Elon Musk | Owner of X and right wing man-child

[nimic]

 

[VorZakone]

 

[berbatrick]

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[VorZakone]

 

[langster]

He's such a fraud. Despises censorship and big government etc it's no different than Republicans hating socialism yet bitching about no government support. Or iwanting abortion banned yet rioting against government control. Supporting the death penalty, 2nd amendment and opposing gun control yet claiming to be pro life.

fecking hypocrites and like Trump, Musk is one of the biggest of them all. Half the shit he posts are while he's crawling out of a K hole anyway, if it wasn't for his money he would have less than 500 followers and 450 of them would be bots.

 

[thisisnottaken1]

He's such a fraud. Despises censorship and big government etc it's no different than Republicans hating socialism yet bitching about no government support. Or iwanting abortion banned yet rioting against government control. Supporting the death penalty, 2nd amendment and opposing gun control yet claiming to be pro life.

fecking hypocrites and like Trump, Musk is one of the biggest of them all. Half the shit he posts are while he's crawling out of a K hole anyway, if it wasn't for his money he would have less than 500 followers and 450 of them would be bots.

Hypocrisy is a virtue to fascists.

 

[VorZakone]

 

[2mufc0]

Whilst Elon is generally wrong about most things the bigger issue is birth rates which is kind of related to this. There won't be a sufficient workforce to support the ageing population the way things are going. Governments are trying to plug the gap with immigration but there are social issues which we are seeing at the moment with that.

 

[horsechoker]

Whilst Elon is generally wrong about most things the bigger issue is birth rates which is kind of related to this. There won't be a sufficient workforce to support the ageing population the way things are going. Governments are trying to plug the gap with immigration but there are social issues which we are seeing at the moment with that.

I imagine many people are put off by the cost of raising a child. People can scarcely save enough to buy a house. I think women being single is more complex as single isn't always single and we are in a time where women don't have to settle down with a man which is what Musky types have a problem with.

Without being an expert I think most of the problem is due to finance

 

[That'sHernandez]

Whilst Elon is generally wrong about most things the bigger issue is birth rates which is kind of related to this. There won't be a sufficient workforce to support the ageing population the way things are going. Governments are trying to plug the gap with immigration but there are social issues which we are seeing at the moment with that.

Birthrates are in part declining because younger generations can't afford to have children as all of the wealth is held by a small percentage of the population. If people like Elon Musk were taxed more and polices like a Universal Basic Income existed (something which Musk would be staunchly against), younger generations would be more likely to have children. Furthermore, the concept there has to be perpetual population (and economic) growth is absurd and part of why economies and the environment are straining under the weight of capitalism. If the population is naturally leveling off in Western societies, surely that is a good thing?

 

[2mufc0]

Birthrates are in part declining because younger generations can't afford to have children as all of the wealth is held by a small percentage of the population. If people like Elon Musk were taxed more and polices like a Universal Basic Income existed (something which Musk would be staunchly against), younger generations would be more likely to have children. Furthermore, the concept there has to be perpetual population (and economic) growth is absurd and part of why economies and the environment are straining under the weight of capitalism. If the population is naturally leveling off in Western societies, surely that is a good thing?

I mean I'm all for scaling down the hyper capitalism but that's going to cause major upheaval with the economic repercussions which will spill over into social issues related to housing and employment. What will happen to the all the old people (esp poorer ones) is going to be pretty grim.

 

[2mufc0]

I imagine many people are put off by the cost of raising a child. People can scarcely save enough to buy a house. I think women being single is more complex as single isn't always single and we are in a time where women don't have to settle down with a man which is what Musky types have a problem with.

Without being an expert I think most of the problem is due to finance

Yeah totally agree regarding the cost of housing and child care is making it near impossible to have a family. I'm sure Elon is looking at this with ill intnetions but there is certainly a major problem with lower birth rates.

 

[That'sHernandez]

I mean I'm all for scaling down the hyper capitalism but that's going to cause major upheaval with the economic repercussions which will spill over into social issues related to housing and employment. What will happen to the all the old people (esp poorer ones) is going to be pretty grim.

I don't think it's the Boomer generation of old people you have to worry about. It's Gen X and Millennials who will be the ones to suffer having paid in to support Boomers and above in their old age and then receiving nothing in the way of state support.

 

[2mufc0]

I don't think it's the Boomer generation of old people you have to worry about. It's Gen X and Millennials who will be the ones to suffer having paid in to support Boomers and above in their old age and then receiving nothing in the way of state support.

Oh I agree I'm not a boomer, I'm the generation that is likely to face this issue when I get to retirement (if I get there), so it's partly selfish (but valid) reasons to be concerned about it.

 

[Jericholyte2]

We’ve all posted thoughtful replies about how the birth rates in the Western world are concerning, but Elon isn’t bothered by that.

His specific concern was about WOMEN being single & childless, not PEOPLE being single and childless. His concern is about female autonomy and nothing more than that.

 

[thisisnottaken1]

We’ve all posted thoughtful replies about how the birth rates in the Western world are concerning, but Elon isn’t bothered by that.

His specific concern was about WOMEN being single & childless, not PEOPLE being single and childless. His concern is about female autonomy and nothing more than that.

That’s exactly it. And funnily enough, single women are happier than women in relationships (the opposite is true for men). The reason as to why birth rates are declining are because it’s extremely fecking expensive to have and raise children, and also because people don’t want to have children who will have to bear the full brunt of global warming. People like Musk don’t care about that; in fact, their actions are the reason as to why people aren’t having children.

 

[Vidic_In_Moscow]

Going into X this evening and on the for you page it was literally about 15 posts in a row of a black man stabbing a white man in the UK. I didn’t really watch it or look for the context but it’s insane how obviously that video is being used to try and manipulate people. There is just no way all those accounts posted it almost in unison with similar comments by coincidence, nor that they form a repetitive train on my for you page.

Some really bad actors are really trying to stir something up.

 

[thisisnottaken1]

Going into X this evening and on the for you page it was literally about 15 posts in a row of a black man stabbing a white man in the UK. I didn’t really watch it or look for the context but it’s insane how obviously that video is being used to try and manipulate people. There is just no way all those accounts posted it almost in unison with similar comments by coincidence, nor that they form a repetitive train on my for you page.

Some really bad actors are really trying to stir something up.

Exactly. And this is by design. He wants far-right fake news to spread. He wants bigoted disinformation to be disseminated so that it muddies the waters. Capitalists like him benefit from this sort of shit. I hadn’t even heard about the stabbing you mentioned until I saw your post, but I have heard about a stabbing in Germany (which authorities have refused to rule out as terrorism) and I bet hundreds of Nazi cnuts on Twitter have already rushed to their phones and used this incident to spew bigoted bile against Muslims.

 

[VorZakone]

That’s exactly it. And funnily enough, single women are happier than women in relationships (the opposite is true for men). The reason as to why birth rates are declining are because it’s extremely fecking expensive to have and raise children, and also because people don’t want to have children who will have to bear the full brunt of global warming. People like Musk don’t care about that; in fact, their actions are the reason as to why people aren’t having children.

From what I've read, climate change is low on the list of concerns for people. It seems to be about housing costs, urbanization, increased access to contraception and not taking a career hit that becoming a mother could cause. But even those things seemingly don't explain everything because even with extra benefits (tried policy) it didn't increase the birth rate.

 

[nimic]

Is this like when he asked all the programmers at Twitter to print out their code so he could "review" it?

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Is this like when he asked all the programmers at Twitter to print out their code so he could "review" it?

To be fair, that’s how performance appraisals work at most corporations. People have to submit a summary of their achievements and how they did against the goals they’ve been set, which then translates into a grade that dictates their remuneration. It’s tedious as feck but everyone does it.

Explaining this is not defending his ability to run the company. Just explaining why that tweet is probably making a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[That'sHernandez]

To be fair, that’s how performance appraisals work at most corporations. People have to submit a summary of their achievements and how they did against the goals they’ve been set, which then translates into a grade that dictates their remuneration. It’s tedious as feck but everyone does it.

Explaining this is not defending his ability to run the company. Just explaining why that tweet is probably making a mountain out of a molehill.

You usually have those performance appraisals with your direct linemanager, who ideally should know what you do and to an extent how you do it.

Elon Musk is not qualified to appraise anyone’s code because he barely knows python

 

[Pogue Mahone]

You usually have those performance appraisals with your direct linemanager, who ideally should know what you do and to an extent how you do it.

Elon Musk is not qualified to appraise anyone’s code because he barely knows python

Read the article. Musk was never going to read every single X employees submission personally.

That means staff have to submit a one-page summary telling leadership their contributions to the company in order to get their stock.

 

[That'sHernandez]

Read the article. Musk was never going to read every single X employees submission personally.

That’s not what I was talking about

 

[Pexbo]

To be fair, that’s how performance appraisals work at most corporations. People have to submit a summary of their achievements and how they did against the goals they’ve been set, which then translates into a grade that dictates their remuneration. It’s tedious as feck but everyone does it.

Explaining this is not defending his ability to run the company. Just explaining why that tweet is probably making a mountain out of a molehill.

I don’t think you understand how preposterous asking for developers to print “their” code is. I really can’t be arsed to go into it but I can assure you it’s incredibly stupid.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I don’t think you understand how preposterous asking for developers to print “their” code is. I really can’t be arsed to go into it but I can assure you it’s incredibly stupid.

I’m sure it’s stupid but nothing I wrote above had anything to do with developers printing code.

 

[Redlambs]

I don’t think you understand how preposterous asking for developers to print “their” code is. I really can’t be arsed to go into it but I can assure you it’s incredibly stupid.

It is.

And it falls back into the age old Muskism of pretending to know what you are talking about, even to people who know what you are trying to. However, I think he wants this out. He has people believing he workers are the problem, this has always been his way.

To be fair, that’s how performance appraisals work at most corporations. People have to submit a summary of their achievements and how they did against the goals they’ve been set, which then translates into a grade that dictates their remuneration. It’s tedious as feck but everyone does it.

Explaining this is not defending his ability to run the company. Just explaining why that tweet is probably making a mountain out of a molehill.

Yep.

But publicly though? And let's face it, he isn't letting this kind of thing leak unknowingly. It plays into his current MO to a tee.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

That’s not what I was talking about

You were talking about performance appraisals? So was I. The article makes it clear they will be read by “leadership” (aka managers) which is the same as any other company.

 

[Pexbo]

I’m sure it’s stupid but nothing I wrote above had anything to do with developers printing code.

The comment you replied to was about exactly that and you replied “to be fair that’s how appraisals in big corporations work”. Is that not to be taken as a defence of his ridiculous request?

 

[Pogue Mahone]

The comment you replied to was about exactly that and you replied “to be fair that’s how appraisals in big corporations work”. Is that not to be taken as a defence of his ridiculous request?

Jaysus you lot are making this hard work. Read the fecking article in the tweet. That’s what I’m talking about and it makes zero mention of anything being printed out.

I quoted @nimic as well because his post was replying to the same tweet.

 

[Vidic_In_Moscow]

Someone print me out a list of pogues recent posts so I can determine what to make of this

 

[RedC]

To be fair, that’s how performance appraisals work at most corporations. People have to submit a summary of their achievements and how they did against the goals they’ve been set, which then translates into a grade that dictates their remuneration. It’s tedious as feck but everyone does it.

Explaining this is not defending his ability to run the company. Just explaining why that tweet is probably making a mountain out of a molehill.

Stock grants are predetermined things, you are given stock when hired, or as part of a performance review. This tweet seems to be saying that people aren't going to actually get what they've been promised without justifying it, that is not how things normally work at all. I could be misunderstanding, though.

 

[4bars]

I mean I'm all for scaling down the hyper capitalism but that's going to cause major upheaval with the economic repercussions which will spill over into social issues related to housing and employment. What will happen to the all the old people (esp poorer ones) is going to be pretty grim.

I refuse to believe that. We are almost a century with the 40 hours a week. Since then we had major advances on automation in every sector and will exponentially be even more in the next 1-2 decades. These advances barely trickle down to the economic benefit of the average joe but the owners of the means of production. Is a matter of levelling de economy of the rich and superrich. Towards de middle/lower class. People should have more money and more free time at this point in detriment of the rich being way less rich. But of course, that would go against the hypercapitalism society that we are in

Resources exist. There is no will

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Stock grants are predetermined things, you are given stock when hired, or as part of a performance review. This tweet seems to be saying that people aren't going to actually get what they've been promised without justifying it, that is not how things normally work at all. I could be misunderstanding, though.

Based on what little information provided in that article it looks like these grants will be based on a performance review.

 

[VorZakone]

 

[nimic]

Yes how is it even real, Elon.

 

[thisisnottaken1]

It’s not real. Sounds like complete fake news.

 

[horsechoker]

Concerning

 

[Pexbo]

It’s weird how the UK has suddenly become top of his agenda.

 

[thisisnottaken1]

Concerning

Looking into it