England V India

If my auntie married an Indian, my cousin would've been part Indian.
 
Spoony said:
If my auntie married an Indian, my cousin would've been part Indian.

Your cousin would also smell and be rubbish at cricket.
 
Slabber said:
When in fact they can never get above fast medium and are smelly and shit.

Yes. But if he was a Sikh, my cousin would've been a brilliant spinner.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Stop talking in the air.. anything could have happened. If Trescothic had been fit you wouldnt have had an opener scoring almost 200 runs in the game.

Thats a very short-sighted and not too intelligent statement. Tresco is our opening batsman, and is well capable of such a knock as Cook produced and I may add at a much higher strike rate. Comparing that scenario to Ian Blackwell, who did feck all over the whole 5 days with ball, bat or in the field, in for our best seamer (who maybe you think would also have done feck all) is just a ridiculous thing to even imply. And you know it.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Stop talking in the air.. anything could have happened. If Trescothic had been fit you wouldnt have had an opener scoring almost 200 runs in the game.

If Jones was around, India could have been forced to follow on on the second day.

Shame he's a sicknote.
 
spinoza said:
They should bring Alex Loudon in from the West Indies.

I havn't seen much of him, how does he compare to the rest of England's spinners?
 
Dowders_Jnr said:
Thats a very short-sighted and not too intelligent statement. Tresco is our opening batsman, and is well capable of such a knock as Cook produced and I may add at a much higher strike rate. Comparing that scenario to Ian Blackwell, who did feck all over the whole 5 days with ball, bat or in the field, in for our best seamer (who maybe you think would also have done feck all) is just a ridiculous thing to even imply. And you know it.
Hes a good bowler but its stupid to say you would win the game had he played. Anything might have happened.. he obviously couldnt possibly have done worse than Blackwell but then what are the odds on Trescothic making as many runs as Cook did. It all evens out.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Hes a good bowler but its stupid to say you would win the game had he played. Anything might have happened.. he obviously couldnt possibly have done worse than Blackwell but then what are the odds on Trescothic making as many runs as Cook did. It all evens out.

The fact that Trescothick is our main and most reliable batsman actually makes it more than a half decent chance, especially given that Cook, talented as he is, was a debutant. By the way, I never definitively said that we would have won the game had Jones been playing, I said it would be more than likely. That means that with 5 decent wicket takers compared to 4 (leaving Blackwell totally out of the equasion) our chances of victory would have increased considerably and you would have been put under a lot more pressure, particuarly on day 3.
 
Dubai_Devil said:
I havn't seen much of him, how does he compare to the rest of England's spinners?

Fletcher likes him. He's been trying to develop a doosra. Good with the bat too. But I think his county ave. with the ball is something like 38.00. I'm not sure if he would have that much impact yet.
 
Dowders_Jnr said:
Fletcher likes him. He's been trying to develop a doosra. Good with the bat too. But I think his county ave. with the ball is something like 38.00. I'm not sure if he would have that much impact yet.

He's better than Blackwell.

I'm better than Blackwell.
 
Dowders_Jnr said:
The fact that Trescothick is our main and most reliable batsman actually makes it more than a half decent chance, especially given that Cook, talented as he is, was a debutant. By the way, I never definitively said that we would have won the game had Jones been playing, I said it would be more than likely. That means that with 5 decent wicket takers compared to 4 (leaving Blackwell totally out of the equasion) our chances of victory would have increased considerably and you would have been put under a lot more pressure, particuarly on day 3.
And im saying Cook wouldnt have even played if Trescothic was fit. And he was crutual to England getting the scored they did.. the ease with which he played spin. Anyways this is all guesswork.. really doesnt matter.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
And im saying Cook wouldnt have even played if Trescothic was fit. And he was crutual to England getting the scored they did.. the ease with which he played spin. Anyways this is all guesswork.. really doesnt matter.

Don't look for an argument then.
 
I suppose the poms will drop Blackwell for Plunkett.

I'm not 100% sure about us though. On paper, Yuvraj for Laxman is the only logical change but there's an outside chance of young Piyush Chawla getting a debut. Did pretty well against them in the Board President's game didn't he?
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Im not. You brought it up.

Ummm, thats interesting. Firstly, you were never obliged to reply to my original post. Secondly you interperated everything I said in a manner that suited you, and then kept arguing against something I didn't even say, as well as contradicting me all the time. Then after all that you say it doesn't even matter. That is argumentative. If it doesn't matter, don't reply to the original post.

Knobhead.
 
He's also very bitter about how crap his beloved cricket team are.
 
Dowders_Jnr said:
Ummm, thats interesting. Firstly, you were never obliged to reply to my original post. Secondly you interperated everything I said in a manner that suited you, and then kept arguing against something I didn't even say, as well as contradicting me all the time. Then after all that you say it doesn't even matter. That is argumentative. If it doesn't matter, don't reply to the original post.
Dont post it if you dont want people to reply. You posted something that was irrelevant and im pointing that out.

Knobless.
 
Dealing with you is like wading through fecking treacle! Where did I say I didn't want anyone to reply? You came out with nothing but misconstrued bullshit to suit yourself and argue against something I hadn't even put forward. Why I wonder?

If you felt my point was irrelevant, you should have just ignored it.
 
Dowders_Jnr said:
If you felt my point was irrelevant, you should have just ignored it.
But i decided to point it out. I like to help my fellow posters improve.
 
Update on the Mohali pitch. Saw it in the news today morning. Much slower than the usual pitches there apparently. Well used through the domestic season so a little worn. Still a little grass on it but i'm sure they'll mow it down by tomorrow morning. So while it won't be dusty, you're nto going to get much bounce or movement either.

From what I saw, its quite likely to be on the slower side taking turn third day onwards. Bat first and win in my opinion.
 
Red-Indian said:
Update on the Mohali pitch. Saw it in the news today morning. Much slower than the usual pitches there apparently. Well used through the domestic season so a little worn. Still a little grass on it but i'm sure they'll mow it down by tomorrow morning. So while it won't be dusty, you're nto going to get much bounce or movement either.

From what I saw, its quite likely to be on the slower side taking turn third day onwards. Bat first and win in my opinion.
Lack of bounce was one reason why Kumble and Harbhajan didnt do too well last time.
 
Red-Indian said:
Update on the Mohali pitch. Saw it in the news today morning. Much slower than the usual pitches there apparently. Well used through the domestic season so a little worn. Still a little grass on it but i'm sure they'll mow it down by tomorrow morning. So while it won't be dusty, you're nto going to get much bounce or movement either.

From what I saw, its quite likely to be on the slower side taking turn third day onwards. Bat first and win in my opinion.

Sounds like cheating.

Typical.
 
I'm also a little worried about the possibility of it petering out into a draw. From what I saw neither the pacers nor the spinners are going to get too much out of it. So i don't see how either team is going to take 20 wickets.

The cricinfo guy seems to think reverse swing will play a big role but i'm not sure. Maybe half a session each day if that.
 
crappycraperson said:
I always said we will win the series, still confident.

If you don't, rest assured I'll be the first to point it out to you.
 
Other news is one of India's pacers isn't playing (Sreesanth), and a debutant is stepping up. As the Indian pace attack has looked ordinary, at best, post-World Cup, I don't think this debutant will be up for it.

Also, the Mohali pitch (if I remember correctly), has always been a batting wicket.. but neither team would want to bat on Day 5. Guess it's an important toss to win, for both teams.

Should be a good close game.. and hopefully, not another draw.
 
paintitred said:
Other news is one of India's pacers isn't playing (Sreesanth), and a debutant is stepping up. As the Indian pace attack has looked ordinary, at best, post-World Cup, I don't think this debutant will be up for it.

Also, the Mohali pitch (if I remember correctly), has always been a batting wicket.. but neither team would want to bat on Day 5. Guess it's an important toss to win, for both teams.

Should be a good close game.. and hopefully, not another draw.

Do keep in mind though that this debutant took a 10 for against you guys in the warm-up game out of which 7 were bowled. He got Flintoff and Strauss twice. Agreed it was only a Board Presidents XI but even so...

Agree about everything else though. Mohali has always been a batting pitch and given the wear of an entire season on it, the toss is going to be crucial.