Edinson Cavani - SIGNED for United

[Amir]

Should Manchester United's planning be a lot better? Definitely. But sometimes you have to seize upon opportunities when they are correct for you.

Problem is, the opportunity has been around for months and we haven't bothered doiong anything with it.

I don't think people have an issue with signing Cavani as part of a plan. It's the lack of one. Or at least the lack of implementing one. The main reason to believe in what's been happening with the club for the last near two years - Solskjaer and all that - is that plan, that "Cultural reboot" slogan that's been repeated over and over. Then we go and do something that appears to oppose that, so people lose belief.

 

[kouroux]

No we already have Phil the hole Jones taking up the physio bench.
He’s not a right sided attacker and if we manage to get him fit do we drop Martial and feck him off to sulksville yet again? Signing makes nose sense what so ever. We needed a right sided attacker, so Greenwood could then rotate and understudy Martial.
Window has been shite once more, United sure know how to get expectations up, then crush them. Donny should be a very good signing, but the club have spent far too long pissing about trying to get a discount on good players, so we’ve ended up with a striker who was good 3 years ago, it is now prone to breaking and has declined a lot over the last 2 seasons.

Why are you rewriting history ?

 

[Lay]

Hope the younger forwards can learn from his movement. Martial especially

 

[Butty19]

Why do most on here think he’s going to be a back up player? He doesn’t strike me as someone who is happy to sit on the bench most weeks.

 

[FireballXL5]

I'd have been excited about this signing 10 years ago.

 

[Freak]

Are people for real in this thread? Cavani would be an excellent short term upgrade over Ighalo and allows us to focus on other areas for now. He gives us a different dimension to Martial and both Martial and Greenwood could learn lots from him. He's not being bought to be a long term starter, he's being bought to be a backup to Martial, and an fantastic one at that not to mention on a free transfer. Goodness me, the negativity..

 

[Matriac]

Why do most on here think he’s going to be a back up player? He doesn’t strike me as someone who is happy to sit on the bench most weeks.

If his alternative was to sit on the couch at home? Or start every week for Newcastle?

 

[Red_toad]

Why are you rewriting history ?

2017/18 he was good, 48 games 40 goals, then 33 - 23 and then 22- 7. If I’m rewriting history, then it’s all from his stats.
He’s been playing in a pretty piss weak league and I’d imagine he’ll get a lot more injuries at United, so the 200 odd days he’s missed in the last 2 seasons, will only increase.

 

[Patchbeard]

Always liked watching him in the CL, but then he is now 33 and didn't play much last season, so no idea if he's still got it or he's dropped off a clip! But hopefully he's still got it

Even including last season he has 103 goals in his last 114 starts+15 sub apps in Ligue 1 + CL. Also like the fact he dislikes Neymar.

 

[georgipep]

If we pay him £200kpw, his wage will be one of the biggest in the EPL.
How are we getting him on low wages? We are paying ridiculously high wages to a 33 year old.
Nobody else will pay him that.

First, you are quoting a number that hasn't been confirmed even remotely.
Second, £200k/week would not be even in top10 of highest paid in the Premier League.
Third, you continue on your factless claims to provide "an expert" opinion.
Get a grip, dude.

 

[tombombadil]

I think, if he can stay fit, he will give better competition to Martial than Ighalo.

We wanted squad depth. We're getting it. That is the least we can hope for right now.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

I am struggling to understand as to why we are haggling over 10m for Jadon but spending so much on this guy. Why do we need to pay his agent?

 

[CG1010]

This deal in isolation may not be very bad, provided he is motivated professional and not looking to just collect last paychecks.

But if this is meant to be only reinforcement this window then we are in for a long season.

 

[Joseunited]

Terrible signing, act of pure desperation from Ed in order to appease the fans. This one wont work Ed, if you dont deliver Sancho then Cavani wont suffice. Guy has been injured much of last season, mostly muscle injuries and at his age that's not a good sign. Cavani is the type of player that likes to get on the end of of crosses, get himself into the box, so that also goes against our style of play as we dont have wingers who can put in good crosses.

This stinks of being a Woodward signing rather than an Ole signing

An Ed signing .

 

[klayton88]

Why do most on here think he’s going to be a back up player? He doesn’t strike me as someone who is happy to sit on the bench most weeks.

He sits in the physio room most weeks.

 

[Heinzesight]

If it breeds competition for places up top then I’m all for it. As much as I like Ighalo...and appreciate he did well when he first came in...he’s looked a pile of wank in the glimpses we’ve seen since lockdown.

Just hope he can stay fit and put a few past PSG.

 

[CG1010]

Why do most on here think he’s going to be a back up player? He doesn’t strike me as someone who is happy to sit on the bench most weeks.

If he is fit, I see him be involved like Michael Owen for us. Invariably get some minutes every game either coming on to chase the game or consolidate a lead. And start when we want to rest Martial in cups.

 

[Rampant Red Rodriguez]

Are people for real in this thread? Cavani would be an excellent short term upgrade over Ighalo and allows us to focus on other areas for now. He gives us a different dimension to Martial and both Martial and Greenwood could learn lots from him. He's not being bought to be a long term starter, he's being bought to be a backup to Martial, and an fantastic one at that not to mention on a free transfer. Goodness me, the negativity..

Thing is mate that his first touch is trash!. He's the Uruguayan Lukaku!.

 

[Jeppers7]

Hate this signing

 

[tombombadil]

If he is fit, I see him be involved like Michael Owen for us. Invariably get some minutes every game either coming on to chase the game or consolidate a lead. And start when we want to rest Martial in cups.

Agreed. If we're lucky with his fitness, hopefully he can even give competition to Martial. When Martial is off form, give him a break and put Cavani in. Right now, we can't do that with Ighalo. Ole doesn't trust him enough for that.

 

[Alemar]

I heard Cavani had issues with Neymar regarding taking penalties: hopefully we don’t have the same here, as Bruno is proven in this regard, and we don’t need to change penalty taker

 

[kouroux]

2017/18 he was good, 48 games 40 goals, then 33 - 23 and then 22- 7. If I’m rewriting history, then it’s all from his stats.
He’s been playing in a pretty piss weak league and I’d imagine he’ll get a lot more injuries at United, so the 200 odd days he’s missed in the last 2 seasons, will only increase.

23 in 33 didn't happen 3 years ago and the serious decline didn't happen 2 years ago.

 

[Rado_N]

It’s okay for Trump get fecked but for someone whom has been destroying my club for more than a decade isn’t?

Well for starters you didn’t say that, you said anyone unopposed to the Glazers you hope they die.

Secondly, no, as legitimate as it is to hate the Glazers for what they’ve done to the club it’s idiotic to try and align that to Trump.

 

[tombombadil]

I heard Cavani had issues with Neymar regarding taking penalties: hopefully we don’t have the same here, as Bruno is proven in this regard, and we don’t need to change penalty taker

I'm not sure if I remember this correctly, but that is partially because the manager mismanaged it. Partially it's because Neymar is a dick. Cavani was first choice. Neymar demanded it regardless. The coach refused to get involved and said he would let the players settle it. But I will admit I'm not sure if I remembered correctly.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Good we upgrade Ighalo, on the negative note this guy is panic buy. It doesn't meet Ole's criteria recruitment. You know it's a panic buy when the club only just trying going player who couldn't find a new club for 3 months. If he was part of the plan, we would have got him and let him train with us weeks/months ago but in reality he wasn't and counted as panic plan signing. In fact his personality is similar to Sanchez from what I read in PSG forum, loner, don't get along too well with other players, loves his money but still trying to give it all on the pitch. There is Sanchez vibes about him and it didn't work out too well between Sanchez and us.

 

[Gopher Brown]

Left field thought, maybe we're in for him because we might we signing Pellistri. Fellow Uruguayan, regarded as a legend at home, could be useful.

 

[dove]

Thing is mate that his first touch is trash!. He's the Uruguayan Lukaku!.

Other thing is, we are not signing him to be our first choice striker (I hope). As a backup striker, Cavani is more than good enough for any team I think, especially on a free for 1-2 seasons. It definitely wasn't our first choice option I would assume but we desperately need another striker and I think we could have done worse than Cavani.

 

[Gordon S]

I think the disappointment from not getting Sancho seeps into this transfer. Cavani on a free as an option from the bench is not the worst business a big club has ever done, but it is hugely disappointing when you are drooling all summer over players like Sancho, Upamecano, Reguilon, Daka and what not.
A lot of us genuinely believed that we would build on what we had last season, that we would improve and close the gap to the top teams but it feels like we are moving sideways more than anything else. First choice starting 11 is the same i would guess, but our bench is a wee bit stronger now.

 

[Barnslig]

According to Woodward? Yes. No cash flow during this pandemic pre season.

That pretty much solidifies the fact that Ed Woodward should be no where near the footballing side of the club.

 

[CG1010]

Cavani's injury record below. He really does have lots of niggles and injuries which is not a good sign vis-a-vis his longevity but thankfully no big injury like Falcao which can completely finish him (yet):

19/20	groin strain	Jan 13, 2020	Jan 30, 2020	17 days	5
19/20	Muscle Injury	Dec 17, 2019	Dec 30, 2019	13 days	2
19/20	Ill	Dec 12, 2019	Dec 16, 2019	4 days	1
19/20	Calf Injury	Dec 6, 2019	Dec 10, 2019	4 days	1
19/20	Fitness	Sep 19, 2019	Oct 17, 2019	28 days	5
19/20	Hip Injury	Aug 26, 2019	Oct 17, 2019	52 days	8
18/19	Rest	Apr 29, 2019	May 1, 2019	2 days	1
18/19	Fitness	Apr 5, 2019	Apr 5, 2019	0 days	-
18/19	Muscle Injury	Mar 10, 2019	Apr 4, 2019	25 days	4
18/19	Hamstring Injury	Feb 10, 2019	Mar 3, 2019	21 days	6
18/19	Hamstring Injury	Oct 26, 2018	Nov 4, 2018	9 days	2
18/19	Muscle Injury	Jul 1, 2018	Aug 21, 2018	51 days	3
17/18	Hip problems	Feb 8, 2018	Feb 12, 2018	4 days	1
13/14	Achilles tendon problems	Feb 3, 2014	Feb 27, 2014	24 days	5
12/13	Minor Knock	Oct 25, 2012	Nov 5, 2012	11 days	4

In comparison Ibra was an absolute machine before he joined us. Unfortunately doesn't look like we would be able to compare them either:

17/18	Fitness	Feb 26, 2018	Mar 19, 2018	21 days	4
17/18	Knee Injury	Dec 25, 2017	Feb 25, 2018	62 days	13
16/17	Cruciate Ligament Injury	Apr 20, 2017	Nov 16, 2017	210 days	29
15/16	Abdominal Strain	Sep 10, 2015	Sep 14, 2015	4 days	1
15/16	Knee Problems	Aug 6, 2015	Aug 27, 2015	21 days	3
14/15	Heel pain	Sep 22, 2014	Nov 6, 2014	45 days	9
13/14	Torn muscle bundle	Apr 3, 2014	Apr 28, 2014	25 days	6
13/14	Knee Injury	Oct 10, 2013	Oct 17, 2013	7 days	-

 

[CG1010]

I think the disappointment from not getting Sancho seeps into this transfer. Cavani on a free as an option from the bench is not the worst business a big club has ever done, but it is hugely disappointing when you are drooling all summer over players like Sancho, Upamecano, Reguilon, Daka and what not.
A lot of us genuinely believed that we would build on what we had last season, that we would improve and close the gap to the top teams but it feels like we are moving sideways more than anything else. First choice starting 11 is the same i would guess, but our bench is a wee bit stronger now.

You have hit the mark here..

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

I think the disappointment from not getting Sancho seeps into this transfer. Cavani on a free as an option from the bench is not the worst business a big club has ever done, but it is hugely disappointing when you are drooling all summer over players like Sancho, Upamecano, Reguilon, Daka and what not.
A lot of us genuinely believed that we would build on what we had last season, that we would improve and close the gap to the top teams but it feels like we are moving sideways more than anything else. First choice starting 11 is the same i would guess, but our bench is a wee bit stronger now.

Absolutely, it’s just a shame so many fans appear unable to judge each transfer on it’s own merits. Both VDB and Cavani are decent moves in isolation.
Our transfer window as a whole though, in regards to catching Liverpool, has been utterly miserable so far.

 

[clarkydaz]

I am struggling to understand as to why we are haggling over 10m for Jadon but spending so much on this guy. Why do we need to pay his agent?

People need to realise this is where the bile in this thread comes from. Weve lowballed all summer our main target and out of nowhere throw 10m at a mercenary player/agent

If we had sancho it would be a good deal. If its at his expense its shockingly bad business

 

[Feed Me]

Absolutely, it’s just a shame so many fans appear unable to judge each transfer on it’s own merits. Both VDB and Cavani are decent moves in isolation.
Our transfer window as a whole though, in regards to catching Liverpool, has been utterly miserable so far.

The chasm has widened. I’m at peace with it all by now. Not long before Liverpool get to 21.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

People need to realise this is where the bile in this thread comes from. Weve lowballed all summer our main target and out of nowhere throw 10m at a mercenary player/agent

We’re not though, Romano has confirmed they wanted 10m but that we are paying “a bit less”.

Sounds like we’re 30 short on Sancho.

 

[Volumiza]

It’s 7:25am

Life = having a kip between midnight and 7.

No life = on redcafe all night

 

[tombombadil]

I think the disappointment from not getting Sancho seeps into this transfer. Cavani on a free as an option from the bench is not the worst business a big club has ever done, but it is hugely disappointing when you are drooling all summer over players like Sancho, Upamecano, Reguilon, Daka and what not.
A lot of us genuinely believed that we would build on what we had last season, that we would improve and close the gap to the top teams but it feels like we are moving sideways more than anything else. First choice starting 11 is the same i would guess, but our bench is a wee bit stronger now.

Definitely looks like it right now. Unless we get Telles.

 

[Lyng]

If we had sancho it would be a good deal. If its at his expense its shockingly bad business

That is pretty much where I am at. In our current setup with the lack of supply for our striker he would be a waste. But if we add Sancho and Telles it's a whole different story. Cavani is very clinical when properly supplied.

 

[Red_toad]

23 in 33 didn't happen 3 years ago and the serious decline didn't happen 2 years ago.

Declined over 2 years does not mean it happened in 1 day exactly 2 years ago. His issues with injury started July 2018 and he has missed a lot of games since. Are you saying he’s as good now as he was in 2017/18? If so why did PSG replace him and let him go?

 

[delerium]

Not sure how Cavani fits Ole's philosophy of lightning fast strikers. PSG fans have called him "Caravani" for a while now...

Only good as a cup / depth option in my opinion, and his wages should match that requirement. Like for like replacement for Ighalo I think, but Ighalo is likely in better shape & having better attitude.