England | right wing knuckle draggers on the streets

It’s wild how much potential damage one man several thousand miles away can do. How he was allowed to buy Twitter is beyond me. At the very least his posts should be blocked in the UK. If that’s even possible. Although good chance that would spark more hate and rioting.
 
Elon might be a piece of shit but he's a clever businessman. He's appealing to the demographic that can boost his Twitter metrics.
 
The area around Piccadilly gardens (particularly as it approaches Oldham Street) has become a focus for a lot of VERY dodgy types in the last few years. It used to be the case that you would get a few homeless people and drug addicts shambling about in that area of an evening...but now there are a lot of people looking to exploit commuters /tourists people trying the food market stalls and passing through town.

Some genuinely look like victims of Human trafficking and seem completely out of it. The atmosphere can get very scary - and that's coming from someone who used to work in town for many years. I now use the back streets / ancoats route or the tram if I have to get from Piccadilly to another part of town.

Periodically GMP do a sweep of the area ahead of major events and it seems great - Like for example when City played Real Madrid on 18th April 2024 town was full of fans but there was little or no trouble. The next evening I was in town and it was absolute carnage - it was like there were little turf wars kicking off everywhere as "the dispossessed" had been allowed back into town and were trying to reclaim their favourite spots. I had planned to go and find a place to eat but just gave up and ordered into my hotel.
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The 100 yards between the McDonald's and Wetherspoons in Manchester Piccadilly is perhaps the most sordid stretch of pavement the UK has to offer.

Last time I went a there was a christo telling everyone they are going to hell. I binned his leaflet in front of him
 
Rumours of them marching from Old Market in Bristol towards Easton tomorrow. I lived there for a year and it’s got a sizeable Asian and Muslim population. We had nothing but lovely interactions whilst living there so I really hope this is just rumour. We’ve also got friends still living in Easton who have a young baby and they’re extremely worried about tomorrow.

Absolute scumbags. Bristol has always been one of the more progressive parts of the UK in my experience as well.
 
Yep. Blame the Tories and media for cooking this shit up for years.
Yes, the hard right are testing Starmer's metal and sending in their 'beserkers' first. The hidden (yet implicit) threat being "you had better see off the small boats... or else!"
 
Regarding the platform, unsure.

Tesla meanwhile, plenty of things the government can look at.
If China can block stuff I'm pretty sure the UK could if it wanted to, of course there's always ways around it but you need to be brighter than most of the people we're talking about here to do it
 
Not followed this closely but from what I understand young girls were murdered by a Muslim man which the right wing bigots have politicised and weaponised to spread anti Muslim hatred (which is their usual card) and sadly, violence too. Correct?

Wrong. The murderer wasn't a Muslim person, in fact it's been reported he had no known links to Islam at all. Deliberate misinformation was spread about this person immediately after the murder, like within minutes, before the police even had time release any kind of statement. The misinformation was that he was a Muslim asylum seeker who came to the England on a boat recently. A fake Muslim sounding name was spread by right wing grifters. Based on that information, people were bussed into Southport to 'protest' which inevitably turned into a riot in front of a mosque and a fight with the police while lobbing bricks at the mosque.

The following day, mosques in other cites like Liverpool were targets of vandalism and rioting, whilst rioters were very blatantly patrolling the streets looking for any brown/black person to beat up. After that, it spread to multiple cities with the looting, rioting, arson etc that you've been seeing with a couple of hotels housing asylum seekers being attacked.

Meanwhile the murderer was charged and his name was released. It was a, most likely, Christian guy who was born in the UK to Rwandan parents.
 
If China can block stuff I'm pretty sure the UK could if it wanted to, of course there's always ways around it but you need to be brighter than most of the people we're talking about here to do it
There's the trouble though. We don't want to live in a country where we can say our government has taken the same action as that of China, which is essentially a dictatorship which censors and limits the free speech of its people.

Most people would have a problem with that as a point of principle, but Tommy Two Names and his pals on the right will have an absolute field day with that.

Plus there are multiple ways to circumvent tech barriers, so it'd be doomed to failure anyway.

Frankly, I'm at a total loss as to how we deal with platforms like Twitter with owners like Musk.
 
Was talking to my upstairs neighbor this morning and she told me her daughter (who lives in Liverpool and is married to a moroccan, they have 2 kids) have decided to leave the UK at the end of this year because of these events.
 


:lol:. Really shows what a mess we're in when people are using Andrew Tate as a source of news.
 


:lol:. Really shows what a mess we're in when people are using Andrew Tate as a source of news.


Absolute car crash interview. Everything he says here makes him sound even more of a dimwit than he already is.

Like, genuinely, how on earth would Andrew Tate who is wanted by UK authorities and is hiding out in Romania, know anything about British Intelligence? :lol:
 
An 'active' Muslim. I take it from Nigel's intonation that they are the worst ones.
 


:lol:. Really shows what a mess we're in when people are using Andrew Tate as a source of news.


He knows he has fecked up massively, hence his evasiveness and overall irritability.

Hope the police do knock on his door
 
Was talking to my upstairs neighbor this morning and she told me her daughter (who lives in Liverpool and is married to a moroccan, they have 2 kids) have decided to leave the UK at the end of this year because of these events.
Trouble is for the majority of us, these same people trashing the towns and cities all voted to lock us into the UK and throw away the key, so we're stuck here and no longer have the right to leave.
 
Was talking to my upstairs neighbor this morning and she told me her daughter (who lives in Liverpool and is married to a moroccan, they have 2 kids) have decided to leave the UK at the end of this year because of these events.
Unbelievable. It's been quite a week of fear for a lot of people. So depressing.
 
Trouble is for the majority of us, these same people trashing the towns and cities all voted to lock us into the UK and throw away the key, so we're stuck here and no longer have the right to leave.

Brexit will never not be fecking insane.
 
Was talking to my upstairs neighbor this morning and she told me her daughter (who lives in Liverpool and is married to a moroccan, they have 2 kids) have decided to leave the UK at the end of this year because of these events.

I'm going to an Everton game with my wife at the end of August (she is non-white and Muslim) and she's a bit worried about it. I still don't think the general UK population really understands how much this impacts minority communities and people.
 
For anyone thinking “riots are bad, but”, I strongly recommend the newest Origin Story podcast.
 
Trouble is for the majority of us, these same people trashing the towns and cities all voted to lock us into the UK and throw away the key, so we're stuck here and no longer have the right to leave.
Luckily for them her husband has portuguese nationality, so they have plenty of countries to choose from. The english are not so lucky, the brexiteers were a bit like rorschach in watchmen, I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me.
 
my worry isn’t gut rot and baz using any excuse for a fight. that’s always happened. it’s how much this kind of sentiment is seeping through to younger, white males. i’d somewhat naively hoped older generations dying out and the younger ones, having the benefit of better education, the internet, readily available and cheap travel all culminating in a far more accepting society and one that sees pretty much everyone is the same. being the kind of guy i am, i have loads of friends, and it’s amazing how many of them just trot out immigration “facts” or start to bring up tommy robinson and the likes.

deep down they’re pissed off that they can’t afford to buy a house, that their wages are low and they don’t see the lives their parent’s have as achievable. they’re force-fed how it “used to be” and how it’s immigrants ruining everything. labour have a big job on their hands to move away from the bile spewed by the tories post-cameron, but if they try too quickly, they’ll just be labelled woke snowflakes.
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As long as there's those better off and those worse off this sort of thing will always happen, and the ones well off will always sow/redirect the division otherwise they end up being the target.

My worry is that having the Tories in charge for so long (particularly once Boris started to have an influence) has amplified this problem to the point its given the far right a foothold rather than them effectively being bridge trolls. The Tories started pandering to hate politics in their desperate attempt to stay in power, then Reform just stepped in as a sort of half way house between "I blame foreigners for the fact I have less money" and "Hitler was pretty cool".

A lot of the idiots smashing stuff up atm might be more people looking for an excuse to take out their anger than driven/devoted racists, but either way they end up being the foot soldiers, because they're fecking stupid and easy to manipulate as long as you pander to their anger.