England at World Cup 2014

red_devil83 said:
Is the Caf more or less disappointed than 4 years ago? I'm less bothered I have to say. We attacked a bit vs Italy. We were standard crap England today. Slightly better?

I had much lower expectations this time around.
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I am far happier. We deserved a win over Italy, we were great. Today we were worse but deserved a draw minimum. They were no better than us, very even game. I loved the goal we scored today as well. How many times do we score goals like that? the only annoying thing is Rooney, the header ok, it came fast, the second opportunity how can you not score that. That's the thing that really pisses me off that chance and the one agansit Italy, score both and were discussing how great we played instead of asking for Roy's head on a silver platter. Italy are a good team, they will win tomorrow and the game against Urugay is 50/50. Let's just have a comy 3-0 ish win over Costa Rica I have no complaints. Draw to them, then I will say. Hey, maybe we weren't so good.
 
Darkziro said:
I am far happier. We deserved a win over Italy, we were great. Today we were worse but deserved a draw minimum. They were no better than us, very even game. I loved the goal we scored today as well. How many times do we score goals like that? the only annoying thing is Rooney, the header ok, it came fast, the second opportunity how can you not score that. That's the thing that really pisses me off that chance and the one agansit Italy, score both and were discussing how great we played instead of asking for Roy's head on a silver platter. Italy are a good team, they will win tomorrow and the game against Urugay is 50/50. Let's just have a comy 3-0 ish win over Costa Rica I have no complaints. Draw to them, then I will say. Hey, maybe we weren't so good.
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There is no way England were better than Italy, no way in hell.
 
That's what you get when you leave Michael Carrick out of it... United will show what's what when the season starts..
 
What do you expect with Woy in charge and a back 4 as poor as the one we have? If you give players as good Suarez and Cavani that much space they will hurt you. It is a no brainer.
 
As a neutral, i don't really get all your anger towards rooney. At the end he's the best player your NT has and today he showed it. Maybe youre angry because of the chance he got blocked by muslera (Amazing reflexes! even if the shot was too centered he still got to the ground in one milisecond to parry it) but if you watch the game again someday without the heat of the moment you will realize rooney played very good. I hope england can make a miracle and get to the R16 =)
 
Henderson and Welbeck, really average.

Gerrard, Baines useless

But the problem has been tactical, bad played by Hodgson
 
Arrogant and poor defending has cost England a chance at this world cup. Its a shame because they were looking really good. Johnson was positionally retarded 95% of the time, resulting in Balotellis goal and Suarezs first goal. Jagielka looks like hes on vacation and Cahil cant clear a ball to save his life. For some reason England continue to believe they have this aura of invincibility when it comes to defending, while you see all other teams working their fecking ass off, throwing themselves at each other to defend. Its a mindset that I cant ever see changing for England. Having said that, if Italy manage to smash Costa Rica and Uruguay, England can still go through if they beat Costa Rica. What are the odds of that
 
Very sorry to any English caftards here....I love the forum and love debating with you all and you are all good fans.

But, the fans there tonight deserved that for their antics before kick off!....Was an absolute disgrace!!

I don't like Wayne Rooney but, I asked a question in another thread about why Gerrard gets away with no showing for you and Rooney gets it in the neck...No one answered.
 
i know we don't have many real world class players in the squad but you then look at chile and the defence they had when they beat spain and kept a clean sheet and i think how are other countries with lesser players able to perform better than england, if we had the likes of medel in our defence we would be using that as a scapegoat for conceding goals and losing games
 
rogey said:
i know we don't have many real world class players in the squad but you then look at chile and the defence they had when they beat spain and kept a clean sheet and i think how are other countries with lesser players able to perform better than england, if we had the likes of medel in our defence we would be using that as a scapegoat for conceding goals and losing games
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The Chile defence play with Forrest, Cardiff and Osasuna....Picture that!
 
::sonny:: said:
Henderson and Welbeck, really average.

Gerrard, Baines useless

But the problem has been tactical, bad played by Hodgson
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He and Moyes are kindred spirits, complete dinosaurs the pair of them. Anyone who thought that England would be able to compete at the highest level with him at the helm was kidding themselves.

There was a reason he only lasted a few months at Liverpool.
 
Bloody hell, how many threads do I have to put it in?!?!....This is a United forum yes?!

I'm seriously curious as to why Gerrard gets away with no showing but Rooney doesn't...

I don't understand it and I dislike Wayne
 
rogey said:
i know we don't have many real world class players in the squad but you then look at chile and the defence they had when they beat spain and kept a clean sheet and i think how are other countries with lesser players able to perform better than england, if we had the likes of medel in our defence we would be using that as a scapegoat for conceding goals and losing games
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The Chile players, and all the South American relish playing at these tournaments, you can see they absolutely love it.

England by way of comparison, for all the positive media about no fear in a young squad, still look absolutely terrified. Rooney gets a great chance, snatches at it, England lose to Italy, Suarez gets 2 chances, relishes the opportunity, sticks them away. Uruguay win. Owen was the last big game player for England , but the last generation of players have continually shirked at the responsibility and gone into their shells.

It's a mentality thing. I mean there's obviously technical deficiencies to the England squad, but there's reasons beyond that why for a second tournament in a row they've been dealt knock out blows due to a bog standard goal kick, or why the side has gone from being strong at set pieces to everyone suddenly being completely unable to take a corner. These are basic, basic things that once the tournament starts have eluded the players.
 
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.Rossi said:
Bloody hell, how many threads do I have to put it in?!?!....This is a United forum yes?!

I'm seriously curious as to why Gerrard gets away with no showing but Rooney doesn't...

I don't understand it and I dislike Wayne
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Because the media is full of ex-Liverpool players and supporters.
 
.Rossi said:
I asked this at full time....It was 9:52pm

It is now, 3:48am...These are the only answers I've got...And it was a very genuine question...I don't get it
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People just dont like Rooney. I think its as simple as that.

That back four was just delaying the inevitable. Johnson, horrible defensively, Cahill, average, Jagielka, hot garbage, Baines, always been overrated. All that talk of Baines being as good as some thought can die a quick death. What a blessing it was he never came to United.

Dont know what it will take, but for some reason England can just never put together a complete team. Another blessing has to be that this will be the last time Captain Kiss the Camera will be in the middle starting for England.
 
Honestly I thought Rooney played well. Uruguay reserved special treatment for him and man-marked him but he still managed to craft out chances for us. Sturridge, Sterling and Welbeck weren't that good, our center midfield is tosh as well.
 
RedIke said:
People just dont like Rooney. I think its as simple as that.

That back four was just delaying the inevitable. Johnson, horrible defensively, Cahill, average, Jagielka, hot garbage, Baines, always been overrated. All that talk of Baines being as good as some thought can die a quick death. What a blessing it was he never came to United.

Dont know what it will take, but for some reason England can just never put together a complete team. Another blessing has to be that this will be the last time Captain Kiss the Camera will be in the middle starting for England.
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Still doesn't explain it man...I hate Wayne Rooney and yet, I will defend him on this to the death and no one can give me a good answer :/
 
For those who ask for new manager, mind to share who you think is good option for England at the moment?
 
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