England | right wing knuckle draggers on the streets

There has to be more to it. Up in Scotland I don't think we've had any of this rioting, even in the massively deprived areas. And our level of nationalism is equivalent to England's - a different type of nationalism, granted, but still the same drum banging at the end of the day.

So what's different? I wish I knew.
Scotland needs and welcomes immigration does it not, just not the English variety
 
"Wharton's solicitor Isaac Mirza"

A lot of these knuckle draggers, including our own Tommy seem to have a penchant for Muslim/POC lawyers. Question is why these lawyers are so willing to represent these absolute dregs? Not an expert on the law but from what I understand there isn't a hippocratic-oath like obligation to represent every degenerate that requests your services, you could just - turn them down? Unless these same lawyers figured they were 'one of the good uns' so were exempt from the hatred and vitriol their would-be clients love to spread, until they realise they very much aren't (as was the case with Robinson's lawyer).

Most of them will be legal aid.

That operates on a rota, the solicitors don;t get a choice, they just take th enext case in line. This is deliberate to ensure every person gets representation, which is needed for a fair legal system. If it weren;t and it was on a volunteer basis, no one would represent the nonces, wife beaters and racist rioters.
 
Scotland needs and welcomes immigration does it not, just not the English variety
There's a huge amount of English people in Scotland but, leaving that aside, whilst it's true that Scotland needs immigration there's plenty of racists North of the Border and we're the hold standard in deprivation. It's more, I think, that they're missing the, for want of a better description, cause to galvanise around. Maybe disconnection from Westminster is part of that.
 
They are reporting it was to do with some of them making gun gestures, not so much the language. Is that different to a white guy doing a slitting the throat gesture.
 
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Wonder if two tier Kier will say anything about this.

Is this your sole post since the riots over the weekend?

Endless amounts of property damage, houses and businesses trashed, countless officers injured, people of colour indiscriminately attacked on the streets, buildings set on fire with people still inside of them, and THAT is what you felt the need to post :lol:

Am I assuming you were on board with everything until you came across that 'horrifying' clip?
 
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Wonder if two tier Kier will say anything about this.


For context, my parents live not too far from here. There has been several threats from EDL groups and messages that they were planning on meeting up at 5pm and doing what they’ve done in the North.

These areas are predominantly Asian, black and Eastern European communities. Many people have been worried there, I’ve actually had to take the day off and bring my parents to where we live and the GP surgeries in that area along with local business have closed.

The collection of people you are seeing there are waiting for the EDL to turn up- there was thoughts from the locals that the threats may have been empty and to provoke a mass turn out from the locals to show them in a bad light.

As of right now, no signs of the EDL
 
For context, my parents live not too far from here. There has been several threats from EDL groups and messages that they were planning on meeting up at 5pm and doing what they’ve done in the North.

These areas are predominantly Asian, black and Eastern European communities. Many people have been worried there, I’ve actually had to take the day off and bring my parents to where we live and the GP surgeries in that area along with local business have closed.

The collection of people you are seeing there are waiting for the EDL to turn up- there was thoughts from the locals that the threats may have been empty and to provoke a mass turn out from the locals to show them in a bad light.

As of right now, no signs of the EDL
Hope everybody stays safe.
 
For context, my parents live not too far from here. There has been several threats from EDL groups and messages that they were planning on meeting up at 5pm and doing what they’ve done in the North.

These areas are predominantly Asian, black and Eastern European communities. Many people have been worried there, I’ve actually had to take the day off and bring my parents to where we live and the GP surgeries in that area along with local business have closed.

The collection of people you are seeing there are waiting for the EDL to turn up- there was thoughts from the locals that the threats may have been empty and to provoke a mass turn out from the locals to show them in a bad light.

As of right now, no signs of the EDL
Oh, you can feel them waiting for a minority group to react. You can see it in that tweet from the Fox lowlife above. They're itching for it.
 
For context, my parents live not too far from here. There has been several threats from EDL groups and messages that they were planning on meeting up at 5pm and doing what they’ve done in the North.

These areas are predominantly Asian, black and Eastern European communities. Many people have been worried there, I’ve actually had to take the day off and bring my parents to where we live and the GP surgeries in that area along with local business have closed.

The collection of people you are seeing there are waiting for the EDL to turn up- there was thoughts from the locals that the threats may have been empty and to provoke a mass turn out from the locals to show them in a bad light.

As of right now, no signs of the EDL
Yeah this is my suspicion as well. The EDL are rumoured to be coming to my neck of the woods on Wednesday, and already I've got a few emotionally charged mates and family members suggesting we join up in numbers in a strong display of force to ward them off. I've very strongly suggested they do no such thing since their organised presence will likely be used as ammunition out of context to dignify the far-right fear mongering.
 
Hope everybody stays safe.

I hope so too mate, it’s actually a disgrace what’s happening in the UK right now. But I know it’s just a small minority who are extremely loud at this moment in time. I hope the groups in the above video don’t get baited into doing something stupid.

Just hope things settle down, and we can bring people together really, but that does seem like a dream at the moment.
 
I hope so too mate, it’s actually a disgrace what’s happening in the UK right now. But I know it’s just a small minority who are extremely loud at this moment in time. I hope the groups in the above video don’t get baited into doing something stupid.

Just hope things settle down, and we can bring people together really, but that does seem like a dream at the moment.
They need to rise above it all. I know it will be hard, but let the morons make themselves look even more moronic.
 
Oh, you can feel them waiting for a minority group to react. You can see it in that tweet from the Fox lowlife above. They're itching for it.

Yeah this is my suspicion as well. The EDL are rumoured to be coming to my neck of the woods on Wednesday, and already I've got a few emotionally charged mates and family members suggesting we join up in numbers in a strong display of force to ward them off. I've very strongly suggested they do no such thing since their organised presence will likely be used as ammunition out of context to dignify the far-right fear mongering.

Yep agreed, I think that’s exactly what they’re looking for, and then that reaction will be used as justification for all that’s happened. I hope these communities can just resist the temptation, because these guys are just scoring own goals at the moment
 
They are reporting it was to do with some of them making gun gestures, not so much the language. Is that different to a white guy doing a slitting the throat gesture.

Whilst depressing and pathetic that gun gesture is not a "threat".

It's what the cool kids do dont ya know. Pop pop pop look at me and even a hello.

Yes I'm being sarcastic.

Bit different from thumb across the throat as you or your mates a setting a residence in fire with you in it
 
She's bloody right though.
That Britain is thick as feck and full of factory workers and labourers. Not really. Yeah there’s these racist arseholes who are dull as feck and believe the wrong media but she’s just tarring all of Britain with the same brush the same as these racists are with Muslims and immigrants. Good rant but 7/10
 
They are reporting it was to do with some of them making gun gestures, not so much the language. Is that different to a white guy doing a slitting the throat gesture.
Would this be the guy doing the throat slit gesture outside the hotel the mob he was part of had under siege and was setting fire to?
 
They need to rise above it all. I know it will be hard, but let the morons make themselves look even more moronic.

Easier said than done when you see the damage being caused.

Locally only the mosque grounds had a presence and as I mentioned earlier in the thread imams and community leaders were out telling the lads in no uncertain terms that weapons and violence would not be tolerated. Literally saying they would "excommunicate' trouble makers.

Had the mosque been attacked though no body was under illusion that there would be retaliation.

Seeing the numbers there worked and the rioters kept away and targeted the easy pickings of quiet streets and businesses areas.
 
Financial support I assume?

I wonder if that'd something that could addressed, not just with immigrants but British nationals as well (might apply to a lot of those in these riots).

Not sure how it would look or even work, but maybe Financial support shouldn't be offered unless a contribution history through working has been built up. Or maybe capped for a certain period of time. Maybe something like this is already in place. I'm not that educated on this particular matter.

Make it less lucrative for everyone not just immigrants (exceptional circumstances not withstanding).
This is part of the problem. I really don't think that people in the midst of immigration processing receive anything but a bare minimum to cover living expenses. But the actual facts are nowhere near as well publicised and publicly available as all the misinformation and lies are.

Perhaps some money should be put aside to run campaigns getting the truth out to the public and start to nip it all in the bud on social media before it turns into a shit show free-for-all on the streets.
 
That Britain is thick as feck and full of factory workers and labourers. Not really. Yeah there’s these racist arseholes who are dull as feck and believe the wrong media but she’s just tarring all of Britain with the same brush the same as these racists are with Muslims and immigrants. Good rant but 7/10

She clarified that she was talking about the racist pricks and not all Britain's
 
This is part of the problem. I really don't think that people in the midst of immigration processing receive anything but a bare minimum to cover living expenses. But the actual facts are nowhere near as well publicised and publicly available as all the misinformation and lies are.

Perhaps some money should be put aside to run campaigns getting the truth out to the public and start to nip it all in the bud on social media before it turns into a shit show free-for-all on the streets.

Not sure if it's still the same. However a few years ago there was no money given. Just vouchers that could be exchanged for certain necessities at certain shops.

However what did happen was shops were happy to rip the migrants off and take say a £20 voucher and give a fiver in return without a purchase. Many migrants did this as they needed as the needed other things as opposed to what the vouchers could be used for.
 
This is part of the problem. I really don't think that people in the midst of immigration processing receive anything but a bare minimum to cover living expenses. But the actual facts are nowhere near as well publicised and publicly available as all the misinformation and lies are.

Perhaps some money should be put aside to run campaigns getting the truth out to the public and start to nip it all in the bud on social media before it turns into a shit show free-for-all on the streets.
X is uncontrollable. Serafinowicz just posted about UK suspending arms export licenses to Israel and almost all the replies are about "Islamification" of the UK. I really don't see how you get anywhere near interrupting the constant, pounding, omnipresent preset narrative there, never mind set the prevailing story. I don't think that you could throw enough money at that particular problem.
 
I see all the racist gammons are popping up on social media after being quiet referring to the footage above. When it's clearly explained that those people are there because the EDL was expected.
 
X is uncontrollable. Serafinowicz just posted about UK suspending arms export licenses to Israel and almost all the replies are about "Islamification" of the UK. I really don't see how you get anywhere near interrupting the constant, pounding, omnipresent preset narrative there, never mind set the prevailing story. I don't think that you could throw enough money at that particular problem.

They should heavily fine the company for allowing the spread of hate or ban it altogether.
 
That Britain is thick as feck and full of factory workers and labourers. Not really. Yeah there’s these racist arseholes who are dull as feck and believe the wrong media but she’s just tarring all of Britain with the same brush the same as these racists are with Muslims and immigrants. Good rant but 7/10
@Roane pointed out in his post she is talking about this lot, not British in general.
 
Christ, it's like talking to a 5 year old child

 
Not sure if it's still the same. However a few years ago there was no money given. Just vouchers that could be exchanged for certain necessities at certain shops.

However what did happen was shops were happy to rip the migrants off and take say a £20 voucher and give a fiver in return without a purchase. Many migrants did this as they needed as the needed other things as opposed to what the vouchers could be used for.
We could also allow asylum applicants to legally work and pay tax during their processing, like other countries do.
 
X is uncontrollable. Serafinowicz just posted about UK suspending arms export licenses to Israel and almost all the replies are about "Islamification" of the UK. I really don't see how you get anywhere near interrupting the constant, pounding, omnipresent preset narrative there, never mind set the prevailing story. I don't think that you could throw enough money at that particular problem.

There is a theory that the likes of Tommy are tools for certain "civil unrest" to scare the likes of Starmer on their stances on Israel and Palestine.

EDL was registered as the English and Jewish Defence League in 2014. Tommy is seen in certain attire on social media and standing with the IDL.

People quoting Barack Obama's memoirs where he speaks about Israeli players inundating the white House when he decided on freezing weapons. With his opinion that the threat of civil unrest and downfall of Congress was real.
 
I hope so too mate, it’s actually a disgrace what’s happening in the UK right now. But I know it’s just a small minority who are extremely loud at this moment in time. I hope the groups in the above video don’t get baited into doing something stupid.

Just hope things settle down, and we can bring people together really, but that does seem like a dream at the moment.
100% mate.