Not in my book. That’s how politics works in America. You donate to be heard. As far as I’m aware all big businesses do it. Lobbying.
What you say while being heard is what matters. Not the fact you had to pay to be heard.
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Not in my book. That’s how politics works in America. You donate to be heard. As far as I’m aware all big businesses do it. Lobbying.
What you say while being heard is what matters. Not the fact you had to pay to be heard.
It is bribery and anyone who part takes should be in prison at the very least.
Oh riiight. You should have mentioned you were crazy from the start now I’ve just wasted my time
Nah, it's lobbying. And not even remotely close to a legalized form of corruption at all!
Oh riiight. You should have mentioned you were crazy from the start now I’ve just wasted my time
@Silva owned
obliterated by logic
hahahahahahahaha
giving politicians money so they do what you want is bribery
Bribery implies quid pro quo.
it must be a coincidence that the people who give the most money to politicians get the most government contracts, subsidies and tax cuts
Oh riiight. You should have mentioned you were crazy from the start now I’ve just wasted my time
yeh i agree with you that the whole Lobbying thing and political donations by corporations on a whole to be massively corrupt. But unfortunately until citizens unite and protest to have the laws changed it is the only way to get access to the people that matter. So i can understand if elon musk or walt disney pay millions to lobby for what they feel is right
we all understand it, but some of us want see them face justice for being complicit
the guillotine's been more historically effective but prison will do
Ah yes, the good old 'technicalities'. The end result is the same: favors done by politicians towards their donators.
Oh you really are psycho like @MadMike said. Sorry to bother.
Yeah, good point, damn you God you swine!
People donate to campaigns for a variety of reasons. Many for causes and people that you prolly support as well. Not everyone is complicit in what you're painting with a broad swath as being criminal.
walt disney is dead. the corporation named after him doesnt have rights and shouldnt be allowed to influence government
I'm very clearly talking about people who give obscene amounts of money not joe down the road giving them a fiver.
Well, it wasn't that clear to me but fair enough. Super PACs are bullshit.
Politics is a dirty and detestable business. Not sure how the bolded will ever change as the ones in power will always favor those who donated, backed, and supported them.
probably already posted but then I have to read your repetitive Musk ball-gobbling.
Agreed. But the fight should be with your elected officials and With your supreme court
1. You're assuming people have any say in what laws pass, but there's no evidence to support that.
2. If we assume 1, there were officially some caps on the amount of money that rich people could use to influence elections - the McCain Feingold Act. It was a law and hence supposedly the will of the people. The Supreme Court in a series of rulings including Citizens United rendered it meaningless.
3. To support 1:
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/center-for-public-integrity-2017-08-31
The situation now:
http://time.com/4922542/democrats-citizen-united/
I knew it. My idea o using trained dolphins to rescue Thai boys probably more feasible than Musk's
Also
1. You're assuming people have any say in what laws pass, but there's no evidence to support that.
2. If we assume 1, there were officially some caps on the amount of money that rich people could use to influence elections - the McCain Feingold Act. It was a law and hence supposedly the will of the people. The Supreme Court in a series of rulings including Citizens United rendered it meaningless.
3. To support 1:
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/center-for-public-integrity-2017-08-31
The situation now:
http://time.com/4922542/democrats-citizen-united/
Looks bleak
and with the billionaires who hoard resources while others live in poverty
Wait. You're a socialist ? Ahh I see now
@Eboue gets destroyed by logic bomb
Good lord, you're realising this now?
not too quick on the uptake eh?
Always had him down as a Dubya fan tbh.
say what you want about elon musk. say hes a bitch and a union buster and that he bribes government officials but you cant deny that it works. the republicans have announced that after elon objected, they will stop doing racism and destroying the planet.
That's a relief. Always knew he was a good 'un.