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Can't see anything other than an England win from here on in.

Disappointing again from Pakistan. The yahoo shots + slow economy has killed us across three tests now.

And again - the batsmen that can make a start and get themselves 30/40 can't convert that into a 60/70.

The batsmen that can get a 50/60 (Babar...) can't turn that into a 100+. That's what you need at this level...especially in a home series.
 
Really happy for Rehan Ahmed...5 for on a debut! Great stuff (and dad is in the stands)!
 
I can't remember the last time spinners got 9 wickets in an innings for us. Did it happen in the Swann or Underwood days?
 
I can't remember the last time spinners got 9 wickets in an innings for us. Did it happen in the Swann or Underwood days?

Panesar and Swann must have done it in the India tour that England won in 2012/13.

Edit: They took 19 of the 20 wickets in the 2nd test of that series!
 
Nasser Hussain and Athers are quite nauseating on commentary. Get Gower back on.
 
Panesar and Swann must have done it in the India tour that England won in 2012/13.

Edit: They took 19 of the 20 wickets in the 2nd test of that series!

Thanks, makes sense it was that series I guess. Still, that's a decade ago so it's not common!
 
Another nightwatchman or will they send out Pope/Root?
 
Ah, it's Stokes - wants to finish this today it seems.
 
Thanks, makes sense it was that series I guess. Still, that's a decade ago so it's not common!

Think Spinners must have gotten 9 wickets in an innings against India in Ahmedabad even with just Root and Leach.
 
Think Spinners must have gotten 9 wickets in an innings against India in Ahmedabad even with just Root and Leach.

I've taken a look and it's happened a couple of times. The best one was 2021 against Sri Lanka when pacers took 10 in the first innings and spinners took 10 in the second (Bess, Leach, Root)
 
OK it’s not the greatest Pakistan side, but this is the first time they’re going to be white washed in a home series in Pakistan. For England (or any other country for that matter) to win 3-0 in Pakistan is astonishing. 9-1 record under Baz & Stokesy. AND consider where England were just 6 months ago. I must be dreaming.
 
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OK it’s not the greatest Pakistan side, but this is the first time they’re going to be white washed in a home series in Pakistan. For England (or any other country for that matter) to win 3-0 in Pakistan is astonishing. 9-1 record under Baz & Stokesy. AND consider where England were just 6 months ago. I must be dreaming.
Shows how far we’ve come for me to say this, but that “1” is really annoying :lol:
 
Leach 15 wickets for 669 runs, at an average over 44. Economy rate nothing special compared to other England bowlers. Both Jacks' and Root's wickets cost just under 40. Ahmed 7 wickets for 137 runs, though avoided the difficult bowling conditions in the first test.

Leach's overall test bowling average is 34.5, with an economy rate of 2.97, batting average 13.03.

Dom Bess 33.97, with an economy rate of 2.93, also batting average of 22.78

Moeen Ali 36.66, economy rate 3.61, batting average 28.29

Swann 29.96, economy rate 2.98, batting average 22.09

Panesar 34.71, economy rate 2.78, batting average 4.88

The case for Leach being a regular in the test team looks very weak. Clearly we don't know how Rehan Ahmed will perform in less favourable conditions.
 
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Leach 15 wickets for 669 runs, at an average over 44. Economy rate nothing special compared to other England bowlers. Both Jacks' and Root's wickets cost just under 40. Ahmed 7 wickets for 137 runs, though avoided the difficult bowling conditions in the first test.

Leach's overall test bowling average is 34.5, with an economy rate of 2.97, batting average 13.03.

Dom Bess 33.97, with an economy rate of 2.93, also batting average of 22.78

Moeen Ali 36.66, economy rate 3.61, batting average 28.29

Swann 29.96, economy rate 2.98, batting average 22.09

Panesar 34.71, economy rate 2.78, batting average 4.88

The case for Leach being a regular in the test team looks very weak. Clearly we don't know how Rehan Ahmed will perform in less favourable conditions.


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Leach 15 wickets for 669 runs, at an average over 44. Economy rate nothing special compared to other England bowlers. Both Jacks' and Root's wickets cost just under 40. Ahmed 7 wickets for 137 runs, though avoided the difficult bowling conditions in the first test.

Leach's overall test bowling average is 34.5, with an economy rate of 2.97, batting average 13.03.

Dom Bess 33.97, with an economy rate of 2.93, also batting average of 22.78

Moeen Ali 36.66, economy rate 3.61, batting average 28.29

Swann 29.96, economy rate 2.98, batting average 22.09

Panesar 34.71, economy rate 2.78, batting average 4.88

The case for Leach being a regular in the test team looks very weak. Clearly we don't know how Rehan Ahmed will perform in less favourable conditions.

Dom Bess is barely doing anything in test cricket and the others are not playing test cricket so it doesnt matter what their stats are. England are challenged when it comes to spin bowlers at the moment. There is a real shortage. Hopefully Ahmed kicks on. There is Parkinson and Virdi but otherwise you are struggling. Will Jacks is certainly not the answer.
 
Leach 15 wickets for 669 runs, at an average over 44. Economy rate nothing special compared to other England bowlers. Both Jacks' and Root's wickets cost just under 40. Ahmed 7 wickets for 137 runs, though avoided the difficult bowling conditions in the first test.

Leach's overall test bowling average is 34.5, with an economy rate of 2.97, batting average 13.03.

Dom Bess 33.97, with an economy rate of 2.93, also batting average of 22.78

Moeen Ali 36.66, economy rate 3.61, batting average 28.29

Swann 29.96, economy rate 2.98, batting average 22.09

Panesar 34.71, economy rate 2.78, batting average 4.88

The case for Leach being a regular in the test team looks very weak. Clearly we don't know how Rehan Ahmed will perform in less favourable conditions.
As I said earlier Leach is a bang average test bowler.

Underwood's stats showed what a top class spinner can do.

25.83 with an economy rate of 2.10 and close to 300 test wickets (297). Although his batting did leave a lot to be desired (11.56).
 
As I said earlier Leach is a bang average test bowler.

Underwood's stats showed what a top class spinner can do.

Economy rate 2.10 at 25.83 and close to 300 test wickets (297). Although his batting did leave a lot to be desired (11.56).

Isn't that the guy who played on wet, uncovered and supportive pitches? Isn't really fair to compare ancient bowlers with those playing today.
 
Isn't that the guy who played on wet, uncovered and supportive pitches? Isn't really fair to compare ancient bowlers with those playing today.
I've got to admit that does have some truth to it. There used to be a saying that England carried Underwood like an umbrella in case of rain. However, having said that, if uncovered pitches were so difficult to bat on, how did Bradman manage to average almost 100 playing on them?