Pitch could have better but it's not as bad as it has been made out to be you can still score here if Batsmen apply themselves .I don’t think this pitch is good cricketing pitch. It’s a stinker. It’s a lot easier to spin the ball on a crumbling pitch than it is to seam or swing the ball in favorable conditions. However, that doesn’t mean it’s unfair. Both teams have to deal with the same conditions. England’s spinners have to bowl more accurately and England have to bat better against spin. India have outplayed England in this test, deal with it. Everybody should stop moaning and get back to the game.
It’s a shame because the series so far has been played in a very good spirit, there’s clearly a lot of respect between these 2 sides and the 2 captains also get on.
So England get another marginal umpire's call today. I am guessing all is well in terms of the media whinging about them for now.
Once batsmen apply themselves its good for batting, like any sub continent pitch it will hold on for three days and would turn on fourth and fifth day, toss was crucial.
Weren't they just whinging over the third umpire?So England get another marginal umpire's call today. I am guessing all is well in terms of the media whinging about them for now.
It didn't hold for three days. It went through the surface and turned from the first Morning. The first Test was a typical sub continent pitch, this is anything but.Once batsmen apply themselves its good for batting, like any sub continent pitch it will hold on for three days and would turn on fourth and fifth day, toss was crucial.
Will probably be a weird thing to say about someone who has taken eight wickets and might end up with ten wickets but I don't think Moeen Ali bowled well in this match.
First innings he was terrible, far too many four balls but this innings much better. Sadly though the damage is done for this match. He certainly has more talent than Bess, I don't think that has ever been the question with him. More so his ability to consistently produce that talent.Will probably be a weird thing to say about someone who has taken eight wickets and might end up with ten wickets but I don't think Moeen Ali bowled well in this match.
I don't agree with what you say with English bowling, Moeen and Leach bowled really well in this condition, nothing much for fast bowlers in this pitch unless you pitch further up like any sub continent pitch.Nope, toss wasn't crucial at all unless you weren't watching day one. It turned immediately & went through the surface which isn't good enough for a Test match wicket no mater where it is being played or who is playing. The toss was actually far more important in the first Test where England got the better batting conditions.
However, you still have to use the conditions & England's bowling wasn't anywhere near good enough in the first innings, that is where this game has been lost.
In sub continent Toss is crucial, win and bat first for most of condition, Mohali might be exception, get good score and wait for pitch to do something.If you say pitch started to turn from day 1 how did Indian batsmen manage to cope with that still score 300+.It didn't hold for three days. It went through the surface and turned from the first Morning. The first Test was a typical sub continent pitch, this is anything but.
Moeen was terrible in the first innings, far too many four balls. Go look at his figures. England should have restricted India to 250-300, that was par or slightly over par for this pitch.I don't agree with what you say with English bowling, Moeen and Leach bowled really well in this condition, nothing much for fast bowlers in this pitch unless you pitch further up like any sub continent pitch.
Because England bowled terribly, as I already mentioned. Par was 300 max. The toss meant nothing here, the pitch was turning with inconsistent bounce from the first session. England needed to bowl better than India batted. If that had happened the pitch, which clearly not good enough for Test level, would have been inconsequential.In sub continent Toss is crucial, win and bat first for most of condition, Mohali might be exception, get good score and wait for pitch to do something.If you say pitch started to turn from day 1 how did Indian batsmen manage to cope with that still score 300+.
Test matches are like that, unless batsmen start swinging you won't get chance to get their wkts, those boundaries doesn't mean anything he still managed to get 4 WksMoeen was terrible in the first innings, far too many four balls. Go look at his figures. England should have restricted India to 250-300, that was par or slightly over par for this pitch.
Foakes is ridiculous. Superman. Best keeper in the world?
The boundaries actually mean everything, he was far to loose & thus expensive. Advise you look at how expensive he was & then his pitch map & you will see how variable his length was. Credit to Rohit for taking advantage of sub standard bowling.Test matches are like that, unless batsmen start swinging you won't get chance to get their wkts, those boundaries doesn't mean anything he still managed to get 4 Wks
Its not that easy for bowlers coming from overseas and adapt to Indian condition especially spinners, I would say both these bowlers did good job.The boundaries actually mean everything, he was far to loose & thus expensive. Advise you look at how expensive he was & then his pitch map & you will see how variable his length was. Credit to Rohit for taking advantage of sub standard bowling.
Then you would be wrong. Both Bess & Ali are inferior finger spinners to Leach, this is well known. Ali has more in the tank than Bess no doubt but in the first innings he was pretty abysmal.Its not that easy for bowlers coming from overseas and adapt to Indian condition especially spinners, I would say both these bowlers did good job.
He's no Chris Read...Since this post, coupe of byes, catch miss and a stumping miss.
The traditional English whinging about a spinning pitches never gets old..Our tailenders showing that application goes a long way. I reckon England can bat a long time on the pitch. Just need to survive the new ball.
As I stated in another post, the England team have not whinged about the pitch, they have just got on with it. Just because some pundits, journos and ex-players say a few things, don't put everyone in the same group.
The traditional English whinging about a spinning pitches never gets old..Our tailenders showing that application goes a long way. I reckon England can bat a long time on the pitch. Just need to survive the new ball.
Agreed - England been very professional - not a word on the umpires or the pitch yet.
Been a selection of fans and the rest like you said.
It is incredible indeed, no masks either. Just a few months ago this city and State were one of the worst impacted by covid.Every time I turn this on, I'm totally baffled by the size of the crowd with, seemingly, no attempt being made to keep the spectators apart.
I haven't been able to watch much of this, so, can someone explain what the actual feck is going on?
Every time I turn this on, I'm totally baffled by the size of the crowd with, seemingly, no attempt being made to keep the spectators apart.
I haven't been able to watch much of this, so, can someone explain what the actual feck is going on?
Every time I turn this on, I'm totally baffled by the size of the crowd with, seemingly, no attempt being made to keep the spectators apart.
I haven't been able to watch much of this, so, can someone explain what the actual feck is going on?
As I stated in another post, the England team have not whinged about the pitch, they have just got on with it. Just because some pundits, journos and ex-players say a few things, don't put everyone in the same group.
Yeah, absolutely. I had my concerns about this wicket during England's innings, but this knock has highlighted how well India have played/how poor England have been!
Yeah - it's not too bad. The likes of Pant and Rahane should be disappointed.
Botham, Shakib, Imran Khan.Has anyone gotten 2 five-fors and a century in the same game?
Just came across this
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/287370.html
