Donny van de Beek | van de Beek's father: "[Moving to United] a dream come true."

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Sancho is a 7/11 hybrid so also a 9 then ...

There we go, we can solve the English media's infatuation to replace Martial with a proper 9 by buying a 8/10 and a 7/11
A 7/11? Isn’t that a convenience store?
 
Oh maybe because I am Dutch, have ajax season ticket holders as friends and have watched their team a few times live. I have a clear opinion on him but I am too lazy for a writeup. Again, I will be proven right over time soon enough. Easy.

I have also watched Ajax a few times live if that's the criteria.

He is a good choice for backing up both Pogba and Bruno, and has age on his side to improve.
 
Ziyech is better than him and would actually walk into our first team, rather than squad player. I don't get the club at times.

Squad depth is all and good, but i want someone pushing the first team, rather than being comfortably worse. He is closer to Fred, McTom and Mata from his level than Pogba or Bruno
Aye let's get another inverted winger instead of a player that provides world class performances in 2 important positions which we are thread-bare in with only 1 player for each.
 
How good are his ball playing skills?

I see him as in the mould of Lampard, though not saying he is as good. His general technique is good, both feet too, but he is not an especially skilful player. And he is definitely not a midfield anchor.
 
Where would he play for united? His best quality is getting in the box. Don’t really see what he adds to united apart from squad depth. Won’t be a starter in this midfield.
We badly need squad depth. We're painfully thin in that regard. VdB would cover for both Fernandes and Pogba. It's a no brainer signing and hopefully we get him for a reasonable fee.
 
Oh maybe because I am Dutch, have ajax season ticket holders as friends and have watched their team a few times live. I have a clear opinion on him but I am too lazy for a writeup. Again, I will be proven right over time soon enough. Easy.

Note also how two other dutch posters in this thread have been lukewarm about his position in our team.
He's a lot better than our other options off the bench.
 
The money he'll cost might rule out Sancho though or are we loaded all of a sudden

He'll cost about 40m, we will make that money on midfield sales if Judge/Woody are somewhat competent on their job. Sancho will still come from the usual transfer budget.
 
I know his qualities, it was a rhetorical question for the PSV fan.

Zidane nixed his move to RM, not financial issues. Perez wanted him.

If he will be a stand in for Pogba then fair enough. Not sure what me being a PSV fan has to do with it. Hope he does well for Oranje.
 
Think some people are in for a shock if they think Van De Beek would join United to be a squad player
 
You are right, Ziyech is mostly a RW (who can play AM) and we have no one there. So he would be for the first team.
Pretty sure we already have other targets for that position
 
Weird transfer this one, we have Fred and Mctominay who can both come in and do a decent job in midfield so although he is clearly a better option VDB really isn't one of our priorities. Also weird that he chose us when he knows he won't be a definite starter. Anyway every additional quality to the squad is welcomed!
 
I think the reaction seems to be lukewarm as we haven't bought Sancho or a rw as of yet, if this was announced after I think there would be more of a positive vibe.
 
Good player but not really a playmaker. Technically good but isn't exceptional and is good off the ball. Will be nice squad depth, not a bad option
 
Top quality cover who can rotate across the line.
If he were a nailed on starter I wouldn't be too excited but its the quality cover we need
 
Weird transfer this one, we have Fred and Mctominay who can both come in and do a decent job in midfield so although he is clearly a better option VDB really isn't one of our priorities. Also weird that he chose us when he knows he won't be a definite starter. Anyway every additional quality to the squad is welcomed!
Mctominay is cover for Matic. Fred and Donny will be cover for Bruno and Pogba.
 
Oh maybe because I am Dutch, have ajax season ticket holders as friends and have watched their team a few times live. I have a clear opinion on him but I am too lazy for a writeup. Again, I will be proven right over time soon enough. Easy.

Note also how two other dutch posters in this thread have been lukewarm about his position in our team.
As someone who hasn't seen him much, I'm intrigued to see why you don't rate him much. Do you really not think he could come good?
 
If this goes through, I do hope we are still looking to add playmakers to our midfield, even if not in this window
 
Think some people are in for a shock if they think Van De Beek would join United to be a squad player
If Pogba gonna have weird performances again, then VdB should get solid run of games.

Same goes to De Gea if he'll start spitting instead of saving with Dean waiting for his chance.
 
Fans on here when they think Barca/City/Real are in for a player: Amazing, stunning, would never sign for us.
Same player but suggestion is we'll get him: meh.
 
Some of you lot deserve Pereira and Lingard.

How can you invest so much time in supporting United and remain so awfully wrong on all things player-related? It’s quite the exercise.

We’re an injury to Bruno and/or Pogba away from fighting for sixth. We need to buy better players to compete with them and/or replace them.
 
if he comes in, can we assume that it means a DIAMOND MIDFIELD...at that age, with his reputation, can't see him accepting a sub role

With AWB as the only option down the flank? We'd come 7th or 8th mate.

Would obviously mean no Sancho and One of Greenwood or Rashford sitting out too.

Diamond is a non starter for us. Our fullbacks just aren't good enough.
 
I think the reaction seems to be lukewarm as we haven't bought Sancho or a rw as of yet, if this was announced after I think there would be more of a positive vibe.
Not for me, mate. I just don't rate him. We need midfielders who are comfortable on the ball in tight spaces and when pressed, and Donny is another CM who lacks that.
 
Meh, in 5 years he will be 28, which effectively makes him 30. Very old player.
 
I think the only comparison between Ziyech and DVB is that they are both imo tier-3 players for their position.

Good squad depth but not starter level quality.

If he will be a stand in for Pogba then fair enough. Not sure what me being a PSV fan has to do about it. Hope he does well for Oranje.

PSV was to refer to you and nothing to do with your club allegiances.




To the United fans who are confused, this is how the midfield would look like

6 - Matic, McT, Fred
8 - Pogba, Fred, DvB
10 - Bruno, DvB, Pogba

Ideally, at the end of 2020/21, we sell McT and Matic leaves and we can win the Camivanga sweepstakes.
 
Good player but not really a playmaker. Technically good but isn't exceptional and is good off the ball. Will be nice squad depth, not a bad option

That sums it op really. Didn’t mean to talk him down or anything. Definitely not a ‘6’.
 
if he comes in, can we assume that it means a DIAMOND MIDFIELD...at that age, with his reputation, can't see him accepting a sub role
No we won’t be playing diamond. To play diamond you need attacking productive full backs. We absolutely don’t have that. Especially not with AWB.

De Beek can play numerous positions. He will get all the minutes Lingard, Pereria and mata would have got. Thats a lot of minutes.
 
I see him as in the mould of Lampard, though not saying he is as good. His general technique is good, both feet too, but he is not an especially skilful player. And he is definitely not a midfield anchor.
When I mean skills, I don't really mean flair. I mean his passing, vision, keeping the ball under pressure etc.
 
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