Time to get the army in. Woeful 'leadership' from Starmer.
England | right wing knuckle draggers on the streets
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Because he knows it would never work in the UK and I suspect he has always known. He is an 'international socialist' (and a nice man) but does not have a realistic affinity with large swathes of the UK public, and even now inside, the Labour Party
Just think back to when he was Labour leader, and in the run up to the previous GE he promoted a few polices that did seem to gather traction, but then when he saw the interest in the polls, he piled in with loads of other policies which he hoped (or maybe he didn't)would win over even more of the population; however in the end people were left scratching their heads and realizing the real mind set of Corbyn, and gave him the thumbs down...big time.
Starmer deserves great credit for breathing life back into the Party, I might even re-join!
Who the feck brings their kids to something like that?
The last thing anyone needed to do was encourage Maticmaker to rant about Jeremy Corbyn for fecks sake.
I never voted for attached bottle caps!!
That's ineffectual not extremist.
which of his policies were the extreme ones?
Sorry, I am not talking about Scandinavia
Interesting how the reporting over this differs from previous protests that were violent. And theres something slightly ironic about the complaints of "out of towners" given there dislike of erm... out of towners.
Before anyone jumps though, I think these people are complete and absolute dickheads. There's something sick about using someone's devastating loss to justify violent behaviour. None of these people care at all about those children in Southport.
The thing is, due to weak leadership, encouragement from politicians and the media, an environment where violent actions to get what you want gets results has been created. It was inevitable that the "far right' gimps would jump on it eventually. They might share a braincell between them but even the most basic lifeforms eventually evolve and adapt.
Time to start making examples of the ring leaders. Forget political or religious leanings, forget the cause. Any protest that turns violent, causes disruption or puts people in danger should carry a heavy punishment for those who organised it as well as those who lead the actions on the front line. Time to remind people the right to free protest does not equal the right to riot.
Before anyone jumps though, I think these people are complete and absolute dickheads. There's something sick about using someone's devastating loss to justify violent behaviour. None of these people care at all about those children in Southport.
The thing is, due to weak leadership, encouragement from politicians and the media, an environment where violent actions to get what you want gets results has been created. It was inevitable that the "far right' gimps would jump on it eventually. They might share a braincell between them but even the most basic lifeforms eventually evolve and adapt.
Time to start making examples of the ring leaders. Forget political or religious leanings, forget the cause. Any protest that turns violent, causes disruption or puts people in danger should carry a heavy punishment for those who organised it as well as those who lead the actions on the front line. Time to remind people the right to free protest does not equal the right to riot.
There's a bit of reaping what you sow with the labour party in this.
When you justify such behaviour previously because it suits you to do so you will eventually find yourself on the receiving end of the same behaviour. They did so during the election when people figured out they could intimidate MPs and are now.
And the Army is undermanned, underfunded and underresourced after 14 years of Tory austerity. It is as if hollowing out key institutions was not a good idea.
Taking a thread off topic
It's ineffectual, because it was extremist (well in large parts)
Eventually nearly all of them, only the first few he put out, did raise interest (via the polls).
It was his obvious mind set that convinced a majority of red wall voters in particular, as we neared the election he seemed to be pulling stuff out of a hat, even his close colleagues got stuck, because presumably he didn't brief them properly .... perhaps he didn't brief them because he knew what they would say. John McDonnell did try to 'plug the dyke' late on, but it was not successful and millions of Labour voters sailed away!
As is the police who are having to deal with all this at the moment on their own. The Tories have destroyed the country.
I think it is an AI program that is learning from user interaction.
So you keep saying, without explaining why.
Do you think labour are the primary political party responsible for the riots, and the causes of the riots?
Starmer has done the opposite, he’s made Labour a carbon copy of the Conservative Party.
Free broadband.
Our own (Tory) government has been the leading voice in nurturing this.
And full of far right loons. Send the army in and we'll find the communist reign of Rotherham Council has been gloriously overthrown and a new independent Kingdom of South Yorkshire is in need of lebensraum.
Not at all. Not what I was saying. The stories weak leadership is responsible first and foremost. Traditionally they would have been tough on civil disobedience, its part of the reason the left hate them in the first place.
Labours role, as well as other political parties and the media was to justify and often encourage some of the actions because it suited them at the time. A short term popularity boost that was always going to come back on them once they because the government. And it has.
I mean the rioters, who believe that everything wrong with their lives is down to immigrants or non-white Brits, are empowered by the right wing press and politicians who tell them it's alright to hate others.
Think its just poor kids with limited options rather than far right loons.
Well yes but actually no. Yes, they are disadvantaged, but they’re attacking immigrants instead of the enemy (the 1%) because they’ve been fed right wing propaganda that immigrants are to blame for all their problems.
When have the Labour party "(justified) such behaviour previously"?
You can argue about how people got to this point, but you can't absolve them of blame because of the way they got there.
Filth.
Not disagreeing, just think claiming the army is full of far right clowns is unfair.
It's one of the most depressing videos I've ever seen, looks like the start of Nazism or something. People standing around chatting and laughing like they're at a gig, while in the background men brick the police and try to set a hotel full of people on fire.
Has Starmer gone on holiday?
Oh. I thought you were talking about the rioters.
Thank goodness we didn't just have an election in which both the two main parties bent over backwards with their 'take back the streets' and 'Islamists run the country' rhetoric.
Starmer will put out a statement blaming Bangladeshis when someone wakes him up.
Starmer will put out a statement blaming Bangladeshis when someone wakes him up.
Whatever did penguins do to deserve such a fate?
A better bet would be the far north, we'd be helping out polar bears at the same time by providing some snacks
There was a massive community effort in Hull today, with hundreds of people going out to clean up the wreckage from yesterday.
There’s a bit of a general feeling of sorrow, how shameful to have your city portrayed like that.
Hopefully it’ll lead a lot of people to have a think about their intolerant views and what it leads to. The idiots that burned cars and battered people yesterday might be out of reach but it might wake normal people up a little bit as to how they act, what media they consume, how they vote etc etc
There’s a bit of a general feeling of sorrow, how shameful to have your city portrayed like that.
Hopefully it’ll lead a lot of people to have a think about their intolerant views and what it leads to. The idiots that burned cars and battered people yesterday might be out of reach but it might wake normal people up a little bit as to how they act, what media they consume, how they vote etc etc
Where will this end?
Because a vast majority of former Labour (red wall) voters, voted for Boris instead of Jeremy's policies, does that give you some idea now how extreme Corbyn's policies were... on second thoughts probably not to you!!
I doubt it. We will see more mass protests due to the high level of immigration coming. Millions of tax payers money is being used to house immigrants in hotels and people have become fed up.
Yep. Someone abused in their past who goes on to abuse others isn't justified in doing so because of their own suffering.