sport I’ve played apart from squash, I’m 35 and I think I’d would end me these days
It’s all the twisting and turning, it’s like someone’s specifically designed a game to feck up your knees, lower back and shoulders all in the same afternoon
 
I think they need to get a good chunk of these tonight. Unless it's a lot better than this tomorrow it will be tricky even if there is enough time.

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280 is a lot of runs to get on a 5th day pitch in England with bad weather knocking about.

I am not sure how this is in 'Australia's hands'. I wouldn't want to be chasing that much and it's more a case of England having to bowl poorly and Australia bat well.

They're the better team in my opinion but this is still a trickier chase than is being made out here.
Weather could even things out but this wouldn't be typical fifth day pitch chase more like fourth day chase due overs lost yesterday .

But this chase could become tricky if English can snare some quick wickets early on .
 
60/40 Australia I'd say, would've liked another 30-40 but I'd of taken 281 this morning if I'm honestWhatever happens it's been a great test match.
 
My son recently got into basketball which I’ve never played. You want to feel like a knackered old bastard try learning that one at 40
My son just turned 30 and so after not playing football for over 20 years I tried to play in a co-ed team with him. I found out I that i really was a knackered old bastard.
 
My son just turned 30 and so after not playing football for over 20 years I tried to play in a co-ed team with him. I found out I that i really was a knackered old bastard.
Ouch, yeah that must have been challenging. Get yourself in a veterans team :drool: That’s my next port of call
 
If England had to chase this, I would back them completely. So in that sense I have to say Australia should win with their batting order
 
England have completely and utterly caused their own problems in this test. Very little to do with Australia playing well, just poor decisions and execution.

To me declaring in the first innings at that score was totally brainless. You had a guy in, set, could have smashed some runs. I understand the desire to get Australia in but you don't sacrifice first innings runs unless you're out of sight, that is just stupid. You win tests with first innings scores. There's being aggressive then there's just being an idiot as captain. It feels like they're constantly trying to make a point beyond what is necessary, you're already scoring at 4-5 an over how much further do we need to go with it to live up to this mantra...it's a test match ffs!

Then all the drops and no balls and general ineptitude in the field has kept them in the game.

Will be extremely disappointing to lose this.
 
England have completely and utterly caused their own problems in this test. Very little to do with Australia playing well, just poor decisions and execution.

To me declaring in the first innings at that score was totally brainless. You had a guy in, set, could have smashed some runs. I understand the desire to get Australia in but you don't sacrifice first innings runs unless you're out of sight, that is just stupid. You win tests with first innings scores. There's being aggressive then there's just being an idiot as captain. It feels like they're constantly trying to make a point beyond what is necessary, you're already scoring at 4-5 an over how much further do we need to go with it to live up to this mantra...it's a test match ffs!

Then all the drops and no balls and general ineptitude in the field has kept them in the game.

Will be extremely disappointing to lose this.

Batting the way they do is as crazy as declaring with 8 down. You cannot criticize one and praise another -- it comes with the territory.

I also think their style is going to end in a series defeat for them, but criticizing just the 1 crazy decision isn't consistent imo.
 
Batting the way they do is as crazy as declaring with 8 down. You cannot criticize one and praise another -- it comes with the territory.

I also think their style is going to end in a series defeat for them, but criticizing just the 1 crazy decision isn't consistent imo.
Nah, I don't think that's true.

Batting the way they do isn't crazy. They don't have solid defences. It's generally working okay, better than Crawley, Duckett, Pope hanging around blocking then nicking off. They say it's due to "improving test cricket" but really it's also about hiding the shortcomings of many of the players that can't compose long innings. It just sounds good to be performing this altruistic feat, but really it's coinciding with what works for the personnel.

What it doesn't mean is making tactical blunders with declarations. Two different areas. No need for it, time isn't in the game, that score isn't anything to write home about - guy set on 100+, just get a score. It could quite literally cost them the game.
 
We've seen batting be very difficult in the one gloomy period we've had so far, so I I'd be quite keen to get on assuming it doesn't turn out to be blue skies.
It’s been such an exciting test, be a shame if it was a clear day and Aus slow-marched to victory
 
I know the declaration will get lots of discussion, but it’s not what will lose us the test. The batting today simply wasn’t good enough against Lyon and Cummins.
 
Think Australia are going to chase this down quite comfortably.

The declaration on day 1 killed us. I admire the bravery but it was the wrong call.
 
I think dropping Foakes was the bigger error, on recent test form ( from memory at least) it’s not even like he’s been a liability with the bat.
 
I think dropping Foakes was the bigger error, on recent test form ( from memory at least) it’s not even like he’s been a liability with the bat.

Yeah he has to be in that team for Lord's but presume changes won't be made