England - Euro 2021 Discussion | FA chairman: Southgate to be offered new contract until Euro 2024
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That looks lovely!
Does anyone else think we have a decent chance of going all the way this year?
I fancy us for the first time in a very long.
I fancy us for the first time in a very long.
When Southgate said he spoke yesterday to the 3 senior players who got cut (of the 7) yesterday, who did he mean was the third?
I get that Lingard and Ward-Prowse have been involved extensively in the past, but which of Ramsdale, Godfrey, White, and Watkins would be considered senior?
I get that Lingard and Ward-Prowse have been involved extensively in the past, but which of Ramsdale, Godfrey, White, and Watkins would be considered senior?
Watkins likely. He spoke about Godfrey and White before I think about it just being a starting experience. Same with Ramsdale as 4th goalkeeper.
Henderson's leadership is understated, we need winners in the squad even if they dont kick a ball.
We've got everything but a good enough manager in my opinion. If he can play to our strengths and be smart, there's no reason why we can't at least put in a proper challenge. It's a cup tournament after all, anything can happen.
Ah ok. I thought this had been Watkins first time being called up.
Attack attack attack?
When it makes sense, but honestly we've got a lot of counter attacking talent, that being smart when we finally face a big team is critical I think.
Do people not realise that we'll be playing a maximum of 7 games if we're lucky, not 38. Even with a squad of 23 you have a good 5 or 6 who don't even play a minute, now people are crying because Ward-Prowse or Watkins didn't make it.
as much as I dislike Henderson, this is very true, and with 26 players he’s absolutely worth taking. This is a very inexperienced group of players.
Home advantage in the majority of games a squad that are more than capable of winning this competition but probably won't as I doubt Gareth Southgate will be good enough to lead his side over the line.
For me it's more about risk aversion - we only have 3 CMs really when you factor in Henderson likely won't be 100% fit. JWP is, for me, the most sensible cover option because he plays CM + DM, offers set piece ability and also covers RB if we're desperate (which Southgate seems obsessed with as a position). I like Phillips, I think Bellingham will be a top player as well, I think Rice is pretty average but one injury and we're down to the bare bones immediately in that position.
He'll have a first XI in mind and a couple of subs he likes, most will get no minutes or a handful to appease them but it looks an unbalanced squad to a layman like me.
Walker has definitely been picked for the RCB position solely. Even James can slot in there nicely. I think he should have just dropped one of Trippier or TAA, but it’s not like he’s left out any major players.
No team is winning with JWP in midfield, so I don’t see it as a big issue. Lingard form was a bit overstated, although he’s useful cover in any of the attacking positions.
No team is winning with JWP in midfield, so I don’t see it as a big issue. Lingard form was a bit overstated, although he’s useful cover in any of the attacking positions.
What were the expectation levels for England going into Euro '96, out of interest? Last time we had a tournament where England had 'home advantage' as a factor.
This is true. His form even tapered off somewhat towards the end of the season.
Young Joe Willock finished the season as well as Lingard played during his purple patch of form but I haven't heard anybody mention him.
Agree , Henderson will best serve the squad if he doesn`t get to kick a ball.
Decent point with home advantage. Didn't realize if they top their group they'll play Ro16 in Wembley (though if they're 2nd, they won't play in Wembley til the semis). The Ro16 game would be against the runners up in France/Portugal/Germany, and IMO France and Portugal are 1 and 2 this year, so it's a shit draw anyway. England is probably 3rd ranked for me, if all fit. Though Maguire, Henderson and Rashford all being injured is a big negative.
Think it's pretty much the perfect squad. You could argue that you could spare one right-back to make room for Watkins/Ward-Prowse/Lingard but not much to argue with. Would fancy this lineups to go far:
Pickford
Walker - Stones - Maguire - Shaw
Rice - Henderson/Phillips
Mount
Sterling/Sancho - Kane - Foden
Pickford
Walker - Stones - Maguire - Shaw
Rice - Henderson/Phillips
Mount
Sterling/Sancho - Kane - Foden
Do people watch the Euros? I never watch it. Maybe if England get to the final i might. But not too bothered. I just hope Rashford gets a rest. The guy is clearly burned out.
I know it's all funny because he plays for Liverpool, but Henderson really should walk into the England starting 11 if he is close to being fit and is one of only 3 midfielders who can play as part of the midfield 2 behind whoever the #10/wingers are. The other 2 are Rice and Phillips. So England's chances are almost as dependent on Henderson as they are on Maguire and Kane on being fit. In fact they'd handle Kane being out better than Henderson or Maguire IMO.
Doesnt he play a 3-5-2 though? That is why he is bringing 4 right backs.
But then Watkins couldn’t hit a barn door most of the time. I think DCL offers attributes that will be more useful in crunch moments. The real shame is Greenwood not being available as I’d take him over both.
I doubt Trent will get many minutes , he is definitely a weak spot defensively to his team . He was ok when he had VVD covering for him and playing in a dominant team but struggles in a team that isn`t so much on the front foot . Walker is a much safer bet where his pace alone gets him out of so many sticky spots.
Nope just discussing it for shits and giggles mostly. Don't even like football.
England have some really good players in the squad shame yous have such an average manager. Scotland will take a point of yous at Wembley, Croatia will beat yous and the CR will take a point aswell. No chance England win this with Germany Portugal and France in the competition, not to mention Belgium and Turkey all of whom would beat yous.
We will beat Scotland and get out the group.
If he is bringing those 4 right backs, then he is playing 3-4-3 with Walker/James as RCB. Also Maguire will not be fit for the Croatia game, and no one else is good enough to play with Stones.
Fecking weird bringing all 4 though.
So we're going out at the group stage on two points? Fair enough, now I really won't bother watching.
people watch the Euros? No way man.
Not really sweating it about all the RBs or JWP not making it, but I honestly think Watkins should be second choice after Kane. As someone who watches (almost too much) a lot of Everton, DCL is really just a shit Kane that has a good leap on him. Watkins offers something completely different, and his pressing from the front would be very beneficial off the bench late in games. Even someone like Bamford would have been better. I obviously would have had all 3 and dropped one of the 13 RBs.
That caption is so embarrassing
That is actually kind of mental.... since Southgate is the key "doubter" in all this. Just yeah... stay silent lad(or his shitty media team).
Squad won't do anything with Southgate in charge, useless manager
My post was in jest, however, I think England will struggle in this competition. Southgate is not a great manager, even though England have a lot of talented players, they just arent as good as a France or Portugal as a team.
I think most of you will underestimate Scotland, who will give yous a tougher match than yous think.
Mon the Scotland
It’ll be 3 at the back. Couldn’t justify the 4 RBs otherwise. Considering the attacking talent England have it seems a utter waste.
I'd play 3 at the back against Croatia (Maguire being doubtful for that game), then revert back to a back 4 against Scotland and Czechia.
We didn't even qualify for WC 94, so pretty muted IIRC.
It was only when the golden generation got going that everyone expected us to actually win every tournament. In fairness From Euro 2000 to WC 2006 we certainly had a squad to match the other quality teams in the world, not better but as good at least. We really should have got to a Semi at least in that period. 2018 just shows you the luck in cup football sometimes.
Cool. Someone lock the thread
The fixtures have fallen well for England. They will be massively targeting a win in that first game, knowing it’ll almost take them through.
I remember it being very optimistic despite not qualifying for the 94 world cup. Shearer and being at home were the talked about things in our favour and it did come to fruition as England got to the semi final and just lost out on penalties.