You can't quietly hope the fanatics stop being crazy. And ignore their crimes and not punish them because, they "will get mad". They are already nuts. They stormed the capital and tried to get millions of votes thrown out. They aren't going anywhere. So the crimes that can be proven and prosecuted need to move forward who cares if they get mad about it. What are they going to do storm the Capital again?
Donald Trump - GUILTY!
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It's a question of timing, in my opinion. Trump isn't going anywhere either, proceed with the elections, then deal with him.
The MAGA cultists are so entrenched that they already view the trial as an attempt to silence him before it even gets to the ballots. If he loses, they'll automatically see it as the "Deep State finishing the job".
No one expected them to storm the Capitol, yet they did. Who knows what they could be up to this time?
Nothing like J6 or worse will happen. The leadership who led J6 are either behind bars, still being pursued by authorities, or recently out of prison / serving their probation. The collective will of MAGA is basically non-existent to foment another J6.
I just finished an audible (audio book) bbc radio play collection including 1984, the Time Machine, we, the trial, the chysalids
Was a dystopian collection.
I’m not a yank but what is happening there is fully in that genre.
It is happening in front of us!!
Was a dystopian collection.
I’m not a yank but what is happening there is fully in that genre.
It is happening in front of us!!
If they prosecuted him after he was President it would be the deep state, if they prosecuted him in a Biden 2nd term it would be the vengeance of the deep state. There is no reality that cannot be reversed by these people. Prosecute him, jail him, throw away the key.
Alright.
I'm not well versed enough in the US politics and its societal dynamics to formulate any kind of educated judgment, just voicing my opinion from what I perceive as an outsider.
I truly get what you're saying, but still would have preferred to throw away the key after the elections as I don't think that he will be elected.
In my opinion, it doesn't have the same impact. Just my two cents.
Not only the leaders
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/...ys-will-free-us-capitol-rioters-if-re-elected
Which is crazy the amount of resources spent to identify them, going to pick them up, charge them, attorneys, judges, building the cases, etc... They really went overboard to set an example for this to not happen again
Probably most of the 500 that had been sentenced will not see jail or a few days. But is in their records and they will not try anything again and they will warn the ones that are likeminded. And the few that knows how to read and shouts "Murica", go camo dressed and armed to Walmart, are truly cowards that will try nothing, zilch, nada
Sentencing guidelines more often than not mandated some incarceration, 22 years being the most severe. Federal time is no joke.
Not bad. I don't know where I read it that the average sentencing is 60 days though. Still in your records and maybe problems to get jobs? Banking? I don't know the nuisances to be honest
You're correct, a conviction doesn't help out with basic life shit going forward.
I’m still 
at all the BS threats and pearl clutching on Twitter. Even that idiot Musk is joining in.
at all the BS threats and pearl clutching on Twitter. Even that idiot Musk is joining in. It's so petty for them to disparage Stormy Daniels as a sex worker. Their messiah paid her to help him cheat on his pregnant wife! They ignore that in painting trump as a victim in a witch-hunt. There is a reason Melania has been nowhere near the courtrooms so far. How crazy is that not to show at any of your husbands trials?
Not sure if this has been posted, and I’m sure it’s to nobody’s surprise, but Russia’s not happy:
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/31/trump-verdict-putin-orban-reaction
Tbf they would know what that looks like
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/31/trump-verdict-putin-orban-reaction
Tbf they would know what that looks like
People don't seem to understand the magnitude of what is to come if he's re-elected. This guy is a moron but the poster below nailed it. Biden is our biggest downfall and he's not a strong enough candidate to put up a fight. He's the reason why we'll have trump as president once more.
I hear you and you're spot on. The whole immigration fiasco is being handled so terribly and it's going to cost him a lot of voters. It's funny how all the immigrants here have an issue with others trying to get a better life for their families. The entire situation is being handled so irresponsibly. People are sleeping on the streets of New York because they have nowhere to go. I work a block away from the Roosevelt and I see the hopelessness on a daily basis. There should have been a proper system in place that allows these immigrants to feel like human beings and not wander the streets. Criminals are mixed in with innocent families and it's unsafe for everyone. Biden is just so weak and after all this, that moron will still win by a landslide.
You think Trump will win by a landslide? Not a chance in hell that happens.
None of which happend when they actually faced off 4 years ago and Biden got more votes than anyone in history.
Biden could have made more impact with his speech yesterday, where he called out Trump for his tantrums over the verdict. He seemed hesitant and was stumbling over his words at times. Sigh.
I laughed out loud for this one. I wonder whether, upon seeing his own video,
he'd be able to spot the wee bit of irony.
Saw one "More MAGA than ever!" post and another hawking Trump shirts in my FB feed yesterday. These people are beyond lost.
Alex Garland's Civil War beginning to look more like a documentary.
Yes, Trumps big hit, was his 'Fake News and bye-passing the regular press via social media. Convinced millions in the US (and indeed around the world) that the "only truth is your truth' (*).
Scholars will pick over the impact of Trump for years to come.
*Might add that Boys Own lyrics from No Matter What..... "what we believe is true" could also be held responsible for this
It would make Biden look senile as he can't pardon state based stuff, only federal convictions.
At what point did the Daily Mail become Fox News on steroids? I knew they were out there with Trump views but they have certainly kicked it up a notch and become extremely Pro Trump.
Yes, Trumps big hit, was his 'Fake News and bye-passing the regular press via social media. Convinced millions in the US (and indeed around the world) that the "only truth is your truth' (*).
Scholars will pick over the impact of Trump for years to come.
*Might add that Boys Own lyrics from No Matter What..... "what we believe is true" could also be held responsible for this
America is still very much a misogynistic country. It is not a coincidence that many of the trades that are most commonly berated and delegitimized, like waitressing, nursing, teaching, being a stay-at-home-parent, etc, are historically overwhelmingly female.
Sex work is no different. Those women will be berated all day long but the men who solicit sex workers to cheat on their wives are given a pass.
Nothing to see here, just 2 completely normal people.
Holy fecking shit.
That's the same guy from the tweet above who talked about us finding a way to love each other etc.
Presumably they’ll get arrested for threatening people.
“Love thy neighbor, unless thy neighbor votes to convict the messiah of a felony he clearly committed”
Matthew 22:39
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Even if he does get locked up, he'll scrape his way out Andy Dufraisne style. The orange giblet will not be deterred.
No way he gets jail time given it is an E grade felony and no violence was involved. I'd guess a fine and community service, especially as the judge seems well aware of the politics of imprisoning Trump and the impact on those having to do so, not to mention needing protection from the secret service.