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England | right wing knuckle draggers on the streets
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I think so, but surely the group chats will get leaked and prove otherwise
what's this all about?
Wonder if it's a passive aggressive 'meme' because that's what the 'establishment' said about Antifa
So this is still firmly an ongoing thing then? I assume Keir isn't knocking off on that holiday anymore.
You are not my mate, and you are not my fellow DJ!
So in NI they break out the plastic bullets. Why are English police so soft?
Possibly, they usually deflect by claiming its the 'MDL' that ordinary folk need to be concerned about. Wondering if thats what their Oberführers on their telegram channels are instructing them to say.
They have to do something before something horribly bad happens.
What the feck is the MDL?
Matthijs De Ligt
We have an Orange parade every year because I live in the town where William Prince of Orange first landed in Great Britain. There is a statue of him right outside my window that marks the point where he stepped foot off the boat.I wake up to.it every morning.
99% of those attending the parade are Scousers and every year they do their walk, bang their drums and then go to the pub and get smashed.and sing racist and offensive songs. They used to use my pub until I took it over and made it clear they weren't welcome. The second year I had the pub we had a large Irish family in for dinner who were absolutely disgusted and seriously outraged it was happening as the march came past the window.
The worst part for me is many locals don't understand why it's offensive and nobody seems to know who gives permission for it to happen each year.
Muslim Defence League supposedly, whatever that means.
Or thisMatthijs De Ligt
Funny there’s no such thing as MDL. The EDL made that name upMuslim Defence League supposedly, whatever that means.
Or this
Just read someone is in a serious condition having had their head stamped in Belfast last night, during an organised riot.
Was just thinking it was miraculous that no one has died as a result of this obscene display of violence. Hopefully this person recovers. Unless they're one of the knuckle dragging thugs that got caught in the crossfire, in which case I hope they recover well, but not before enduring a horrific headache while having to watch being treated and cared for by minority healthcare workers.
Aye, I'm shocked that there haven't been more serious injuries. From reading the report, it unfortunately sounds like it wasn't a knuckle dragger who was injured.
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Can't they leave Telegram alone? fecking scumbags.
There is something seriously wrong in the heads of people like this. Complete brain rot. I wonder if there is a way back, once you get to that point.
These riots. Are they all locals or is there an aspect of rent-a-mob in them as well.
You can usually see the regret in their faces when they have their sentences read out to them, realising they've ruined their lives for a brief moment of madness, and that the leaders they've put on pedestal aren't going to save them, nor remotely care about them rotting in a cell.
They literally ruin everything good.
Its a complete hassle.
It's hard to say exactly without audio of the exchange between the man and the group.
There's a slightly longer clip which starts a few seconds earlier and shows him approaching them and throwing his arms in the air, although it's unclear whether it was an arm movement that says "calm down guys what's all this about", or "bring it on then". The fact that his reaction to one guy coming up to him is to step forwards and raise his fists, rather than step back and make a peaceful gesture, and the fact that he's in a pub and is probably had a couple drinks, makes me lean towards suspecting the latter - but admittedly that's speculation on my part and my own preconceptions will affect that (as it does everyone's). But it does beg the question - why has this video been snipped to not include the earlier few seconds? Almost all of the videos I have seen posted by the far right have been somewhat like this. Showing a fight without context of who initiated it, what was said, why it occurred. Yet the far right descriptions and interpretations of these videos - and even images which show even less context - are devoid of any doubt or objectively. It's - "innocent white man casually minding his own business being attacked randomly by Muslim invaders who are strolling the street for no reason at all".
Of course the actions of the group are despicable as well - even if provoked, and we don't even know if they were or not. But so far, from the videos being shared by both sides, it's only the non-racist side that are showing videos in context, which show clear, undeniable, conclusive evidence of extreme violence aimed towards innocent members of the public, and public servants, morons openly using racial slurs, looting, damaging buildings and vehicles. Whereas the evidence being shown by the far right is conveniently inconclusive, yet is portrayed as conclusive evidence. There will be some exceptions to this general trend, but the overall trend is undeniable.
To anyone who is remotely sympathetic towards the rioters and populists and racists - please, don't dismiss this post. I've been down the rabbit holes you're in. There is some validity to your concerns, but it's far more nuanced and this is not the right course of action to take. Take a step back, look, really look at the content that is being fed to you by the far right grifters. You will see the deception. You're being lied to. You're being used. You're being tricked. The people lying to you and tricking you are not good people.
I hope that's just talk, the stuff that has gone is bad enough.
Something bad happens, then they will have to start saying they are a terrorist organisation.
A figment of the EDL's imagination.
Kinda feels like the stuff they've done so far should have them labelled as that already.
But, but, he was British?!
Not that it matters but I'm not sure I fully understand why @Fergies Gum got the boot. I think he just happened to be one of a number of people JAQing off at the same moment. Sure, he had some opinions about the Leeds rioters and oddly had nowt to say about the right wing violence but he's also had substantive posts which are anti-trump, pro-Harris and pro-peace in Gaza. Not that that's some sort of shield but the guy doesn't really seem to fit the mould of the one-and-gone right wing provocateurs some of the others do. I honestly think he might just have been clumsily making a crap point.
Did he really post the GB News bullshit in the Southport thread? There doesn't seem to be a record of it. Maybe it got deleted.
Did he really post the GB News bullshit in the Southport thread? There doesn't seem to be a record of it. Maybe it got deleted.
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It doesn't exist but those were in it are still around obviously. Only came up because the government and media started incorrectly mentioning the EDL. It kind of morphed into Football Lads Alliance, not sure if that's still around now either.
It's a tactic that many use; focus on an inaccuracy to dismiss everything else being said. From internet forums to debate clubs, to parliament and far-right twitter, everyone does it.
That’s a lot of lives about to be ruined there, and for what?
They posted the claim a couple of times from what I remember. Must have been deleted.
In which case I wonder if they deleted it or had it deleted for them. The former indicates a level of reflection.
Yeah he deleted it after being quick to post a very inciteful rumour twice.
He's also only temped.