Not going to happen given that he didn't bring any experienced left winger. Southgate isn't dropping Foden for Eze or Gordon. Different question if it was Grealish and Rashford in the squad.
England Euro 2024 Squad and Discussion
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The problem with all the attacking talent we have is put them on the pitch and we never seem to click like Germany did last night.
Maybe we will this time out but something will have to change. Probably the manager.
Germany leaves out Sane. If Southgate leaves out Foden for Eze England would self immolate before kick off
I wouldn’t. As great as he is for city, I can’t recall a memorable game he’s ever had for England. Always on the periphery and usually playing it safe. But I could say that about all of our front players.
Eze at least is quite explosive and can beat a player, that’s not really foden’s game.
I think this only applies to the first two games. If Foden flatters to deceive and Eze or Gordon looks good from the bench. If they start and play well in the third group game, I don't think there will be much outcry if they start the knockouts.
Foden started the first two games at the last Euros and didn't start again at the Euros. Mount was another one who started the first two games at the last World Cup, he didn't play well and he didn't start another game.
Southgate to his credit will give a player a chance and if they're not cutting it, he'll switch them out.
TAAs midfield world stage party is tmorrow. Can hardly wait.
England will have out cry regardless of what Southgate does. Only wimng out right the whole thing would kill it.
England literally kicked "into that gear"in the last group game in the last world cup. Plus vs Senegal in the knockouts. Even against France. Never stopped y'all bashing the coach even though it was a Stones brain fart & a Kane penalty miss that ACTUALLY kicked you out. Y'all are just as insatiable as fire itself!
You are right, Gareth is a misunderstood genius.
A total different situation
Sane is a bench player for Germany because he was banned for the matches against France & Netherlands and Nagelsmann hasn't made any change in the line-up.
And by the way he has scored 1 goal in the last 28 matches for Bayern Munich
I see southgate is starting the clown moves early this tournament by playing TAA in midfield. Not long left now for us to have to put up with this joker.
The fact that you look at this England team and on paper you would expect them to ease past Serbia yet most sit here and would expect a scrappy 1-0 says everything about Southgate.
The good news for England is their best players are young and be 2 years older for the WC when hopefully for English fans sake be managed by a competent coach
Competent, like Brenda Rodgers
He be better than Southgate whose only club managerial career was relegating Boro who before him was a good PL side
Rather he is a far better international manager than ANY of you clowns will ever give him credit for. He could literally spank Serbia 4 nil tonight and you will be on here telling us "how BAD' he'll lose 'against the first decent opposition England faces'...
i just under 12 hours, football will begin its journey home.
He's very much a system player.
Agreed. I'm not sure what the England system/style really is currently, seems to be very lacking compared to Italy for example.
Southgate is by far the most successful manager for England since 1966. Right? So... why so many posters hate him?
It is not like the England NT has been winning trophies before, and the one and only trophy in 1966 was at home (and the referees helped).
It is not like the England NT has been winning trophies before, and the one and only trophy in 1966 was at home (and the referees helped).
We will see after tonight game. But he knows that it is about winning the group first of all.
Then, hopefully the fun will begin.
He is unadventurous, completely risk averse, his in game management is appalling and he’s butchering one of the top 2 or 3 squads in the tournament. If he starts TAA in midfield then that tells us all we need to know about him (that we already know)
We’ll probably do ok and get through the group and then lose on pens to the first decent side we face. Hopefully I’m wrong though and we do win it.
Gareth Southgate has done a really good job as England manager and it’s odd how people speak about him.
Aside from beating an underperforming German team, can you point to a time when he hasn’t failed a real test?
the last three tournaments when he took a team who has been awful for decades to really successful tournaments?
I’m indifferent to Southgate. There are tactically more astute managers who make more from the sum of the parts of their team, but he’s managed the media and politics of the role well.
I don’t think he’s done a better job than Venables or Robson. They went toe-to-toe with other top countries and either matched or overcame them. Southgate has not had the same success when he comes up against other top teams. He has been consistent in dispatching poorer teams but has also benefited a lot from easier draws to get as far as he did.
2018 World Cup:
Tunisia: W
Panama: W
Belgium: L
Columbia: D (W on pens)
Sweden: W
Croatia: L
2021 Euros:
Croatia: W
Scotland: D
Czech: W
Germany: W
Ukraine: W
Denmark: W
Italy: L
2022 World Cup:
Iran: W
USA: D
Wales: W
Senegal: W
France: L
Literally all but one “test” he’s failed while beating the fodder but in front of him. He got us relegated from the Nations League in a group with Italy, Hungary and Germany without recording a single win and a goal difference of -6.
Bert van Marwijk brought us to the final of the 2010 WC and had Iker Casillas not stretched his toe the way he did he would've made us WC for the first time. You don't want to know how most Dutch people feel about the way he let us play.
I'd say in the big tournaments he's probably on par, he has beaten teams you'd expect, and probably lost against teams you'd expect as well. Germany was a good result even if in hindsight they were clearly a team in transition.
Still this is his strongest squad yet, with a little lost in defense but plenty gained in attacking flair. Sadly I think the draw isn't going to be particularly nice deeper into the euros for us.
I think we will struggle to get out of this relatively easy group.
Why is risk averse bad? Some other countries would see that as a positive.
Top 3 squad on paper yea, but it's not balanced and we are lacking in some important positions/areas
I actually agree with starting Trent in midfield against the weaker teams at least.
Trent's long ball passing ability is better than anyone else in the squad and I think his long passes will be a key tactic against low blocks.
I probably wouldn't start him against France, Germany, Spain, Portugal and Italy who are a bit more attacking.
Trent's long ball passing ability is better than anyone else in the squad and I think his long passes will be a key tactic against low blocks.
I probably wouldn't start him against France, Germany, Spain, Portugal and Italy who are a bit more attacking.
Eh? His passing is expansive. He’s good a passing into space and crossing he’s never been about breaking the lines and finding ways through packed defences. Kane aside, where is the aerial threat?
I think if the forwards make intelligent runs, Trent can find them more often than not.
It's a new roll for him but I think he could excel.
Against the better teams, I don't think it'll be needed and his defensive abilities won't be good enough.
Against low blocks, forward runs into where?
The key will be to get the ball forwards as early as possible before they get the chance to get their whole team behind the ball.
Mainoo and Rice are more likely to pass sideways or backwards which allows them to get men back.
Trent's early long balls could be a useful tactic against Serbia, Denmark and Slovenia.
No. I dont think any english fan would do anything but heave praise on Southgate and the team if they beat Serbia 4 -0. (rightfully so)
Why is risk averse bad? Some other countries would see that as a positive.
Top 3 squad on paper yea, but it's not balanced and we are lacking in some important positions/areas
Anyone would think that he was the only one who did anything.
There is a squad of players as well.
It is quite possible for the coach to do the right things and the players not to perform.
Disagree with you about Mainoo doing that, unless he is told to do that.
I can’t stand Southgate but leaving Mainoo out the XI is the correct decision in my opinion. These decisions aren’t always down to talent alone.
And it is good for United if he’s more bit part this tournament
And it is good for United if he’s more bit part this tournament
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