this guy sucks so much
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this guy sucks so much
the most charitable interpretation for him is that he is extremely naive and is donating an insignificant amount to people who actively resist efforts to save the planet in order to get them to take his calls where he talks about how climate change is real and they ignore him and continue doing exactly what they were doing before.
the far more likely interpretation is that he is a white billionaire who grew up in apartheid south africa with walking around diamonds who then got rich by being in the right place at the right time when paypal was bought and has spent the last 15 years amassing billions of dollars while busting unions, hoarding resources, laying off workers and generally doing the things that every single billionaire does: manipulate the system for their own gain in order to acquire even more money.
the difference between musk and other billionaires is that he pretends to be noble and hip and has built a sycophantic army of bootlickers who defend everything he does. and not only that, hes the absolute worst kind of reddit douchebag. the guy is worth twenty billion dollars and he spends his time saying "I'm actually a socialist, just not the kind that shifts resources". his cars suck, his hairline has receded, he thinks its a good idea to have massive tunnels under cities for personal capsules, he is a relentless self promoter, he treats his employees like shit and hes dumb aas shit. instead of using his 20 billion dollars to invest in public transit, he wants to dig tunnels across southern california. instead of giving money to farmers whose crops are ruined from flooding in thailand, he wants to build a dumbass submarine and post a video of it in an olympic sized swimming pool, instead of using part of his 20 billion dollars to ensure that flint has bottled water in year 4 of an ongoing crisis, he just tweets out that his engineers are on the case! he literally doesnt understand what normal people live like because he grew up rich in a brutally racist state then became a silicon valley billionaire and he actively refuses to learn or listen to people whose lives are actually affected. its all about getting attention for himself and saving the day. i hope he dies and the money he stole from workers is redistributed to make peoples lives better. if this country wasnt such a shithole we wouldnt need to beg billionaires for charity on twitter. we would use the wealth generated by the people for the good of the people and behead all billionaires
the far more likely interpretation is that he is a white billionaire who grew up in apartheid south africa with walking around diamonds who then got rich by being in the right place at the right time when paypal was bought and has spent the last 15 years amassing billions of dollars while busting unions, hoarding resources, laying off workers and generally doing the things that every single billionaire does: manipulate the system for their own gain in order to acquire even more money.
the difference between musk and other billionaires is that he pretends to be noble and hip and has built a sycophantic army of bootlickers who defend everything he does. and not only that, hes the absolute worst kind of reddit douchebag. the guy is worth twenty billion dollars and he spends his time saying "I'm actually a socialist, just not the kind that shifts resources". his cars suck, his hairline has receded, he thinks its a good idea to have massive tunnels under cities for personal capsules, he is a relentless self promoter, he treats his employees like shit and hes dumb aas shit. instead of using his 20 billion dollars to invest in public transit, he wants to dig tunnels across southern california. instead of giving money to farmers whose crops are ruined from flooding in thailand, he wants to build a dumbass submarine and post a video of it in an olympic sized swimming pool, instead of using part of his 20 billion dollars to ensure that flint has bottled water in year 4 of an ongoing crisis, he just tweets out that his engineers are on the case! he literally doesnt understand what normal people live like because he grew up rich in a brutally racist state then became a silicon valley billionaire and he actively refuses to learn or listen to people whose lives are actually affected. its all about getting attention for himself and saving the day. i hope he dies and the money he stole from workers is redistributed to make peoples lives better. if this country wasnt such a shithole we wouldnt need to beg billionaires for charity on twitter. we would use the wealth generated by the people for the good of the people and behead all billionaires
Oh god, that tweet 
Great post.
Great post.
Every time I google this guy the weirdest stories come up. First it was his first wife's account of their marriage. Now this about his dad.
Elon Musk’s Estranged Father Has Child With Stepdaughter, Says It’s ‘God’s Plan’
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...hter_us_5ab9113ee4b0decad04c68c3?guccounter=1
Elon Musk’s Estranged Father Has Child With Stepdaughter, Says It’s ‘God’s Plan’
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...hter_us_5ab9113ee4b0decad04c68c3?guccounter=1
Socialist is a bit too mild term for him.
Not just charitable. Most likely, surely?
The rest of your post is just hating a billionaire for what billionaires do. Which is fair enough. That’s your perogative. As billionaires go, Musk’s likely legacy puts him miles ahead of almost all of his peers in terms of having a positive affect on the world. So it just comes across as a bit predictable and unfair to single him out for your bile. If you care about the future of the planet anyway.
So long as billionaires exist (and they’re not going away any time soon) the world needs more billionaires like him and less like the anonymous 1%ers locking down crazy fortunes for their progeny, without giving a shit about anyone else.
Agreed.
how is that most likely? It's far more likely that he gives money to both sides in order to get them to leave his businesses aloneAnd I haven't singled him out in any way. All billionaires are thieves and bastards
Locking down a crazy fortune without giving a shit about anyone else is exactly what hes doing bu the way. That's literally what having twenty billion dollars is. He laid off people making five figures a month ago yet is worth twenty billion dollars. He does not give a shit about anyone but himself .
And I haven't singled him out in any way. All billionaires are thieves and bastards
You keep screaming into the void, dude. Whatever works for you.
Keep carrying water for people who dont care if you live or die whose direct existence harms the lives of thousands of people not fortunate enough to grow up as a rich white man in apartheid south Africa, dude. Whatever works for you.
Tell me what you think the most likely explanation is.
To have a voice at the table. With Republicans as well as Democrats. In an absurd political system where the only way to get heard by these political parties is to give them lots of money.
People used to say the same shite about bill gates. The idea that unless elon gives all his money away as he earns it that he's scum doesn't hold much weight.
Why didnt Jews just donate to the nazis?
How much influence does 40k realistically buy you? All big business donate to all big parties... I don't think 40k would get you a seat at a table in a political landscape that spends billions a year.
He doesnt earn it. Workers create wealth and it is siphoned off to a few people at the top because of the way our system is structured and manipulated by those with money and power.
Godwins Law. Nice and early too. Good one.
Not sure what that’s got to do with a post about the American political system?
Your point was that donating to people in power made them listen to you. I'm pointing out how that isnt the case.
Republicans are fanatically opposed to any idea that climate change is happening or that it is caused by human activities. The idea that someone who donated $38,000 is going to cause Republican politicians to go against their position, the position they ran on, the position of their supporters and the position of corporate interested donated far more is absolutely absurd.
You're being ridiculous now.
Exactly. It doesn't influence policy, it just makes friends that are convenient for corporations.
Why didnt they? It would get them a seat at the table. If einstein had donated $16,000 he could have gotten reinhard heydrich to listen to what he had to say.
Drink a cold glass of water, count to 100, and read the nonsense you have been posting here.
Engage in the discussion or feck off. The analogy makes perfect sense.
Why didn't X just donate a small amount of cash and get Y to change a fundamental belief about themselves and everything they stand for?
Didn't know Hitler was fond of lobbying to be honest.
Because it was a racist regime that believed and started to implement the total extinction of the Jewish race? You see a little difference here?
If he's paying for a voice at the table to have the GOPs ear on climate change and other issues affecting humanity he's getting royally ripped off
Neither are the Republicans. They truly believe everything they say on climate change. Their base believes it. Their much larger donors believe it.
They are absolutely committed to their ideology and a dipshit tech billionaire isnt going to change that with 38k
Republicans are absolutely commited to the ideaology that climate change is a hoax. You see the similarity here?
No. It's lunacy to compare those two situations.
From Godwins law to a text book straw man in consecutive posts. Internet arguing 101.
Obviously, I never said or implied any of the above. I said it gives him a voice at the table. Presumably this is important to him for the good of his business. And his business (at least one of them anyway) seems to have two main priorities. Making money (like every other business, ever) and driving a cultural change away from fossil fuels and onto renewables.
Throwing a few grand at a repellant political party seems a small price to pay to help the latter bit.
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Right. The evidence is in their platform moving ever more to the right.
So either hes naive and gullible or hes actually donating for a different reason (to help his corporations)
Because the buying of political power/influence was one of the major charges against the Jew by the Nazis. Doing so would have been futile and used as evidence that the Nazis were correct in their assertions.
The Democrats/Republicans haven't made the same accusations, so Musk can make his donations relatively under the radar and with a greater chance of success.
There is no point on engaging on the debate when you're points are:
- He got raised on an apartheid regime, so he's evil.
- He was rich as a kid (he wasn't).
- All billionaires are evil.
- I hope he dies.
- Why Jews didn't gave money to Nazi.
It is a pretty idiotic discussion to engage on. The IQ drops with every post.
Its absolutely not helping. Scott fecking Pruitt ran the EPA. Rex Tillerson was secretary of state. They are taking his money and laughing while they spend it on adding to the Pacific trash flotilla.
“We were very wealthy,” says Errol. “We had so much money at times we couldn't even close our safe.”
The fundamental point is:
Musk's explanation is total garbage. He cannot change policy by giving 40k to the GOP. And given the composition of who supports the GOP ad what their and the party's aims are his 40k is going to be used for every anti-environmental cause that exists. Only children could believe his explanation. The behaviour of the GOP wrt the environment from 2000 onwards has been consistent and hasn't changed with his 40k or when he joined Trump's council either. Trump pulled out of Paris, EPA has slashed itself to oblivion, and it has relaxed all sorts of pollution rules.
Now I don't think he is a singluar genius but I don't think he is totally stupid either. So, is there an alternative explanation for his behaviour?
Yes, IMO.He has benefited *massively* from govt subsidies for all his projects and hence he might feel a need to keep symbolic ties with both parties.
I’ll bow to your greater knowledge here (not being sarcastic, I’m clueless about US politics) but he must think that the money will help his agenda. And then we’re onto whether or not we think his agenda is worthy enough to justify giving the Republicans a relatively insignificant amount of money if it might help that agenda. Which seems to be something we won’t ever agree on, so am happy to leave it here.
It is. But his agenda isn't the bluster about saving humanity. It's to enrich himself.