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England V Australia
3rd Ashes Test
Edgbaston, Birmingham
30th July - 3rd August 2009

The third Ashes test takes place at Edgbaston in Birmingham between 30 July – 3 Aug, 2009. Edgbaston has been a regular Test match venue for over fifty years and recently the grounds men have produced wickets that brings results. The crowd capacity is currently 21,000 and it home to Warwickshire County Cricket Club.

Edgbaston's most recognisable feature is the Thwaite Memorial Scoreboard, at the City End of the ground.

England have had a relatively good record at Edgbaston over the years. In the Ashes, England have won 5, Australia 3 and 4 have been drawn.

The Ashes 2005 match here was one of the most exciting ever, with England winning by just 2 runs in the closest even finish in 128 years of Ashes cricket.

Though in 2001, Australia smashed England by an innings and 118 runs.

More recently, South Africa defeated England at Edgbaston in 2008. South Africa chased down 281, the highest ever successful test pursuit at this ground. Graeme Smith scored 154 not out to lead his team to victory.

Edgbaston is the ground where Brian Lara scored a world record total of 501 runs in a county match against Durham in 1994.

England squad: AJ Strauss (capt), AN Cook (Essex), RS Bopara (Essex), KP Pietersen (Hampshire), PD Collingwood (Durham), MJ Prior (Sussex, wkt), A Flintoff (Lancashire), SCJ Broad (Nottinghamshire), GP Swann (Nottinghamshire), JM Anderson (Lancashire), MS Panesar (Northamptonshire), IR Bell (Warwickshire), G Onions (Durham), SJ Harmison (Durham)

Australia Squad: R Ponting (c), M Clarke (vc), S Clark, B Haddin, N Hauritz, B Hilfenhaus, P Hughes, M Hussey, M Johnson, S Katich, B Lee, G Manou, A McDonald, M North, P Siddle, S Watson.

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Weather Forecast...

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Big question is, will Johnson be dropped? Would the pitch condition force Hauritz to be replaced by Stuart Clark?

Nevertheless I have every confidence that Australia will be able to overcome an English team which includes...


Ian Bell. :lol:
 
JezChan said:
Big question is, will Johnson be dropped? Would the pitch condition force Hauritz to be replaced by Stuart Clark?

Nevertheless I have every confidence that Australia will be able to overcome an English team which includes...

Ian Bell. :lol:
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Dont underestimate the Shermanator!!!

From what the groundsman was saying, it sounds like this is a pitch better suited to Clarke.

It may well be Clarke and Watson for Johnson and Hauritz or even North.
 
What happened to baz's thread?

Draw, I think.
Shame about the weather.
 
Anyone hear the interviews given by Strauss and Ponting earlier? Strauss was asked if this Australian team still had an aura about them. Strauss said that without disrespecting any of their players, who are all very good, he didn't think this could be said of the current side, simply because an aura is something that is built up over time.

Later on, this was pointed out to Ponting who was clearly nettled, and said something like "well, he wouldn't have said that after the game in Cardiff", yet when asked about England, pretty much gave the same answer as Strauss!

Maybe it's just me but I think Ricky's rather easily offended.
 
What odds on a draw?

With the weather expected and the curator saying a flat pitch's been prepared, I can't see any result..
 
Hughes dropped. The stupidity of our selectors never fails to amaze. Dropping a kid after 3 bad innings ffs.
 
this match all depends on therain and looking at the met office ,the rain will be the winner,they are fighting to get the ground fit to even start the match.
This test we will be lucky to see a full innings from either team.
 
Strange decision dropping Hughes. His technique is terrible but he's still a decent batsman.
 
Weather-wise, it's looking a bit more promising for today, apparently.

Surprised by the Aussies dropping Hughes, they are usually known for sticking with their picks, and waiting for them to come good.
 
It will either be a draw or and England win...by the way I'd like to congratulate England on regaining the Ashes...dropping Phil Hughes for Shane f*cking Watson and retaining pie thrower Johnson is highly moronic.
By the way it's not just the stupidity of the selectors, but it's another example of Ponting getting his mates a game.
 
Some explain to me What Kevin Pietersen did or did not do?

Lost on that one
 
bazalini said:
Why is one of the Best English Batsman in a generation not liked.
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He's also not really a great batsman. He's profitted from the awful 20/20 invention and bascially plays a lot of what used to be known as agricultural shots. His technique at Test level leaves a lot to be desired. He's too much hype for my liking.
 
Match abandoned without a ball being bowled.
 
Dans said:
He's also not really a great batsman. He's profitted from the awful 20/20 invention and bascially plays a lot of what used to be known as agricultural shots. His technique at Test level leaves a lot to be desired. He's too much hype for my liking.
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A test average of 49.96 and 16 100's suggests hes more than just hype.
 
bazalini said:
Why is one of the Best English Batsman in a generation not liked.
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Who doesn’t like him?

He has his critics. Recently he was criticised for his pre meditated sweep he played at Cardiff and then shrugging it off by saying it was unlucky because it flicked off his helmet.

Some say he should play more reasonably, others say he should be allowed to play the way he wants.

For me, he needs to find a happy medium.
 
This is from the orange update

12.06pm: Umpire Rudi Koertzen has just given his verdict on the state of the pitch and outfield. It's not too good. Although the pitch is fine, there's a "fairly muddy area" at deep cover. But he hasn't given up hope about getting started today. The next inspection will be at 2pm, and lunch is being taken early
 
bazalini said:
Hussein & Atherton said as much this morning that people within the game do not like him or his attitude
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Yeah, I think they each said they liked Pietersen as a bloke, but that the general public didn't warm to him in the way they do to Flintoff. Atherton speculated that it could be because he tries too hard to be loved, which maybe turns people off.
 
Dans said:
Fair enough. I'd be interested to see who the hundreds have come against though.
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3 vs India and West Indies.

2 vs everyone else (never played Bangladesh or Zimbabwe though).
 
And have those centuries led to wins for England?

I always have the feeling that he doesn't often manage to score hundreds when we really need them, save in one of the last Ashes matches in England of course.

A bit harsh as I think most of the England players over the past 10years are guilty of the same, but you have to aim high - the Australia team of the past 15 years is whom we should be looking to emulate.
 
Dans said:
And have those centuries led to wins for England?
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Now you're just grasping at straws.

How did Kevin Pietersen profit from the T20 revolution? He's been rubbish at T20 for the most part.

Also, Pietersen is one of the 3 or so batsmen whose average has never gone below 40 after having played 50 tests. That's some record.
 
There are actually 4 other current players who can boast similar success (averages over 40, close to 50 games or more):

Bell (46 games)
Collingwood (50)
Cook (45)
Strauss (64)
Vaughn (82)

What I miss from him (and most England players) is the ability to turn those 100s into massive scores like the best of the current Indian players seem to do, even the Sri Lankans nowadays (what a revelation in world cricket they have been over the past 20 years) and as did the stalwarts of that Aussie team that dominated world cricket for so long. Those players deserve the type of adulation (or hype) Pietersen gets more than he does. If he didn't have a bleached blond mohawk, he'd not be so noticeable.
 
Dans said:
Fair enough. I'd be interested to see who the hundreds have come against though.
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Maybe look it up yourself before writing him off.

Anyone who follows cricket must remember his 156 at the Oval in 2005 V Australia, so he can score them against the best opposition in the biggest games.

He has scored 100's against all of the major test playing nations and scored away 100s in every country that hes toured (Australia, India, Pakistan, WI, Sri Lanka, NZ).

But your right, after scoring 4,647 in 54 tests, he’s probably just over hyped!!!
 
Dans said:
There are actually 4 other current players who can boast similar success (averages over 40, close to 50 games or more):

Bell (46 games)
Collingwood (50)
Cook (45)
Strauss (64)
Vaughn (82)

What I miss from him (and most England players) is the ability to turn those 100s into massive scores like the best of the current Indian players seem to do, even the Sri Lankans nowadays (what a revelation in world cricket they have been over the past 20 years) and as did the stalwarts of that Aussie team that dominated world cricket for so long. Those players deserve the type of adulation (or hype) Pietersen gets more than he does. If he didn't have a bleached blond mohawk, he'd not be so noticeable.
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No, you misread what I said.

He's one of the 3 or so players in the world, ever, to never have their batting average go below 40 in their career. Proof that he's been consistently very good.
 
This is from Orange update
Maybe we will get some play but not looking good.

3.35pm: The umpires and captains are out in the middle, pushing a cricket ball into the turf around the bowlers' run-ups. One of the umpires hurls the ball into the ground and there's no bounce whatsoever. Not good. And Ponting doesn't look too happy (nothing new there then). But the weather is fair and a drying breeze should help.3.15pm: The sun's still out at Edgbaston as the mopping process continues. Let's hope for better news when the umpires inspect at 3.30pm. I
 
Dans said:
There are actually 4 other current players who can boast similar success (averages over 40, close to 5 gamesor more):

Bell (46 games)
Collingwood (50)
Cook (45)
Strauss (64)
Vaughn (82)

What I miss from him (and most England players) is the ability to turn those 100s into massive scores like the best of the current Indian players seem to do, even the Sri Lankans nowadays (what a revelation in world cricket they have been over the past 20 years) and as did the stalwarts of that Aussie team that dominated world cricket for so long. Those players deserve the type of adulation (or hype) Pietersen gets more than he does. If he didn't have a bleached blond mohawk, he'd not be so noticeable.
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It doesnt matter what coulur your hair is, or was in Pietersen case.

Pietersen has the second highest test run total after 25 tests of all time, second to Bradman. I expect thats why hes so highly rated.

The older Indian players like Sachin, Dravid, Laxman and Sehwag havnt scored huge hundreds in a while. Sachin is on a different level, that goes without saying. I think KP is right up with with Laxman and Sehwag and it wont be long before he passes Dravid.

For me, KP is a much better than the younger Indian players like Gambir and Yuvraj.
 
gaffs said:
It doesnt matter what coulur your hair is, or was in Pietersen case.

Pietersen has the second highest test run total after 25 tests of all time, second to Bradman. I expect thats why hes so highly rated.

The older Indian players like Sachin, Dravid, Laxman and Sehwag havnt scored huge hundreds in a while. Sachin is on a different level, that goes without saying. I think KP is right up with with Laxman and Sehwag and it wont be long before he passes Dravid.

For me, KP is a much better than the younger Indian players like Gambir and Yuvraj.
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He's nowhere as good as Dravid. Dravid's technically one of the best players the game has seen. Pietersen won't pass Dravid.
 
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