France to win tonight I feel.
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Unbelievable opportunity for both France and England tonight
Portugal look so shaky against counter attacking football and you'd take Morocco any day of the week in a semi final regardless of how well they've done so far
Portugal look so shaky against counter attacking football and you'd take Morocco any day of the week in a semi final regardless of how well they've done so far
France are high on favourites for the World Cup now
That's Morocco who have now beaten Belgium, Spain and Portugal and conceded one goal (by their own player) along the way. They could do it against France as well.
Agreed
Like I said... Morocco have done incredibly well but you'd take them every day of the week if they were offered in a semi final, this is the stage where you usually face a high ranked fancied winner
England is a good team to practice stoicism. Being England’s fan for 24 years, I humbly expect Lions to lose to France with a usual level of drama. Like Germany 96, like Arg 98, like Seaman 02, like 4-2 Germany with Lamps goal, like…you know it
Not sure that's Stoicism. Sounds like defeatism. Either way it's understandable.
Like France 22, when Kane couldn’t become sole England all time scorer
Unlucky. Thought ye were the better side against a team I thought would beat ye. One of your better performances against a big side I can remember.
Nobody particularly to blame either. Kane missed the penalty obviously but ye can hardly call him a bottler when he scored one earlier in the game
Would normally be critical of Southgate who I generally don't rate but if I'm saying ye were unlucky... *shrugs*
Nobody particularly to blame either. Kane missed the penalty obviously but ye can hardly call him a bottler when he scored one earlier in the game
Would normally be critical of Southgate who I generally don't rate but if I'm saying ye were unlucky... *shrugs*
Turned out I was right. Enjoy your tears tonight buddy.
Gutted.
Feel bad for England today. I thought you deserved it. You were better than France today and have been arguably the best international team over the past three major tournaments (WC 2018, Euro 2020, WC 2022). Tough not to have a trophy to show for it.
Fecking England never seem to get an upset against a better side, always have to predictably lose and put in a "cute" performance after which everyone predictably says it's "promising" for the next tournament.
Closer than I expected, partly because France were extremely mediocre.
Kane missed a penalty, Maguire had a great chance with a header he could have scored
However Giroud could have had a couple more and France barely got out of 2nd gear and they still went through. On that performance France were there for the taking and we didnt have the bottle for it
Kane missed a penalty, Maguire had a great chance with a header he could have scored
However Giroud could have had a couple more and France barely got out of 2nd gear and they still went through. On that performance France were there for the taking and we didnt have the bottle for it
It’s stoicism. Just accept it and be an observer. England never wins a major.
Better to be able to enjoy my country at a tournament and come up short than sit at home watching it all wishing my country could win a qualifier to even make the plane.
This England bunch is young enough to come again. It is what it is.
Am I the only one who thinks Southgate is gradually getting better as England manager? We have stinkers now and then but we’re all too reactionary when they happen. Looks like we’re getting better and playing more on the front foot than we were at tournaments.
We needed a griezmann type figure in midfield and the closest we had to that was maddison but was snubbed in favour of mount who is just meh on the ball and grealish who just dribbles until he get's fouled and does little else and not just for England but man City as well
England plays well today and yes their young talents are great enough to be the winner next time.
Yes
Not sure. To be clear I thought England deserved to win and were the better team but look at the elite teams he's beaten in knockout football:
Germany (at HOME)
that's it! You have to keep asking the question as to why this happens.
I know mate. That’s why there’s no tears. Frustrating but the outlook is positive. Should move on from Southgate and let a new era come.
His selections and tactics have been pretty impeccable this tournament and he's made the right adjustments during the tournament.
Played well but didn't look like a scoring from open play.
France brainfarts kept it close.
England where better but considering France actually scored and had a few open play chances I'd say they deserved it a tad more.
For all England's dominance they didn't do enough with it.
France brainfarts kept it close.
England where better but considering France actually scored and had a few open play chances I'd say they deserved it a tad more.
For all England's dominance they didn't do enough with it.
Yeah, I don't get his dislike of Maddison. Provides both goals and assists and is different to everything England have.
Hopefully, a new young AM/CM comes through because that plus Rice and Bellingham could be a great midfield for years to come.
Have no idea what the Sterling sub was about when Rashford is right there and to bring on Mount over Maddison is beyond belief. Did you want to win the game or not?
It’s that bad habit of thinking you’re doing well so you make nothing subs to try and keep it how it is. That’s what amount screamed to me
It’s that bad habit of thinking you’re doing well so you make nothing subs to try and keep it how it is. That’s what amount screamed to me
Yep, I actually agree.
Same as the other competitive games really, plenty of possession, unable to create chances from open play.
Admittedly that was partly due to French players halting forward progress with crack back blocks all the time. But what the heck. Still an inability to actually create anything.
Admittedly that was partly due to French players halting forward progress with crack back blocks all the time. But what the heck. Still an inability to actually create anything.
This.
England have the players but the coaching keep them from winning against the big dogs. Germany is the only exception and they are very much a muzzled big dog.
It wasn't even the mount sub but grealish in the last few minutes when we had nothing to lose and had to throw everything at France and he put 100m flop grealish who has been 100% style over substance at the highest level for club and Country
I thought bringing on Mount and Sterling was moronic.
We haven't beaten a good team.
Desperate to win something again. Must be around 500 United and England matches since either side last won anything.
I know fans of other clubs will have much longer barren streaks, but both sides should won something in recent seasons and tournaments.
I know fans of other clubs will have much longer barren streaks, but both sides should won something in recent seasons and tournaments.
As much as England dominated the ball for most of the match, France found the cutting edge when it mattered and probably just about deserved the win. We can't just be relying on penalties to win.
They managed a quality strike from midfield, while capitalising on our CBs falling asleep for the second goal. We couldn't find a route to the back of the net from open play.
They managed a quality strike from midfield, while capitalising on our CBs falling asleep for the second goal. We couldn't find a route to the back of the net from open play.
Everyone will overreact, but you're right, I've never seen us take it and be the better side against a team as good as France. Unfortunately it's a results game, but at least we went out on our terms.
that’s every england manager ever though
Neville just said that our media are 'kinder' 
It’s such a meaninglessly small sample of games in international tournaments from which to draw conclusions. It’s like assessing PL clubs solely based on their FA Cup results from every even-numbered year.
Where's HC's It’s coming home thread?