England | right wing knuckle draggers on the streets
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What an idiot.
How many cocks could a Woodcock cock if a Woodcock could cock wood?
Iran manipulating concerned citizens; those crafty persians.
He better fecking not.
I'd love a Prime Minster that doesn't take the fecking piss and actually takes the job seriously. Going on holiday while there's riots, racist attacks and looting.
Yeah he's not a normal person with an everyday job. Could postpone his holiday by a week.
I disagree, he shouldn't give them the headline of rushing back to deal with them, just make sure the courts are funded to rush them through, as Labour have done, and get as many punished as quickly and as harshly as possible which is what I imagine we'll see over the next couple of weeks.
This is a tiny minority of people in most places grabbing big headlines, which they love, in Bristol for instanmce there weren't more than 2-300 scrambled from the entirety of the south West. Don't make them feel anymore important than they already do, just shut them down and lock them up.
"Save our kids"
Woodcock is an actual scumbag. Not to sound like a loony lefty, but he, Mann, and Austin were given lordships by the Tories specifically for sabotaging Jeremy Corbyn.
Is extremism the price we pay for freedom?
As others have said in this context, nowadays almost every grouping, political, religious, etc. seems to be dominated by extremism/extremists elements. Whether its right/left.... even football fans have their 'ultras'!
What about accountability? Who now takes responsibility for their own actions, or the actions of relatives and friends. What happened to the notion of heads of families being responsible, whether married or in partnerships, whether male or female, etc. Is everything the responsibility of the state, politicians, teachers, police officers, religious leaders etc.?
As I understand it people can now just walk into a shop steal goods and walk out and nothing happens? We had recently that people found guilty of offences which required a prison sentence were being let out early, because the prisons were overcrowded... the mind boggles! OK maybe some of these people committed minor crimes, or were not dangerous, etc. then why were they in prison at all?
For at least half of my lifetime, society has made excuses for various almost everyday situations to arise, whether it was the tolerance of young men, behaving badly, who were reputedly overlooked because they were 'just sowing their wild oats' but who in reality were terrifying many girls/young women on a daily basis, or warnings given to bad neighbour's, which didn't really get resolved by restraining orders, just the problem being shifted elsewhere; vandalism much of it 'graffiti' initially ignored but then eventually accepted as 'street art' no matter who complained.
It's the small 'overlooks' that will do for us in the end.
As others have said in this context, nowadays almost every grouping, political, religious, etc. seems to be dominated by extremism/extremists elements. Whether its right/left.... even football fans have their 'ultras'!
What about accountability? Who now takes responsibility for their own actions, or the actions of relatives and friends. What happened to the notion of heads of families being responsible, whether married or in partnerships, whether male or female, etc. Is everything the responsibility of the state, politicians, teachers, police officers, religious leaders etc.?
As I understand it people can now just walk into a shop steal goods and walk out and nothing happens? We had recently that people found guilty of offences which required a prison sentence were being let out early, because the prisons were overcrowded... the mind boggles! OK maybe some of these people committed minor crimes, or were not dangerous, etc. then why were they in prison at all?
For at least half of my lifetime, society has made excuses for various almost everyday situations to arise, whether it was the tolerance of young men, behaving badly, who were reputedly overlooked because they were 'just sowing their wild oats' but who in reality were terrifying many girls/young women on a daily basis, or warnings given to bad neighbour's, which didn't really get resolved by restraining orders, just the problem being shifted elsewhere; vandalism much of it 'graffiti' initially ignored but then eventually accepted as 'street art' no matter who complained.
It's the small 'overlooks' that will do for us in the end.
I thought some of the main wars in the last half century were to kill extremism with our freedom?
Also where is this left wing extremism that our freedom has created?
True, but some of them seem thick enough to try it.
it’s easier than any introspection that forces you to consider if you might be part of the problem.
Honestly. So sick of both-sides nonsense.
Can we get an angry facepalm smilie?
That was existential threats, I am referring to our own internal wish to remain free.
I would consider Jeremy's brand of 'international socialism' a form of left wing extremism, of course I recognise others have different opinions.
Corbyn absolutely isn’t an extremist. He’s a pretty standard social democrat/democratic socialist.
Extreme freedomists
I'm not really sure history will see Corbyn as an extremist, and I'm also pretty sure his thinking was more a result of war and inequality than freedom.
Why do you consider Corbin's politics 'extremism?'
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It all comes down to either nationalism or religion in the end, like it always does, doesn't it. I don't care which sky fairies or flag people worship, but I feel like in 2024 it is a particular brand of stupid to start destroying ones own town or city over which person died in a desert 2000 years ago, nor which flag 'represents' anyone.
And as to people defending Corbyn, sad to say but pacifist policies he espouses seem to lead only to people taking advantage. Corbyn is a nice man and his politics are to be admired, but they are unrealistic in an amoral world where the Prisoners Dilemma is acted out every single day by psychopathic dictators on the global stage. Abandoning NATO and removing nuclear weapons is all well and good until someone willing to use them to take what you have gets them, and it's ridiculous to think that demilitarisation a possibility anymore while that particular nuclear pandora's box is opened. It's not that he's extremist, for me, it's more that he's either willingly or needlessly naive.
And as to people defending Corbyn, sad to say but pacifist policies he espouses seem to lead only to people taking advantage. Corbyn is a nice man and his politics are to be admired, but they are unrealistic in an amoral world where the Prisoners Dilemma is acted out every single day by psychopathic dictators on the global stage. Abandoning NATO and removing nuclear weapons is all well and good until someone willing to use them to take what you have gets them, and it's ridiculous to think that demilitarisation a possibility anymore while that particular nuclear pandora's box is opened. It's not that he's extremist, for me, it's more that he's either willingly or needlessly naive.
Aye, violence and riots on one hand being equated to Corbyn is the world we live in.
As I said others have different views. I attended odd Labour party meetings years ago with Jeremy present, I quite liked him, but a real 'nut-job'.... you could have knocked me over with a feather (him too I suspect) when he became leader of the Labour Party.
Going to be pretty bad in Rotherham today
Eight windows or so broken now.
feck Farage, the Mail, and all of the other cnuts who have caused this shit and refuse to take responsibility for any of it. And an extra feck you to the racist wankstains dumb enough to believe their lies because it fits their worldview that they're not to blame for their own lives being shite.
What do you mean by the bolded?
For me, regardless of the medium by which people consume information, they are still led by the nose to their conclusions by the vested interests of those with money, land, influence and power. The UK, and England in particular, is very much run by the upper class. They control every aspect of society and set the agenda. I think your 'overlooks' happen because they affect us to a greater extent and not them.
It's not a conspiracy to me, it's just that birds of a feather flock together. I wouldn't expect the grandkids of the 4th Earl of Marlborough to knock around with the kids of a plumber. They are indifferent to what happens on the streets. It doesn't affect them. Does anyone think that if a mob was loose on the estate, making their way towards a stately home, the police would just passively surround the building and allow themselves to be pelted with rocks, bottles and burning wheelie bins? I think the plastic bullets would be out in a nanosecond. And all the right wing cheerleaders in the media would applaud them for it.
Jeremy's left is the normal left in Scandinavia. What you consider left in the UK (Labour) is center in the Scandinavia bordering to the right on some issues.
Vile scenes there. There's currently a bin in the door they've broken into that they're trying to set on fire.
Weren't you a young(er) man when football hooliganism was far worse than it is today?
I hope Elon Musk's role in all this isn't ignored.
What he has allowed twitter to turn into with the platforming of disinformation and spread of hateful right wing rhetoric is insane.
What he has allowed twitter to turn into with the platforming of disinformation and spread of hateful right wing rhetoric is insane.