England | right wing knuckle draggers on the streets

These far right cnuts are nothing but pussyholes. They go to towns where there's no sizeable muslim population to try and intimidate them.

They wouldn't dare step somewhere like Leicester Birmingham Blackburn etc.
 
F-Red said:
Referenced here - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly883p5yj8o
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And by labour here:


Violence in Birmingham 'won't be tolerated', MP says
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Some more now from the situation in Birmingham.

Jess Phillips, MP for Birmingham Yardley, says people there "are scared tonight".

"We have directed police to all locations of violence we are hearing about. Any acts of violence will not be tolerated," Phillips writes in a post on X.

She adds that police "attended site of earlier violence" and residents have told her "things have calmed".

Swing and a miss eh @van Nistelrooy.
 
They should set up a special court to handle all these cases, put the JSO judge in charge, if he gives 5 years for organizing a protest I'd love to see what he gives for active participation in 'so called' protests
 
Superunknown said:
I still don't see the logic in how trashing buildings, looting, attacking police, and getting arrested is supposed to help their cause. How does this make our country better? Sick of people in this world going around wrecking shit, leaving others with problems to fix. It's thick as pigshit mentality. You can talk about divisions in society, social classes, race, sexuality, colour, etc. But, generally, there are only two types of people really - builders and bulldozers.
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I've been thinking a lot about this, it's a really important point. I think it's clear that the idiots rioting and looting are carrying out the wishes of central figures of the populist movement, who at worst organise/encourage it, and at best offer only a face-saving mild criticism of the violence, followed by "but I did tell you so". For the thugs on the street it's a fun day out, an excuse to riot, a momentary sense of gratification in "fighting" for something they don't comprehend.

So how does having thugs rioting help the cause of the populist movement? I think that they think increasing racial tensions will help them further rabble rouse, put pressure on the government/public services, and ultimately win at the ballot box. I don't think their claim that they are fed up of not being listened to is the true cause - and if it is, then it's monumentally stupid and counter productive imo. It's a tried and tested technique, and one that has never worked in this country. It is a tactic than can draw a crowd, can turn 10 people into 100, or 100 into 1000 etc, but it is limited in scale. Using violence does not help them get listened to, it only discredits them. No negotiation with terrorists. They won't be able to claim "it's not fair, you didn't listen to us when we burnt a hotel with people inside". Of course we didn't fecking listen, and rightly so. If they can't get themselves heard maybe they need better fecking figure heads than Tommy Robinson and Lawrence Fox. If they can't get themselves elected, maybe they need better politicians than Nigel Farage.

The other option is that some are just pure grifters and trolls, and the riots are good for their popularity and they enjoy the chaos. I had a peak at Sargon of Akkad's twitter earlier (he was a gamergate anti-woke YouTuber now turned full right wing grifter) - and his PINNED tweet was him a month or so ago apologising to Jess Phillips for saying he wouldn't rape her, because he has "realised the detrimental impact of coarse political rhetoric" - and yet this week he has been praising literal criminal rioters as national heroes. They don't see the irony, or don't care. Coarse political rhetoric is bad, but violence is good? What the actual feck. They have gone so far down the rabbit hole that they now demonstrate all of the hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance that they accused the woke left of. And the left can be overly biased at times, out of a genuine desire to be kind and non-discriminatory. UKIP made the mistake of enlisting Carl Benjamin, PJW and a few other grifters thinking it would appeal to a younger demographic, but it backfired spectacularly. If Farage and Reform continue associating themselves with these people, the same will happen again. Massive own goal. A football hooligan with a criminal record as long as his midget legs is not going to further the political aspirations of their cause. He's got a successful track record of getting a few thousands yobs to protest/riot, but it's never progressed beyond that and never will.

Other aspiring leaders in the populist movement - Douglas Murray, Konstantin Kisin, for example - are sensibly keeping their mouths shut and just doing the "All political violence is bad...but I told you so". However, it's not going to work for them forever. That rat Konstantin is a smarmy wannabe intellectual who has been invited on Question Time and numerous other events/shows, and is desperately trying to forge a legitimate career as a "non-partisan, rational thinker" whilst click-baiting and dog whistling a rabid right wing audience online. Stick him on the next Question Time and ask him to condemn the violence, and watch him squirm to try and maintain his facade of respectability without angering his right wing audience.

I think/hope that millions of people who do follow these populists - but don't participate in the violence - will in due course look at it objectively and realise that they have been hoodwinked and are siding with the wrong people. The challenge is getting them to stick their heads out of the online echo chambers they are in. Because if they follow the likes of Farage, Sargon, Tommy Robinson etc, and get their news from just those platforms, then they will be fed a never ending cycle of news and opinion that reinforces their views. Because at the moment there's tonnes of "middle class Joe and Jane" who are silently enabling the violence by not condemning it. I hope that lengthy prison sentences for the most violent offenders in these riots, and publicising it front and centre all over the news, will shake many people out of it and get them to face reality. You can't defend burning a hotel with people inside it, and no rational political movement would result in burning hotels with people inside.

Sorry I've ranted and gone off from what you originally said, but it felt good man.
 
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What these Muslims lads are doing in Bham is so fking stupid on so many levels. They should have taken the high road. This is going to spiral out of control.
 
DavidDeSchmikes said:


this is so sad
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Heartbreaking. The protests in Northern Ireland have to be the most moronic in a week of insane stupidity.

Northern Ireland generally has low rates of immigration. This is illustrated by the 2021 census, which showed about 6% of the population had been born outside the UK or Ireland, and almost 97% of people described their ethnicity as white.

In 1972, the worst year of the early Troubles, net emigration was almost 24,000 people.

The peak year for net immigration was 2007 when it reached almost 11,000 people.

The most recent figures are for 2022 and show net migration of 2,300 people.
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The comments on Instagram pages are so fecking toxic. So much disgusting Islamophobia and trying to justify the fascist shitestains.
 
Ekkie Thump said:
Birmingham stuff as reported on twitter:




I have no idea if this footage is from today. The first account posted something from years ago as if it had happened yesterday - so not the most trustworthy account. The Independent seems to be reporting it though.

Edit: I think this might be the same group @Habs was praying didn't do anything stupid earlier. Sorry if that's not the case.
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Yes it’s that group. As expected these fecking idiots started to walk around and look for trouble once it became apparent EDL weren’t turning up. Not surprising really, not a brain cell between them. The fact they’re carrying the Palestine flag is also pathetic.

Now people may say this is a reaction following the events over the past face days and so on, but for me these guys should face exactly the same punishment as the rest of them. In fact for me I consider the events of this past week completely fit with the definition of terrorism and and it’s a shame that term has not been used.

What all these groups are doing is terrorising every day people, businesses etc. How frightening must it be to be driving and be surrounded by hundreds of masked people smashing your car, what do you do run them over?

I do feel Starmer needed a much stronger response than what he has provided so far
 
Habs said:
Yes it’s that group. As expected these fecking idiots started to walk around and look for trouble once it became apparent EDL weren’t turning up. Not surprising really, not a brain cell between them. The fact they’re carrying the Palestine flag is also pathetic.

Now people may say this is a reaction following the events over the past face days and so on, but for me these guys should face exactly the same punishment as the rest of them. In fact for me I consider the events of this past week completely fit with the definition of terrorism and and it’s a shame that term has not been used.

What all these groups are doing is terrorising every day people, businesses etc. How frightening must it be to be driving and be surrounded by hundreds of masked people smashing your car, what do you do run them over?

I do feel Starmer needed a much stronger response than what he has provided so far
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Indeed, lock em all up. Hopefully rubbishes this rhetoric about them being protected.
 
Jagga7 said:
What these Muslims lads are doing in Bham is so fking stupid on so many levels. They should have taken the high road. This is going to spiral out of control.
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It was inevitable. Throughout history, if a group of people feel persecuted by the violent actions from another group, then they are likely to fight back with venom. Some of the videos these Muslim lads would have been watching this weekend would have whipped up a lot of anger amongst them.

I'm not justifying the actions from those in Birmingham today. Two wrongs don't make a right. I'm just saying it would be surprising if they had taken the high road.
 
DavidDeSchmikes said:


this is so sad
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Extremely sad.

I’ve often thought to myself that those businesses in that area would be at risk of some sort of damage at some point just because of where they are located. Hopefully the ‘gofundme’ can enable him to set up shop again but this time in a better and safer location.
 
Nothing really of note in Scotland. Voted hard against Brexit as well. The only murmurings of activity are from Rangers fans, who think of themselves as English anyway.
 
calodo2003 said:
Christ, that's fecking disgusting.
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One of the deceased there is 30 years old and passed last year. Imagine being his parents and seeing your recently deceased son's grave desecrated for no reason other than sheer hate. Feckin scumbags.
 
Kaos said:
One of the deceased there is 30 years old and passed last year. Imagine being his parents and seeing your recently deceased son's grave desecrated for no reason other than sheer hate. Feckin scumbags.
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Even more revolting.
 
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