Edinson Cavani - SIGNED for United

[Barnslig]

I dont' see why people don't see this. Cavani is signing, not to be a back up for Martial or start over him, but to rotate with him. It's like Chelsea when they had Gudjohnson and Drogba. At the time, neither were world class in the way Henry or RVN were, so Chelsea decided to have both constantly rotate with each other. Both scored about 15 league goals each, getting 30 in the process. It's similar to how we used Cole and Ole in the treble team. Cavani playing for us, means Martial has less pressure to be a 30 plus goals per season striker. It makes our attack more consistent.

In addition to this, he provides an option out wide. This means that we now have two players capable of playing on the right side with the quality to be impactful in every scenario in Greenwood and Cavani. At the start of last season, we had Daniel James as the only player willing to play on the right, as neither Rashford or Martial has shown any signs of wanting to play there. It means that we have options in case of injuries, and even with the signing of VDB, we can also use him across the attacking midfield line, we have options. In signing Cavani, we would have fixed our biggest problem last season, attacking depth. We could never trust ourselves to rest players because we knew that we have lingard, mata, james and pereira to replace them. Now we have VDB and Cavani, with mata ocassionally. That is a massive improvement. If the idea is for Greenwood to grow into the right wing position, this is a huge plus as cavani can mentor and rotate with him.

Our two other weaknesses are, full back depth and the centre back next to Maguire. In terms of Maguires partner, I do not feel we need to sign a centre back unless a really high potential one becomes available. We have Mengi and Tuanzebe coming through, with Bailly potentially providing a stop gap. The centre backs available are not impressive, especially considering their inflated fees. For example, I do not think Upemacano is much better than Bailly given the technique and defending I've seen from him. He is clearly not 40m more than him, but that is the price to sign him in the current market. We may as well push and develop our defenders quicker. None of City, Spurs, Chelsea or Arsenal have good and steady centre back partnerships. And even Liverpool's Van Dijk has a weak partner. In addition to this, across Europe, I don't believe too many top teams have centre back partnerships better than what we can potentially have. We all saw Varane against City, the issues of Pique and Umiti/Lenglet. Even De Ligt had issues at Juve last year. Patience may be better for that position. In terms of full back depth, most teams do not have it. And for most teams it makes sense as their full backs are usually fit enough to play the whole season. Unfortunately for us, Shaw has been injury prone due to consistent lack of fitness. And as a result, a suitable left back who can rotate or replace him may be necessary unless he shows otherwise. Williams is not good enough, and I'm not sure he ever will be.

Mata having 1 (one) great game. Like a new signing! I also don't think signing Cavani and VDB is "massive improvement". VDB gives us options in the midfield, but I don't see him as a massive upgrade on any of the midfielders already there, Cavani will, as I've stated multiple times now, be a disaster panic signing that will spend most of his time collecting loads of money for sitting on the bench, or being injured.

 

[ReallyUSA]

How is he a big upgrade? As another poster said, Cavani barely played 30 games in the last 2 seasons due to many injuries.

I bet he won't do any better than Ighalo. I'm actually very worried that Cavani might struggle with his

This is the article, apparently Juventus came close but contract length was the reason it didn't happen. Going by this thread, I thought Cavani was some non league player with no club interested at all.



https://espndeportes.espn.com/futbo...inson-cavani-dos-temporadas-manchester-united

I think people are peeved because we have Martial and Greenwood already.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Again because no one has the actual number. Massive wages have been spouted by the media, and people have varying opinions on what "massive wages" are. Ultimately he's going to be paid a metric feckton of money to be sitting on the bench. This screams Sanchez v2 to me.

I’ll be big surprised if it’s even above 200k. We didn’t agree with Thiago’s personal term so why would we pay on Cavani, doesn’t make sense. It should be around 190k or less which is something he earns with PSG previously.

 

[ti vu]

This is the article, apparently Juventus came close but contract length was the reason it didn't happen. Going by this thread, I thought Cavani was some non league player with no club interested at all.



https://espndeportes.espn.com/futbo...inson-cavani-dos-temporadas-manchester-united

So if we take this for face value, we only become interested in Cavani the last few days, after Benfica renewed their interest?

 

[RDCR07]

Smacks of a shut the supporters up signing. I feel like my intelligence is being insulted

Feel like it’s done the opposite.

 

[tjb]

It is a panic buy, what's wrong with that? We had a need. Martial was a panic buy. We held out to sign Sancho for a more reasonable price, as our current financial status due to COVID, means that we do not have 120m just rolling around this year. Dortmund stood firm on their fee, similar to the way Spurs did for Berbatov or we did for Pogba. There is no shame in missing out on a signing. However, we saw we needed some additional quality in attack and due to Dortmund playing games, we could not get what we wanted. We saw the value in Cavani and what he could provide for our squad. Most teams would not want a 33 year old striker with a mostly bigger wage, because at least at the top level, they have a no.9 that they can rely on to score goals consistently for them. At United, we are in the unique positoin where we have a full line of young players in our attack who may need experience and rotation. He is relatively cheap and allows us to save money for next summer when we will have the funds to attack the market without settling for an overpriced alternative. He is also versatile and can play on the right. The smaller teams would have seen his wages and deemed it too expensive for a player at that age who could regress, most top club already have more reliable and more seasoned strikers, so signing Cavani as a back up for his wage would not make sense. At United however, we have the youth to make his experience impactful and the role ( rotation with Martial) to make his value worth the price. It's a unique position that almost no other club has, and its why it makes sense for us, rather than those other teams, to take the chance on him.

 

[WPMUFC]

I’ll be big surprised if it’s even above 200k. We didn’t agree with Thiago’s personal term so why would we pay on Cavani, doesn’t make sense. It should be around 190k or less which is something he earns with PSG previously.

48 hours left, all our potential deals are collapsing or not happening, free transfer, big-ish name and woodward wants a name on the teamsheet that sends a shiver down the spines of the opponents.

 

[Barnslig]

I’ll be big surprised if it’s even above 200k. We didn’t agree with Thiago’s personal term so why would we pay on Cavani, doesn’t make sense. It should be around 190k or less which is something he earns with PSG previously.

I mean, not a lot makes sense with United's business dealings though does it? If we end up spending roughly 30m on Cavani in wages and fees, but missed out on Sancho by 20m there's going to be riots. We're a horribly ran club, and our decisions are not based on common sense, it's based on social media metrics.

 

[pratyush_utd]

This is the article, apparently Juventus came close but contract length was the reason it didn't happen. Going by this thread, I thought Cavani was some non league player with no club interested at all.



https://espndeportes.espn.com/futbo...inson-cavani-dos-temporadas-manchester-united

If Cavani stays injury free, he will be great option. Not sure why people are moaning about him. We don't work on unlimited budget. It's clear we don't have money for both RW and Striker and our Striker option is Igahlo who looks like he has won some competition to play for us and also will go back to China in January. This solves both issue and gives us chance to go for a RW.

 

[Barnslig]

It is a panic buy, what's wrong with that? We had a need. Martial was a panic buy. We held out to sign Sancho for a more reasonable price, as our current financial status due to COVID, means that we do not have 120m just rolling around this year. Dortmund stood firm on their fee, similar to the way Spurs did for Berbatov or we did for Pogba. There is no shame in missing out on a signing. However, we saw we needed some additional quality in attack and due to Dortmund playing games, we could not get what we wanted. We saw the value in Cavani and what he could provide for our squad. Most teams would not want a 33 year old striker with a mostly bigger wage, because at least at the top level, they have a no.9 that they can rely on to score goals consistently for them. At United, we are in the unique positoin where we have a full line of young players in our attack who may need experience and rotation. He is relatively cheap and allows us to save money for next summer when we will have the funds to attack the market without settling for an overpriced alternative. He is also versatile and can play on the right. The smaller teams would have seen his wages and deemed it too expensive for a player at that age who could regress, most top club already have more reliable and more seasoned strikers, so signing Cavani as a back up for his wage would not make sense. At United however, we have the youth to make his experience impactful and the role ( rotation with Martial) to make his value worth the price. It's a unique position that almost no other club has, and its why it makes sense for us, rather than those other teams, to take the chance on him.

I don't think there's loads of people blaming the club for not coughing up the 120m for Sancho, however what people are blaming the club for is knowing this price for months, knowing they wouldn't be able to pay it, and yet have done nothing to try and sign another player. Our squad currently has 0 (zero) right-wingers, this has been the case for years now, it's unforgivable really.

If Cavani stays injury free, he will be great option. Not sure why people are moaning about him. We don't work on unlimited budget. It's clear we don't have money for both RW and Striker and our Striker option is Igahlo who looks like he has won some competition to play for us and also will go back to China in January. This solves both issue and gives us chance to go for a RW.

Then Woodward and the club should stop bigging our own finances up in the media, saying we can do things other clubs can only dream about, or that we're financially healthy during the pandemic, and this is on Woodward for making those comments. He shouldn't be speaking like that, when we clearly can't back it up where it matters, by signing our main targets. We've dealt with the COVID situation very impressively, and there was a point where the club was only receiving positive media attention for doing all the right things, however as soon as it comes to the footballing side of things, our limitations are shining through.

 

[WPMUFC]

I mean, not a lot makes sense with United's business dealings though does it? If we end up spending roughly 30m on Cavani in wages and fees, but missed out on Sancho by 20m there's going to be riots. We're a horribly ran club, and our decisions are not based on common sense, it's based on social media metrics.

and remember, even some of the positive comments in here (not the absolute deluded ones) claim "Cavani is fine as long as we get the other deals done". When the window shuts with just cavani, i'm expecting rage we've not seen since fellaini signing.

 

[roonster09]

So if we take this for face value, we only become interested in Cavani the last few days, after Benfica renewed their interest?

Maybe. It's not unreasonable either. Maybe we tried to sign other players for back up role but couldn't, so went for alternatives like any other club does.

 

[Majima]

I dont' see why people don't see this. Cavani is signing, not to be a back up for Martial or start over him, but to rotate with him. It's like Chelsea when they had Gudjohnson and Drogba. At the time, neither were world class in the way Henry or RVN were, so Chelsea decided to have both constantly rotate with each other. Both scored about 15 league goals each, getting 30 in the process. It's similar to how we used Cole and Ole in the treble team. Cavani playing for us, means Martial has less pressure to be a 30 plus goals per season striker. It makes our attack more consistent.

In addition to this, he provides an option out wide. This means that we now have two players capable of playing on the right side with the quality to be impactful in every scenario in Greenwood and Cavani. At the start of last season, we had Daniel James as the only player willing to play on the right, as neither Rashford or Martial has shown any signs of wanting to play there. It means that we have options in case of injuries, and even with the signing of VDB, we can also use him across the attacking midfield line, we have options. In signing Cavani, we would have fixed our biggest problem last season, attacking depth. We could never trust ourselves to rest players because we knew that we have lingard, mata, james and pereira to replace them. Now we have VDB and Cavani, with mata ocassionally. That is a massive improvement. If the idea is for Greenwood to grow into the right wing position, this is a huge plus as cavani can mentor and rotate with him.

Our two other weaknesses are, full back depth and the centre back next to Maguire. In terms of Maguires partner, I do not feel we need to sign a centre back unless a really high potential one becomes available. We have Mengi and Tuanzebe coming through, with Bailly potentially providing a stop gap. The centre backs available are not impressive, especially considering their inflated fees. For example, I do not think Upemacano is much better than Bailly given the technique and defending I've seen from him. He is clearly not 40m more than him, but that is the price to sign him in the current market. We may as well push and develop our defenders quicker. None of City, Spurs, Chelsea or Arsenal have good and steady centre back partnerships. And even Liverpool's Van Dijk has a weak partner. In addition to this, across Europe, I don't believe too many top teams have centre back partnerships better than what we can potentially have. We all saw Varane against City, the issues of Pique and Umiti/Lenglet. Even De Ligt had issues at Juve last year. Patience may be better for that position. In terms of full back depth, most teams do not have it. And for most teams it makes sense as their full backs are usually fit enough to play the whole season. Unfortunately for us, Shaw has been injury prone due to consistent lack of fitness. And as a result, a suitable left back who can rotate or replace him may be necessary unless he shows otherwise. Williams is not good enough, and I'm not sure he ever will be.

Why have you written an essay ending on defenders?

Cavani is attacking depth for RW seriously now!? His body is dusted. Finito. The only place he is depth for is going to be the physio room with his new best mate Bailly.

33, been out 7 months, no pre-season. If he manages more than 1k mins this season I will be highly surprised.

Expecting him to rotate with Martial scoring over 10 goals this season is truly outlandish. He scored 4 goals for PSG last season in a farmers league. Don't do it to yourself.

 

[ti vu]

It is a panic buy, what's wrong with that? We had a need. Martial was a panic buy. We held out to sign Sancho for a more reasonable price, as our current financial status due to COVID, means that we do not have 120m just rolling around this year. Dortmund stood firm on their fee, similar to the way Spurs did for Berbatov or we did for Pogba. There is no shame in missing out on a signing. However, we saw we needed some additional quality in attack and due to Dortmund playing games, we could not get what we wanted. We saw the value in Cavani and what he could provide for our squad. Most teams would not want a 33 year old striker with a mostly bigger wage, because at least at the top level, they have a no.9 that they can rely on to score goals consistently for them. At United, we are in the unique positoin where we have a full line of young players in our attack who may need experience and rotation. He is relatively cheap and allows us to save money for next summer when we will have the funds to attack the market without settling for an overpriced alternative. He is also versatile and can play on the right. The smaller teams would have seen his wages and deemed it too expensive for a player at that age who could regress, most top club already have more reliable and more seasoned strikers, so signing Cavani as a back up for his wage would not make sense. At United however, we have the youth to make his experience impactful and the role ( rotation with Martial) to make his value worth the price. It's a unique position that almost no other club has, and its why it makes sense for us, rather than those other teams, to take the chance on him.

Martial was not. Tottenham also wanted to sign Martial beside us. Even Chelsea was rumored to be interested. However, Monaco wanted to keep him, until they got eliminated in CL playoff. Martial only became available then. We also needed to made irresistible record deal for a teenager at the time.

Had Monaco qualified for CL that season, Martial wouldn't have come. It's a case of getting a target when it became available.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

I mean, not a lot makes sense with United's business dealings though does it? If we end up spending roughly 30m on Cavani in wages and fees, but missed out on Sancho by 20m there's going to be riots. We're a horribly ran club, and our decisions are not based on common sense, it's based on social media metrics.

Well, I agree with that. But I was only talking about his potential wages.

 

[RedDevil@84]

I think some people don't even understand the potential fitness issues. He's had no pre season and has not played a match since the start of March.

Not sure if people genuinely believe in what they say or just keep saying hopeful things to convince themselves because Woodward was stupid enough. And if things go south, they can still blame Ole

 

[DaMan]

Hardest working man in the game of football. Love it
Proper striker this one...

 

[Cman]

I heard that the deal may now be off!!! But if we can’t get another ageing striker signed Ole has agreed to become our player/manager. Great business for club as we will say on transfer and wages. Win win

 

[Bobcat]

At least hes a free agent, but not to thrilled about this one

 

[Krits]

Honestly, I just don’t know what to expect. Let’s hope he has a positive impact. It would be good to have an old fashioned striker in the box against teams that sit deep, gives them something to think about.

 

[hubbuh]

If Cavani stays injury free, he will be great option. Not sure why people are moaning about him. We don't work on unlimited budget. It's clear we don't have money for both RW and Striker and our Striker option is Igahlo who looks like he has won some competition to play for us and also will go back to China in January. This solves both issue and gives us chance to go for a RW.

What? ‘Not sure why people are moaning about him’ ... have you bothered to check out his recent stats? About half of all PSG games out injured, reported massive money, last minute deal. The situation at RW is far more dire than ST, so it’d be nice if people pulled their heads out of the fecking sand and smelt this deal for what it patently is; a last minute scrabble to placate the gathering masses. Borderline despicable that fans are still naive to what’s going on.

 

[RashyForPM]

Once again, people are being negative for the sake of it. Some of you are complaining about the details of the deal, of which you don’t even know. Even if the wages are high, there’s no transfer fee and it’s just for two seasons where he’ll be a reliable backup striker, who will be able to guide the younger lads like Martial, Marcus and Mason on the do’s and dont’s of striking. I mean, we have Ighalo there now. Clearing Pereira and Smalling’s (soon) wages covers at least 60% of it too.

Also, RvP said this guy should be our top target. If you all think you know more than RvP about strikers, just shut up. Ed’s a twat and I’m all for criticising him for things he gets wrong, like overspending and seemingly messing up the Sancho and Telles deals, but I’m not criticising him for this. Cavani will come in, be an impact sub in games where we need a goal or to rest Martial and play in the cups where he’ll score some goals simply because of his poacher’s instinct. This is a win-win transfer.

On a final note, honestly, to the people saying things like ‘sick of this club’ or ‘brutal club, hate it’ just because you don’t agree with a transfer with minimal risk, piss off you overdramatic idiots, rather than giving useless, crybaby comments like those. MUFC and the Caf would be a better place without people like you. I’m sorry, but it’s true. Using words like ‘sick’ and ‘hate’ about United? Go off to Liverpool or Leeds or something! After all, they’re far better run than us, and you hate us anyway, so it’s fine!

Apologies for the rant in the last paragraph, but I’ve had to say it for hours.

 

[SmallCaine]

If Cavani stays injury free, he will be great option. Not sure why people are moaning about him. We don't work on unlimited budget. It's clear we don't have money for both RW and Striker and our Striker option is Igahlo who looks like he has won some competition to play for us and also will go back to China in January. This solves both issue and gives us chance to go for a RW.

We are giving 200k to a guy to sit on the bench and while doing so we are also hoping that he won't be injury prone like he has been for last 2 years. And he's also coming off his worst ever goal return in a season.

 

[Ace Krampus]

I know I've already intimated that I might be biased, and maybe I am, but I don't seem recall the moaning when it was assumed we were paying to bring the likes of Josh King in. What's the downside here on a functionally one-year deal?

 

[MiracleInMadrid]

With the reported wages he'll potentially be on, it is hard not to compare this signing with the Sanchez one.

My only hope for him to be a succesful signing, compared to Sanchez, is that his goalscoring instinct and physicality alone will get him goals if the delivery is good enough. With his size and movement in the box he'll be a noisance for the opponent which may create space for our other players. Those attributes shouldn't be too diminished by age and injuries. Look at how impactfull someone like Zlatan can still be despite. I know that Zlatan also possess a unique mentality and determination, but I still think they are comparable to some degree.

Sanchez' strenghts, as I see it, were 1-vs-1's, dribbling, long range shooting and his aggressiveness in and around the box. I believe those attributes are more difficult to maintain when getting older and more injury prone.

Hopefully this will make the Cavani transfer more likely to be succesfull, but honestly I don't really think it will.

 

[711]

Very disappointed. I can't imagine Liverpool or City doing this.

 

[croadyman]

I can completely understand people being concerned as their points are very much valid, however I am prepared to give him that chance to show me he can play in this league and I don't expect a Zlatan like impact but not going to write off before he has even kicked a ball for this club yet.

 

[suhaylah]

Guess Woodward thought about Cavani's marketing value 

 

[lysglimt]

Very disappointed. I can't imagine Liverpool or City doing this.

And what strikers did City use against Leicester ?

 

[stretford_oslo]

And what strikers did City use against Leicester ?

Are you saying a washed up Cavani is better than Sterling?
This will be Falcao all over again.

 

[RkkMan]

Extremely low risk buy if this is the case. Gives us flexible leeway to either let him go if he flops or keep him a little longer if he works out. People Ighalo is a mid player and leaving in January, Rashford is not a no9 and needs to improve his poaching instincts, Greenwood is still learning his trade and better out wide for now and Martial is our only decent no9 and more of a false 9 than an out out ST. Having an actual ST like Cavani with his experience and winning mentality is nowhere near a bad thing he`s exactly what we need not another young ST next to our young attackers. Unless y`all can suggest a better ST for free you can`t be mad at us signing Cavani on a 1+1 deal

 

[roonster09]

With the reported wages he'll potentially be on, it is hard not to compare this signing with the Sanchez one.

My only hope for him to be a succesful signing, compared to Sanchez, is that his goalscoring instinct and physicality alone will get him goals if the delivery is good enough. With his size and movement in the box he'll be a noisance for the opponent which may create space for our other players. Those attributes shouldn't be too diminished by age and injuries. Look at how impactfull someone like Zlatan can still be despite. I know that Zlatan also possess a unique mentality and determination, but I still think they are comparable to some degree.

Sanchez' strenghts, as I see it, were 1-vs-1's, dribbling, long range shooting and his aggressiveness in and around the box. I believe those attributes are more difficult to maintain when getting older and more injury prone.

Hopefully this will make the Cavani transfer more likely to be succesfull, but honestly I don't really think it will.

Nowhere near Sanchez. From Laurie Whitwell article

What are the numbers behind the deal?
Cavani was searching for a €9 million (£8.15 million) per year annual salary and sources say his terms at United will reflect his calibre and track record.
But his earnings are in line with the club's structure and nowhere near Alexis Sanchez's pay packet.

That's around 155K per week and also this is 1+1 year deal, whereas Sanchez's was 4.5 year deal IIRC.

 

[manunited1919]

I mean we have multiple players in the squad that are way younger than 33, that have been on way less of a break (did they even have any?) and they are struggling to get up to speed. A 33 year old Cavani free agent living as a king in Paraguay for 6 months is not just a tiny hurdle.

I’m not talking about match fit, just a 2 week fitness regime to drop maybe 7 kilos, which is very doable at 33. In a couple of weeks he can be ready for Ole to start giving him minutes to build up his match fitness.

 

[AbusementPark]

Why if a team brings in a player with little time left in the window is it called a panic buy? Ever considered the possibility that we are trying to offload players first to free up wages and bring in funds before we can actually buy someone. Not thrilled with the Cavani signing, if the reported fee and wages are around 15m then its not a bad option to have.

Yes cavani has been available all summer and who knows the club probably had him as a backup option the whole time. By not selling more of the deadwood its left our finances short on were we need to be this window. Still time to complete Sancho if we get smalling sold.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Here's a big fat £300k+ a week sticking plaster to hoodwink at least some of the dumber fans into thinking we're not sinking faster than the titanic.

Yup, from 200k /week to 250k, to 300k+ in the space of just a few pages.

The caf ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Micky Targaryen]

Once again, people are being negative for the sake of it. Some of you are complaining about the details of the deal, of which you don’t even know. Even if the wages are high, there’s no transfer fee and it’s just for two seasons where he’ll be a reliable backup striker, who will be able to guide the younger lads like Martial, Marcus and Mason on the do’s and dont’s of striking. I mean, we have Ighalo there now. Clearing Pereira and Smalling’s (soon) wages covers at least 60% of it too.

Also, RvP said this guy should be our top target. If you all think you know more than RvP about strikers, just shut up. Ed’s a twat and I’m all for criticising him for things he gets wrong, like overspending and seemingly messing up the Sancho and Telles deals, but I’m not criticising him for this. Cavani will come in, be an impact sub in games where we need a goal or to rest Martial and play in the cups where he’ll score some goals simply because of his poacher’s instinct. This is a win-win transfer.

On a final note, honestly, to the people saying things like ‘sick of this club’ or ‘brutal club, hate it’ just because you don’t agree with a transfer with minimal risk, piss off you overdramatic idiots, rather than giving useless, crybaby comments like those. MUFC and the Caf would be a better place without people like you. I’m sorry, but it’s true. Using words like ‘sick’ and ‘hate’ about United? Go off to Liverpool or Leeds or something! After all, they’re far better run than us, and you hate us anyway, so it’s fine!

Apologies for the rant in the last paragraph, but I’ve had to say it for hours.

I can completely understand people being concerned as their points are very much valid, however I am prepared to give him that chance to show me he can play in this league and I don't expect a Zlatan like impact but not going to write off before he has even kicked a ball for this club yet.

Well said. Nobody does know, and yet they still choose to be absolute drama queens over it.

 

[tombombadil]

Yup, from 200k /week to 250k, to 300k+ in the space of just a few pages.

The caf ladies and gentlemen.

Telephone game in a nutshell

 

[The Siege]

Honestly, it's the fitness more than anything that makes me worry about this transfer. This dude had a season where he was available to be a part of the squad for just 16 games of the French league last year. He was injured for the other 11 across different parts of the season with hip, calf, and groin injuries. He's had no preseason, and I don't know what shape we're going to find him in. Are we expecting a 33-year old to just suddenly figure out his fitness in the Premier League?

 

[dove]

Would rather have Cavani on 1+1 deal signed on a free than splash like £30m on King.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

So do i believe your 'guess' with presuming your lack of contacts in the professional football world, or do we believe Romano who has direct contact with clubs and agents. And we are supposed to be haggling with Sancho over 20/30m

Romano now confirming we have “got it for a bit less” than what they were asking, as expected so late in the window, both he and his agent have had to drop their demands.
So yeah, you should believe my “guess” as it was more common sense logic than pure guesswork.