We needed a winger. We have Martial, Rashford, Greenwood and Igalho who can all play CF.
Edinson Cavani - SIGNED for United
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We need a striker to compete with Martial. Ighalo is gone in January. Van de Beek is a quality addition who adds depth. It will be nice not to run Pogba and Fernandes into the ground. However yes, despite this, we do need to address other areas too.
Feck me, if you are the one talking sense here, we must really be fecked as a club. Things don't get much more obvious than this, but somehow we still have fans that are ready for another huge disappointment.
But the appreciating wage is in line with players who justify it, which is where all of those could move to teams up the pay-scale and get more than they currently do. Cavani is not on that trajectory as a player who is losing a number of attributes that made him what he was and had him paid accordingly. We're going to pay him a wage he can't get anywhere else in Europe because we're desperate and have had to last ditch in a window in which we've had even more time (via lockdown) to prepare for.
In no way has our first XI strengthened, but our squad will. I agree with you though, I think too much faith is being shown in players like Shaw, Lindelöf and Matić who I feel are the most obvious players to upgrade.
Romano and the Athletic.
People are comparing it to the Sancho transfer and venting their frustrations about that on this. Although there's been plenty of rumours of us wanting a forward as well, they're not related at all.
It's happened so often now I guess their buttholes are numb and they don't feel it.
I think if you look both say Cavani requested the figure, not that we agreed to it.
There was then subsequent reports saying we had agreed a 'very good deal'
In what world do we need a striker, when we have 4 players in the first team squad that can play that position?
Awful post, really bad.
Ref Cavani and Telles - the two things aren’t linked. Calm down.
you mention that Rashford, Martial, a Greenwood and Ighalo can all play as a striker, and use this as a reason why Cavani isn't needed.
Yet, you don’t seem to have worked out that three out of four of those players start in our best 11, and the other goes in January. We literally have zero cover.
So the implication of your opinion is that you are happy to rely on Ighalo, Lingard, Mata, Pereira and James in the CL?
This window was meant to be a step at closing the gap to Liverpool. Not in one go and to overtake them immediately as that is just fantasy stuff. But the goal was to close the gap.
So far they have added a back up left back, Thiago and Jota.
If anything the gap is wider now than it was 3 months ago. Any fan trying to pretend it's not is kidding themselves.
So far they have added a back up left back, Thiago and Jota.
If anything the gap is wider now than it was 3 months ago. Any fan trying to pretend it's not is kidding themselves.
How do you not understand it? Last season we had an incredible record after Bruno, but limped over the line to CL because we couldn't rotate. Now we have 2 high quality rotation options and still trying our hardest for one big target in Sancho. It's probably the most coherent strategy in a long time.
I've seen a few reports that have said 'huge fee's' and Mitten said the other day that he was offered to us a while back and we refused after a source at the club told him Cavani wanted "Huge wages and one of the stands naming after him", exaggeration of course but that's what the club told Mitten. So something has give there...
For what he'll cost, it's a pre-requisite that he delivers at a rate it's questionable he can deliver upon, which is why he's still on the market.
Cavani of 2018 on a free would've been one of the first signings made at the opening of a transfer window.
*say it quietly*
I can't wait to see him in a Utd shirt.
Yes, he's past his best and injury prone, but we're not having him as an Ibra style signing (aka our first choice striker).
He's 10000000 times the threat off the bench than ighalo, great UCL experience in a squad that's lacking that and a terrific example to developing players. Top signing. Shut up haters.
I can't wait to see him in a Utd shirt.
Yes, he's past his best and injury prone, but we're not having him as an Ibra style signing (aka our first choice striker).
He's 10000000 times the threat off the bench than ighalo, great UCL experience in a squad that's lacking that and a terrific example to developing players. Top signing. Shut up haters.
What cover do we have for LB? DM? RW? CB?
0 natural right-sided forwards, 1 natural left-footed LB and one natural DM in the whole squad, many CBs but most are useless or injury prone so we don't have proper reliability there either. But no, let's spend tens of millions on a declining and injury prone striker, who might not even fit well with the squad. Can't wait.
His injury record is the biggest concern but 1+1 contract softens the blow for me. I don't think he'll be particularly great but he will be better than Ighalo. You can't help but feel it smacks of desperation though, but if it improves the team then so be it.
Okay then, since you have the answers who should we have gotten instead?
Symbol of modern football. Analysing transfers to the ridiculous degree.
I'm excited to see Cavani play for Utd
Shoot me.
I'm excited to see Cavani play for Utd
Shoot me.
come February when Ighalo has left and we need to bring on a striker because we are losing, who exactly do we bring on?
a very reasonable assumption is the Greenwood, Rashford and Martial are already on the pitch?
We'll revisit this post in a few months.
So Cavani isn't joining to sit on the bench is he? So Martial is the one that suffers from this signing, or he's get's pushed back out to the left and Rashford get's dropped.
We don’t know what we’re paying him yet and I was comparing him to other leading forwards like you said.
Pereira is gone and no - my implication is we should have strengthened the positions with the highest priority? Is that clearer for you or do I need to simplify it further?
This could be an excellent short term signing. Provides a new option upfront.
yup.
Where’s this nugget come from? You think he’s joining to be a starter.
I imagine he's coming to rotate during the cups and maybe he would allow for some flexibility in formations.
Considering VDB hasn't started a PL game, I would say that Solksjaer stays loyal to his trusted players so I think Martial will stay first choice unless Cavani is simply too good not to start.
Seriously? Whatever we're paying him in wages would have been better spent on the Sancho transfer fee or for a LB or CB.
If we bought a RW instead, who knows who plays and who is on the bench. But we would have far better balance in the squad and it would be better management of resources if we looked for a stop gap in January rather than now, 2 days before the window ends and when we were supposed to look at first 11 signings.
Cavani is in no position to join any top club as anything other than “fighting for a position”. That much is obvious.
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They never felt it to begin with. They just double down on the company line every time it gets worse.
Yes, I confirm, he asked for more options, in several positions. People think I’m joking or plain wrong when I say this but Ed Buys Players Nobody Wants.
Now, when I’ve said this in the past, I met with posters sticking up for Ed and arguing that the manager has the final say. To me this is a classic case of the manager wanting one thing and being offered something very different and being faced with a choice of (say) Cavani or nobody. This is, broadly, the SHIT our managers have to put up with.
Anyone who says Ole should be sacked for signing this guy (instead of Sancho, Mbappe or any-fricking-body) should be committed.
A staggering 70 minutes in EL and EPL all together. Have no idea how people can't comprehend your argument about this. There was no reason to pay loan fee to Shangai, pay Ighalo wages and extend his loan only to take Cavani at the end of this transfer window when he was available just 30 days after we extended Ighalo's loan.
That is poor planning and pissing money away once again. Also, a perfectly valid criticism.
As for Cavani wish him all the best.
We're stocked in the middle so it's easy to break VDB in slowly but Cavani obviously still feel's he's elite, he isn't going to sit on the bench and be happy about it.
But which ones are good at it?
Martial is still adapting
Rashford is not good centrally
As yet have not seen Mason play there
Ole only plays Ighalo there in meaningless Cup games.
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