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England | right wing knuckle draggers on the streets
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This dickhead has been trying to stoke up something in Widnes saying a woman warned him that Islamist extremists are going to show up around the local church - even had the church comment on his post saying it is false.
That’s where I’m from (feel like we may have had this chat before) - was sent this before. Looks like dispersal order did its job as besides a few thugs moaning in Facebook and tagging the police I didn’t see much of anything go down.
Not well known in the sense she's done the rounds on TV, just mostly for twitter infamy.
I do know her name but not sure if I should share it, if mods give the greenlight I will, otherwise I'll play it safe.
It's there in the twitter thread anyway.
Yep, she's supposedly a good friend of that horrible Julia Hartley Brewer, a Murdoch favourite.
Knew Brighton wouldn't let down.
Beautiful
I found out my work colleague is a fan of Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins today.
Genuinely thought anyone with enough intelligence to articulate an opinion would be smarter than that, but apparently not. The thing is she isn't a racist she's just been sucked in to thinking these people aren't either and believing the bile they spew. Not sure quite how. Somehow there's a lack of ability to relate the people the likes of Robinson incite hatred against, to the people we see every day in our job and who she's always completely sympathetic and fair towards. Like people only become humans when you are dealing with them face to face.
What is good though is that from our discussion the riots have been a bit of an eye opener to her, because she IS intelligent enough to know you can't relate claiming you're protecting kids to smashing up Shoe zone and stealing all the shoes. Or dragging people out of cars and beating them up based on their nationality or skin colour. So she's had to distance and side herself against the views that sort of behavior relates to. And tomorrow I'll be bringing up that the people who don't hold these views went out and protested peacefully while keeping their neighbourhoods safe, and asking her which group she thinks her kids would actually be safer around.
Hopefully the past week will have opened the eyes to some of the reform voters as to exactly what they are aligning themselves with.
Daily Mail and Express front pages seem to have backtracked on their usual bile out of shame...who am I kidding they're shameless, the feckers didn't want the heat of being associated with the sheer thuggery over the week.
It's already boiling - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn47798gxx4o - and this the way to 'hurt' him, pressure the big multi-nationals to stop advertising on Twitter
Give it a few days and they'll have headlines about migrant invasions and other nonsense that's fed this fire in the first place. Scumbags.
Isn't it...!
The sort of image that can change the narrative.
It'll be interesting to see the tone tomorrow's headlines.
The power of the people is a great thing, now we need to make the rabble-rousers really pay.
The media all have one thing in common, they're dependent on advertising, pressure should be put on the advertisers to stop advertising or their products get will boycotted.
Musk is currently trying to sue some multi-nationals in the US for costing Twitter $$$ billions in lost revenue when they stopped advertising because of harmful content on the platform in 2022
The media all have one thing in common, they're dependent on advertising, pressure should be put on the advertisers to stop advertising or their products get will boycotted.
Musk is currently trying to sue some multi-nationals in the US for costing Twitter $$$ billions in lost revenue when they stopped advertising because of harmful content on the platform in 2022
I'm sorry, is the Mail now promoting women taking testosterone whilst taking stands against female athletes on the same basis?
How come none of this really happened in Scotland?
I think the moral of the story is that we'd all be better off without our inherently immoral sexual urges.
They were probably terrified of the Carry on up the Khyber scenario, the CAFs resident Scots collectively raising their skirts
I did google to try and find a answer and I found a article from The Sunday Times sayingThey were probably terrified of the Carry on up the Khyber scenario, the CAFs resident Scots collectively raising their skirts
"So, fear of migrants is growing everywhere. Mindless thuggery knows no borders and Scotland should be wary of complacency. It’s not that long ago that Irish immigrants were abused by Scots and sectarianism remains an issue in Scottish cities. However, there is one important reason, I think, why current immigration has been less of a problem in the streets of Scotland than in the rest of the UK: visibility. There just aren’t that many immigrants here to punch.
Scotland, as Humza Yousaf is wont to point out, is 95 per cent white. Migrants just don’t make it here. Of the record 745,000 who came to the UK in 2022 only 22,000 went on to locate in Scotland. This is despite attempts by the Scottish government to encourage more foreign workers to take up residence here."
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotlan...eding-ground-for-far-right-politics-kjhh3m8cg
I didn't know the figures accurately but I knew the levels were low, the Irish thing goes back over 100+ years but sectarianism is a completely different thing to current events even though mindless thuggery is the same everywhere
Hard to say for sure.
Scotland certainly seems to have less problems with anti-immigrant sentiment and racism than England. It's also a place that has lower levels of immigration than England. People less likely to put the blame on that if they're disastified with how things are going seems quite a likely theory to me anyway.
You could say the same about Northern Ireland though when it comes to immigration levels and it happened in Belfast. There was even that photo of rioters with a British flag and Irish flag together following recent events south of the border.
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I just listened to a pocast from The Rest is Politics - Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell, the latter mentioned the 2000 Terrorism Act, he read out the cover page of what the Act covers and he was lierally describing the events of the last week, he said after reading that anone who was charged under this Act would need a bloody good lawyer to get them off the charges being related to said Act.
That suggests to me that the prosectors would be justified in using terrorism charges, he also read out what the legal definition of what a riot is, after hearing that I was thinking there's a riot in pretty much every town and city on a daily basis, apparently, in the legal sense, it is defined as 3 or more people causing trouble in a way that's seen at most pubs at chucking out time!
That suggests to me that the prosectors would be justified in using terrorism charges, he also read out what the legal definition of what a riot is, after hearing that I was thinking there's a riot in pretty much every town and city on a daily basis, apparently, in the legal sense, it is defined as 3 or more people causing trouble in a way that's seen at most pubs at chucking out time!
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This phase will all be over soon enough, it'll start raining and people will stay home but it'll happen again unless steps are taken.
It's certain that people have been triggered by malicious actors on social media spreading lies and disinformation to serve their political objectives, but there's only a receptive audience for it due the poverty and neglect that a lot of people are suffering from.
It's easy to call them knuckle draggers, but people with meaningful lives, good jobs, and functioning public services aren't susceptible to the lies being pumped out on social media.
It's certain that people have been triggered by malicious actors on social media spreading lies and disinformation to serve their political objectives, but there's only a receptive audience for it due the poverty and neglect that a lot of people are suffering from.
It's easy to call them knuckle draggers, but people with meaningful lives, good jobs, and functioning public services aren't susceptible to the lies being pumped out on social media.
Scotland population makes up about 8% of the UK total. 22k out of 745k is about 3% so lower than expected if immigration was spread out evenly across the country. Immigration and general demographics doesn't work that way though. If you move to another country, then the likelihood is you will be moving to a major city for work/lifestyle. England has far more large cities than Scotland so will attract more people.
Same applies with internal migration. 80%+ of the UK population live in cites/urban areas. Pre-industrialisation, it was something like 10-15%. Scotland pre-industrialisation made up 20-30% of the total UK population compared to 8% today for context.
If people are willing to uproot themselves, then they will go to the places they think will give then the best outcomes and opportunities in life.
I'd say scotland didn't have riots because it wasn't targeted. I'm kind of surprised by not getting anything in Ireland after last November but I wouldn't be surprised if that was a test run for the events of last week. There's lots of useful idiots clearly but I'd be shocked if there wasn't a significant level of orchestration too.
I thought he wanted sponsors to all go and F themselves?!
asylum seekers are desperate, not stupid.
So just been thinking about the people involved in this.
The funny thing is some people don't consider the fact that these kind of people are only pretending to hate this big national problem that they fabricate in their mind. If they applied for a job and somebody else got it, they'd be praying they lost it to an immigrant. People coming over on small boats is like giving these awful rioters a day ticket to Disneyworld.
It gives them something to do and a sense of purpose. Like look at those people there, and these people from deprived areas. They have nothing to do. At most, a part time job, maybe not even that. Just absolutely nothing to do, and no credentials or anything to do anything about it. No motivation or energy. So they just go to the pub and spend time with likeminded people, who are just so desperately unhappy and as equally as bored that they need to find something, just something that gives them a little bit of excitement and something to direct this anger towards, cos I bet they are so close knit in their dingy as feck pubs that there is almost a hive mind existence.
So they just go online and literally search for whatever agrees with them and take the first thing that comes up as truth because nobody ever taught them critical thinking and they can't emotionally take the fact that they have nobody to blame for their total lack of motivation and energy but themselves. So they find something online like that london mayor approves sharia law (or as it was written, shakira law) and without a wasted nanosecond, they are straight down the pub, running like Charlie Bucket with his golden ticket to share this "information", and of course everyone is going to agree with them, because they know if they don't agree, bang, that's them deported from this "community" and they become a social pariah. So with all this, as soon as Tommy Robinson/Musk/Farage even breathed the word Muslim. That was it. They felt more motivation and excitement than they've had in years and off they go.
It's incredibly sad.
The funny thing is some people don't consider the fact that these kind of people are only pretending to hate this big national problem that they fabricate in their mind. If they applied for a job and somebody else got it, they'd be praying they lost it to an immigrant. People coming over on small boats is like giving these awful rioters a day ticket to Disneyworld.
It gives them something to do and a sense of purpose. Like look at those people there, and these people from deprived areas. They have nothing to do. At most, a part time job, maybe not even that. Just absolutely nothing to do, and no credentials or anything to do anything about it. No motivation or energy. So they just go to the pub and spend time with likeminded people, who are just so desperately unhappy and as equally as bored that they need to find something, just something that gives them a little bit of excitement and something to direct this anger towards, cos I bet they are so close knit in their dingy as feck pubs that there is almost a hive mind existence.
So they just go online and literally search for whatever agrees with them and take the first thing that comes up as truth because nobody ever taught them critical thinking and they can't emotionally take the fact that they have nobody to blame for their total lack of motivation and energy but themselves. So they find something online like that london mayor approves sharia law (or as it was written, shakira law) and without a wasted nanosecond, they are straight down the pub, running like Charlie Bucket with his golden ticket to share this "information", and of course everyone is going to agree with them, because they know if they don't agree, bang, that's them deported from this "community" and they become a social pariah. So with all this, as soon as Tommy Robinson/Musk/Farage even breathed the word Muslim. That was it. They felt more motivation and excitement than they've had in years and off they go.
It's incredibly sad.
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I meant the rioters. Sorry, phrased that poorly.
Absolutely none taken (and I'm not a Muslim). Tone often sounds harsher online than actually intended.
All I was saying is that they definitely exist. I wouldn't disagree with the overall point that the overwhelming vast majority of practicing Muslims though wouldn't recognise something called 'half' Muslim at all.
Its a difficult topic and not one that's easy to summarise in short posts on a football forum.
Obviously what your grandma went through was racism. Of course white people can be subject to racism. White people in the UK who have other heritage who I know also maintain close links to that heritage, in the same way brown and black people do. The Poles, Italians, Greeks, Portuguese, Germans, French, Norwegians, Spaniards, Swiss etc etc who are either mixed or have decided to make London their home all continue to consider themselves at least partly from that culture and maintain aspects of it. They see no contrast or conflict at all between speaking Spanish at home, supporting Atletico, cooking paella, going to Spain every opportunity they get to visit family, being loud and warm etc etc, with also feeling British and loving living in this country.
But let's be completely clear on something. Its horrible to even use this term but its sadly true. They can visibly 'merge' into the local population in a way that Somalis or Ghanians or Chinese or Bengalis will not. Ever. I know Bengalis who have been here 3 generations. 3. They are so integrated. English their first language, all uni graduates, contribute to the economy and society, love this country (its their only country), some in mixed relationships. Yet all terrified by the recent activity, knowing that the colour of their skin will always mark them out to some.
Lee Anderson was piping up recently about 'migrants' taking over a hotel in his constituency. Turns out they were a group of nurses and their families having a nice break. Imagine that. Brown and Philipino nurses doing the jobs that white people in this country no longer see as worth doing and they get aired out by this idiot as migrants, while attacks are going on around the country on migrant hotels.
Going back to the Argentina/France thing, it again kind of emphasises the point. France has white players of other European ancestry in their squad. Did they make it into the song? Or do they just disappear when the racism comes out to play?
People can be both proud to be British (and have been British for generations) and still eat jollof rice or curry or whatever their national cuisine happens to be. And be proud of both. That isn't a logical inconsistency.
Not so brave when there's no garbage bins to set fire on or a hotel.
Think that'll be it for rioting now. Think the punishments being dished out (should be even harsher imo), and the amount of people having anti-protests will deter them.
I've deactivated my Twitter account as a result of all this, so I can't see replies anymore. I'm sure I'll read it somewhere soon though, thanks.
Talking of hate marchers you've got the likes Lee Harpin and other very pro Israeli 'left wingers' complaining about palestine flags at the marches last night...
Yeah, love this.I remember in my teen years I was part of the local communist youth, to be honest no one gave two fecks about communism, but almost every weekend we'd find out were the racist fascists would be and we'd show up in greater numbers, invariably those pussies just showed up, hurled a few racist insults and disappeared.
I feel they need to feel this again, wherever they show up, anti-racists and anti-fascists need to be there in much larger numbers. They feel like they are the silent majority, they need to be shown they're not, they're the opposite, a loud minority.
Last time those feckers tried to gather in one of lisbon's main squares to protest too many indians and pakistanis, a couple thousand people just showed up. They were about 200 and fecked off in about 15 minutes. I'm proud I was there.
I think working class people turning up to oppose these scum is always gonna have a bigger impact than people think. It's a shame there's a lack of organisation day to day to make sure this is a message that gets filtered through to the media so they stop thinking far right voices are the voices of the working class.
There's a really good book called No Retreat from a guy called Steve Tilzey that looks at things like anti fascist action and United fans involvement.
Those pics are restoring some faith in humanity. Well done normal people of England.