England - Euro 2021 Discussion | FA chairman: Southgate to be offered new contract until Euro 2024

Sure the back five is the plan but I'd have James at RWB (he's grown on me this season).

With 3 CHs, one Def Mid should be enough (but it's Southgate, Mr Grey). I'd go Phillips and Bellingham.

Grealish Kane (meh, no options), Saka
It was leaked that it will be Trippier, whether it's reliable or not but we'll have to see but they've been right so far in the tournament.
 
Where was that? Didn't see it.

But the change in formation, which Telegraph Sport reported was under consideration last Thursday, appears to be bad news for England fans’ favourite Jack Grealish. The Aston Villa captain is the most obvious fall-guy with Raheem Sterling keeping his place on the left and Phil Foden hoping to take Bukayo Saka’s place on the right.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/euro-20...back-three-phil-foden-returns-blueprint-beat/
 
Always struck me as bizarre why England have a manager like Southgate when they've got players like Grealish, Rashford, Sancho, Sterling and Kane at their disposal, although admittedly they're either not in great form or not starting.

Those players would give any country in the world a run for their money, but with Southgate he seems to revel in the contrarian role, and I think we've seen that in some of the teams he's selected so far. He's his own man and he's the one that will take the fall for his decisions, but some of his choices in this tournament have just been fecking odd. He's so dour.

His unjustified clear favouritism towards certain players and safety first approach is just going to stifle England at the top end and they'll go out.
 
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Looking at the difference in the language I think it looks like they are more speculating than anything by saying he's 'hoping' to start. Whereas Athletic saying Saka is expected to start.

Yeah, maybe they dont want to commit to their words.

Anyways both are not good decisions imo, Grealish should start.
 
England's stats thus far (from BBC website):

Total Shots: 22 (22/24)
Chances created: 17 (22/24)
Chances created in open play: 14 (23/24)

We are soooooo boring.
And with the players we have we don't have to be. I mean I'd take it if we Mourinho'd our way to the title with a load of 1-0s or 0-0 and penalty wins (erm OK!), but its fecking tedious.
 
I'd love to understand Saka choice over Sancho.

Not saying he's a bad player but his comments on Sancho focussed on experience (lack thereof). But that sounds garbage when you think of Foden, Mount and last game, Saka.

Previous England teams could talk about a lack of fortune, just one small thing going slightly differently (86, 90, 96) but this lot haven't had any bad luck.

Other than Southgate as manager
 
England's stats thus far (from BBC website):

Total Shots: 22 (22/24)
Chances created: 17 (22/24)
Chances created in open play: 14 (23/24)

We are soooooo boring.
And with the players we have we don't have to be. I mean I'd take it if we Mourinho'd our way to the title with a load of 1-0s or 0-0 and penalty wins (erm OK!), but its fecking tedious.

Even goals too isn't it.
 
It's a strange one. You'd think the English tabloids would want to keep this information to themselves to prevent giving Germany any upperhand.

That assumes that the only way of finding out opponents tactics is through the press. Teams are surely constantly spying on each other, they're all linked anyway.

Could also be a bluff/double bluff from whoever leaked it. If we lose, it won't be because of a leaked team sheet.
 
England's stats thus far (from BBC website):

Total Shots: 22 (22/24)
Chances created: 17 (22/24)
Chances created in open play: 14 (23/24)

We are soooooo boring.
And with the players we have we don't have to be. I mean I'd take it if we Mourinho'd our way to the title with a load of 1-0s or 0-0 and penalty wins (erm OK!), but its fecking tedious.
That really is unbelievable when you consider the attacking players that England have.
 
I'd love to understand Saka choice over Sancho.

Not saying he's a bad player but his comments on Sancho focussed on experience (lack thereof). But that sounds garbage when you think of Foden, Mount and last game, Saka.

Previous England teams could talk about a lack of fortune, just one small thing going slightly differently (86, 90, 96) but this lot haven't had any bad luck.

Other than Southgate as manager
The only actual explanation for no Rashford or Sancho, and little Grealish on the pitch these euros is because those 3 are the worst attacking players players it comes to their defensive work rate.
 
This is a game wher i hope England CMs, Rice & Phillips, play more positively and pass through the lines, so the forward players can go at Ginter, Hummels & Rudiger, who I think aren't that good.
 
The only actual explanation for no Rashford or Sancho, and little Grealish on the pitch these euros is because those 3 are the worst attacking players players it comes to their defensive work rate.
Probably accurate though that in itself would demonstrate Southgate's mindset (or coaching/man management ability)?

Other managers would look at a goalie, a back 4 and 2 defensive MFers as adequate? Southgate wants the cream of England's attacking talent to chase back.

Glass half full v glass half empty. Fine when you're winning but will get a shedload of grief when they lose.
 
Probably accurate though that in itself would demonstrate Southgate's mindset (or coaching/man management ability)?

Other managers would look at a goalie, a back 4 and 2 defensive MFers as adequate? Southgate wants the cream of England's attacking talent to chase back.

Glass half full v glass half empty. Fine when you're winning but will get a shedload of grief when they lose.
Yep. The wingers and #10 are all picked on their defensive workrate more than what they can do on the ball and going forward. Just get DCL in for Kane and it'll complete the set.
 
I've not that much against Southgate, but if he is going to pick 7 goal Saka in attack ahead of Grealish, Sancho, Rashford & co then he and I are going to fall out
 
Don't ever change Gareth! 7 defenders on.. Nice. Bye bye midfield.
 
Because Saka played well last time out, so he must play well this time too.

It's throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks. It's so frustrating watching our manager guess his way through tournaments when we have such talent at our disposal.


I'd love to understand Saka choice over Sancho.

Not saying he's a bad player but his comments on Sancho focussed on experience (lack thereof). But that sounds garbage when you think of Foden, Mount and last game, Saka.

Previous England teams could talk about a lack of fortune, just one small thing going slightly differently (86, 90, 96) but this lot haven't had any bad luck.

Other than Southgate as manager
 
I want England to either win or get humiliated because they won't sack Southgate if it's a narrow loss. Although I don't think he'd be sacked right away, a humiliating defeat could sow the seeds of doubt in the FA.

Of course if we shithouse our way to the final and win, I'll be fine with that, long live Sir Gareth and all that.
 
no foden, no grealish, no sancho... no ambition. Southgate must have been thrilled watching McFred...
 
I think Saka starting is the right choice, not sure on the lineup as a whole though
 
Kane needs service to be useful in the game. He's had a stinker of a tournament anyway so given all of our creativity is on the bench he's going to be working from scraps.
Saka did well last game no doubt but he's got an awful lot of pressure on his shoulders to be our main attacking source.
Sterling is our only real goal threat in this game and his general performances for England have not been all that good, but at least he can score.
Trippier did nothing last time he played, while Shaw will have to provide all our creativity. Shut him down and England will barely be able to create anything.

We'll sit deep and hope to break fast with Saka/Sterling on the counter. Alternatively we hope to get something from a set piece, Germany will dominate the ball. Shit show tactics which will result in a dull and very nervy game of football, that doesn't generally bode well for England.